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Stick is the non-fire of Ages.

Hi guys! I returned a few days ago but decided to type one of these up because it seems like the community has changed a lot since I was last here! I was originally on the Shard in 2015. I used to go by LarkoftheRiver. Anyway. I'm Sarah -- you can call me that, Kestrel, or Kes. I will also respond to Lark, River, or Riv. Really it doesn't matter too much. I'm a junior in college, and I'm majoring in Natural Resource Management with a concentration on wildlife biology. I'm outside a lot; I'm a licensed falconer in addition to having volunteered at four rehab and education centers for wildlife. I've worked around most native Texas birds of prey, and am slowly starting to work around mammals. In addition to that I am also a member of my college's polo club. Which is basically soccer on a horse. It's fun! In my freetime I'm also a freelance artist, and an active member of several art roleplaying groups on deviantart. I sometimes animate as well, and have had work featured in film festivals around the United States. I mostly focus on animals. For Sanderson related stuff: my favorite book is Mistborn (specifically AoL era), and my overall fav character is Kelsier. I've read most of the released Cosmere novels (still need to finish Oathbringer). To my knowledge at least. When I got my falconry permit, I fell out of reading for two years, so I'm sure some other Cosmere stuff was released in that time. I still need to read the short stories as well. In any case, I look forward to getting back in this community and getting to know you guys better!

Me: study for your math final tomorrow Also me: gotta sketch

IMPORTANT: Hi! If you’re hoping to join or rejoin us, please do so in our current thread! Well, everyone knows I can't go a day without creating a roleplay. This one stems from random cremposting on a status update (take that, Firerust), wherein I said something vaguely mysterious, Lunamor said it sounded like a prophecy and wrote the first line, and I, er, went crazy writing a prophecy? So. Yeah. (I hope this doesn't flop, I had fun making it all ) The Augury: As you may have guessed, the tentative plan for this RP is that it will have ten parts or 'verses', each named after and corresponding to a verse in the Augury - Ten of the Void, Hate's Creation, Fight the Rise, Oblivion, Storm's Break, Time Will Out, Until You Betray, All That Shatters, Watch Them Fall, and Powers Reviled (not necessarily in that order, names subject to change). I do have plans, but there's plenty of room for improvisation...and both could have really cool implications. Anyway, rules are as normal for roleplays on here, please do ask me if you have any questions! Both roleplay and chat will take place on this thread (until a new one is started), so please put all non-RP in quote boxes. WORLDBUILDING: Preferred character profile: I'll happily give more information on almost anything worldbuilding-wise if you ask, though I can't give away much in the terms of plot. HAVE FUN! Characters:

"What is the most important title a book can have?" Hoid asked the Sleepless and the kandra. "Hmm," RePaan tried to surmise, "a title where the words are equivalent to the First Oath?" "The True Name of Adonalsium?" the Sleepless wondered. "No," Hoid said, shaking his head. "That question itself is the most important title a book can have. It refers to what would be the most important title, so it must itself be that title. Don't you see? It's like the word 'heterological,' or the group of all groups that don't belong to themselves, or a sentence that claims to be a lie. These are the paradoxes upon which the cosmere is built up and broken down, you understand. These are the noodles and broth on which I live."

Here's a little something I wrote to explore Dalinar's first attempts Summary (Possible Oathbringer Spoilers): (Open this spoiler to see fic):

I was thinking that knowing everyone's drafting process might help me when reading and providing feedback. Mine's pretty straight forward but overly time consuming. 1. Outline Draft - Extensive bullet point outline listing every important story and character scene in the story. 2. Rough Draft - Using 1.0 as a loose guideline, pants out about 100k words in as little time as possible even though you should be taking your time. Get further and further away from the outline until the entire draft is deus ex machina and plot devices to fill in the holes you dug yourself into. --- Throw 2.0 into a trash folder and never look at it again. 3. Character and Structure Draft (this is the one I'm submitting) - Rewrite the book from the beginning but try to make it halfway readable this time. Now having done it completely wrong, return to a revised outline. Still hate it but acknowledge the fact that it is significantly better than 2.0 so you might as well keep going. 4. Five Senses Draft - Add in all the details you were too lazy to put in 3.0. Turn excess tell into show. 5. Polish - Make the words all pretty and such. Dialogue actually needs dialogue tags. Adverbs are not always your friend. Sprinkle in some foreshadowing so it looks like you knew what you were doing from the beginning. What's yours?

You'll get there. Keep going!!

Tom knelt down and poured the serum down her throat. Then he jumped up and took a few steps backwards. The serum awoke. First, it thought, burns. A red glow began to emanate from within Heather's fallen form. Slowly but surely, her burns began to heal, flesh spreading together. Oh! it thought, as it felt something oppose it. What's this? Gently but firmly, it pushed on the whatever-it-was that was resisting it. The charred skin began to evaporate in trails of smoke as the healing accelerated. Next, it thought, loss. It touched Heather's soul with a comforting embrace, healing her grief and putting her mind to rest. She would still miss those she had lost, but acceptance would put her soul at peace. Finally, it thought, guilt. Cautiously, the serum opened up the memories of failure and confronted the poor soul. This part was outside of its control- it could try to provide assistance, but the ultimate result was up to the patient's subconscious. They would either accept the responsibility and the guilt, in which case the serum would soothe the pain away; or they would reject it, and he would be forced to leave it unhealed. At last, after each memory had been confronted, the serum released her mind. She had been rather disappointing, to be honest, rejecting far more mistakes than she accepted, but in other areas she had healed wonderfully. The serum didn't have a mouth, but if it did, it would have smiled in satisfaction.

Rayse is The Villain of Ages

PREACH IT!!!

Dalinar is the Unity of Ages Lift is the Awesomeness of Ages Sadeas is the Eel of Ages

Shallan is the Illustrator of Ages. Kaladin is the Sadness of Ages. Adolin is the Handsome of Ages. Ruin was the Ruin of Ages. Hoid is the Mystery of Ages.

How about the Scadrian Planetarium, a place where people can try their best screwing with a planet's astronomy, pushing it around and stuff like that. If you succeed harming only the southern cultures, you get a plush TenSoon! If you mess it up, you get punched by someone dressed as Kelsier.

“… but one.” Attayl saw the shadow over Nerin’s eyes when she obviously remembered, and she looked down, stared at the cakes herself. But one. They all had their one, she guessed. The one person that overpowered you, that overstepped borders, that was in control. She swallowed, grabbed another cake and took a bite herself. Nerin’s mother had been a whore, just like her own. 1st Octant, whereas hers had worked in the 7th. Nerin was who she could have ended up, had she spoken about her alomancy, had she been brave enough to take control over her life. It was like a mirror, they were two sides of one coin. “I think that’s a good idea.” She replied and got to her feet. Go back to the parlor. See if Brillin had woken up, try to find out where Lance had gone. See if they could get some information about the harbor. John, that crazy one who claimed to be from a different world. Probably a drug addicted of some sorts. She took another cake, enjoyed the sweet taste. Brillin. She would have to talk to him, later. She looked at Nerin sitting there at the table. It was the first time, she had opened up, she had really talked to her. Attayl looked outside, slowly “Thank you.” She gently squeezed her hand again. There were no other words necessary. Nerin knew, that she understood. Attayl carefully covered the remaining cakes, folded a napkin in a form that indicated a thank you and they walked back to the parlor. “If you ever need to get out of everything again – Jo now knows your face. And nobody there will ask a question.” They walked through the streets in silence and Attayl decided on a slightly longer way back, which would give her the opportunity to walk over the marketplace. There was a shop that sold tea and maybe a good cup of tea would help Nerin as well. She walked by the little store, knew what she wanted and where the owner usually placed it. Without really looking she grabbed to packages. A good herbal tea for Nerin and a one that helped to soothe you stomach for Brillin. Judging his earlier drunkenness, he would need it. She never changed their speed, but made sure to take some turns, so that they would be out of reach before the owner realized what was gone. He was easy to steal from, but then most thieves weren’t interested in tea. Grinning slightly she handed the package to Nerin once they’d stepped into the parlor. “It’s one of my favourites. You should give it a try.” @ZincAboutIt

"You want me to play notes and rhythms and dynamics? What do you think I am, a musician?" -my friend, while trying to practice audition music

Honestly the Big Bad of the Cosmere is probably Bavadin.

What have you read so far? Also Hello and welcome

Obviously, that death rattle refers to this thread.

Happy birthday Rebecca!!! *hands a cake*

Star smiled. Same personality as Shadow, for sure. "I'm so sorry - you must feel like you've been thrown into all of this, don't you? We'll try to help you out, I promise."

Birds have a muscle attached to every feather of their body. They can fluff their feathers to trap in heat or let cool air flow through. Owls are not the only birds that can turn their heads almost all the way around. In fact, most, if not all, raptors can. Owls do not have muscles in their eyes. Their eyes are so big in their skull that there's no room for muscle, not to mention they are also shaped more like cones, not spheres. So they cannot move their pupils, and have to turn their heads to see. If your eyes were the size of an owl's, they'd be the size of a softball in your skull. Owls also do not have symmetrical ears. They have one higher than the other. This gives them a great range of hearing; they can hear both side to side, and up and down and pinpoint exactly where the sound comes from. Barn owls have the best hearing out of any owl and can hear a human heartbeat from ten feet away. They can also hunt in total darkness.

So I just finished the first draft of my 7th novel and am starting on my 8th. However, I've never sent a full novel through this forum, so I'm not 100% sure how that will influence my process for future novels. The one I started sending through is shelved for now, but I think I will eventually come back to it. I also have one novel that I've started but not finished. My process evolved a little with each novel, but 4 and 6 more or less followed the same process, and I've been offered contracts from small publishers for those two, so I think I'm getting closer to a process that works. My long term goal is to get an agent and be published by a larger publisher. Here is my process: 1. Start making up bits and pieces of the story while I'm driving or walking. 2. Start writing the first draft. Here, I write as much as I can as quickly as I can. If the plot comes to me quicker than I can write the book, then I make a very rough outline of what I know. Sometimes I follow that outline, sometimes I don't. Usually it's a fluid thing that changes as I get to know the characters better. Sometimes I doesn't exist much at all. Novel 4 had a fairly detailed outline during this stage that I stuck to. 6 had some outlining, but I really didn't follow much of it. The one I just finished had almost no outlining (but it was middle grade, so it was a lot shorter than my YA and adult manuscripts). This phase usually takes between four and eight weeks, but the end product can be a big mess. 3. After letting the draft rest for a week or two, I print it out and read it. I mark it up with colored pens. This involves making notes like I would if I were critiquing someone else's story, crossing out pages of text and rewriting them between the lines and in the margins, and sometimes doodling maps, rooms, weapons or characters. I also make a chapter by chapter outline of the story as I read. When I'm done, I write a letter of overall comments I had on the story like I would if I were beta reading someone else's novel, and then I make a list of revisions I need to make. (Note: With novel #5, I did not do my usual step 3. Instead, I'd edit a couple chapters, submit them to this group, edit them more, clean up the next ones, send those and so forth. I got very bogged down and overwhelmed with all the feedback and ended up setting that book aside. 4. After letting it rest for about a week I go through and make all the necessary revisions, rewrites, edits, and additions in the computer. I don't retype the whole thing. I just save as a new file name. 5. I get feedback. This is the part that varies. Sometimes at this stage I send the whole book out to beta readers (though some people might call them alpha readers) and I don't allow myself to look at the ms while they are reading it. Other times I've worked with a cp, swapping a set amount of pages each week. If someone is reading the whole book, then I don't look at the manuscript at all while they read. At some stage, I need to let it rest for at least a month or two. Unless I am working with a CP, then happens here. 6. I read and annotate my feedback before making a list of revisions to make. 7. I make the revisions on my list. 8. At this point, if I am confident with the content, I let it rest for a couple weeks then put the draft on my kindle, make the font really big, and read it out loud, highlighting errors and commenting on sentence level things. As soon as I finish, I make my changes in the document. If I am not confident with the content, I repeat 6 and 7 until I am, and then I do the editing phase. With novel #4, went through 6 and 7 three times. With novel #6, which was a sequel to my published novel, I only had one round of feedback, though I did have a lot of false starts with that book. I found I couldn't really finish the first draft until book 1 had gotten through two rounds of editing with my publisher and was out with their copy editor. Now, I find I can go from a first draft to a polished manuscript in a year. However, it took me almost ten years to do that with Power Surge, which was the first novel I started with any seriousness and the second I finished. I'd start it, ramble off into plots that made no sense, back track, and sometimes leave it alone for years at a time. I did have quite a few false starts for the sequel, which was novel #, but with one exception, those false starts were only ever a couple chapters long. I found I couldn't really dive into it until Power Surge was with it's publisher's copy editor.

At this point I'll do anything. I have an almost perfect 100 right now. This final is worth 40% of my grade. If I mess it up and it drops my grade to a B I will revolt.

Or just increase their strength to the point where the gravity field could not hurt them too much.

I have decided to join. I shall once again be Jeeves

So something occurred to me earlier, and this seems to be close enough to topic to be appropriate. This is more what-if than a fully fledged theory so stay with me. What if the conflict with Harmony being mostly unable to act has created such a strong dichotomy within him that he's suffered a personality split, where his Ruin side had adapted Trell as a personality based on Trelagism which he learned as a Keeper, meaning Preservation would take up Nalt as a personality as well. Harmony, sitting right in between still, could be completely unaware of this, explaining why he has been largely unreachable, and the presence of a new unknown god metal. I suspect that metal may be a new or somehow disguised form of Atium aka the Lost Metal. Just imagine Tyler Durden with a Shard I haven't completely thought it through, I just wanted to get it down before I stored it back on my copper mind Just wanted to add that original Trelagism was entirely based on a similar duality between two brothers.

Welcome

Thanks to @kais, @shatteredsmooth, and @industrialistDragon! I think this might be part of what I am missing. The characters were all scattered, and they came together. Some of them grew and changed, and maybe a few threads resolved, like the E I S trio is back together and each member is a little evolved, but I feel like those were more subplots for individual POVs and not an arc for the whole book. Great comments. Thanks for pointing this out. I think I really need to figure out which thread I want to focus on more and bump that up so this book doesn't feel too "sidequesty" I think this will actually be my main plot thread going forward, so I need to add a lot more about this. There was a lot in the original draft of the first book on this which also got cut. I thought I could place it in book 2 but looks like I need to bring it forward a lot. Hmm...that might be a better way to do this, especially if I bump up the threat from the LC more. That could also work, if the main cast runs away from what they've done in the shard room, but the LC seeks them out, pursued by the new critter. Good point. I'm still debating the POV split between Ri, Re, and O, so I'll have to play with this. Definitely. This was more meant that the twins had felt a connection to the Eff, especially since the gene pool of their species is so small. I think this may be some idiot plotting from me, trying to force the situation I want in the next book. I'll take a look at this and see if I can make it smoother. Yeah, I really really like his thread, but as you said, this may be something that needs to turn into the epigraphs for the whole book to describe his journey in the background, and then put all his POVs into a novella about restarting the Society. I'll have to mull this over. You are, in fact, incredibly helpful, @shatteredsmooth!

Lol, I like your synopsis, very amusing I would be something like this. 1. Have idea, flesh out idea possibly writing sample scenes between characters, open a Notes file and write character outlines/sketches. 2. Outline the plot to somewhere around 50-75% of the story, possibly have an end in mind, possibly not. Probably develop 10 to 20 pages of notes pre-writing. 3. Start writing from the beginning. Write about 30% then start submitting to RE. Stop writing, go back to the beginning and revise with RE comments. 4. November comes around: start Nanowrimo, write 50-70k words. This might finish the first draft, it might not. 5. Continue writing until first draft is finished, target 500 words a day, finished first draft around Spring time. 6. First draft is finished. Edit for everything, because life's too short, then resubmit second draft to RE (see my latest post!!) I don't have your Stage 2, I don't have that kind of time. I would say I was 1 > 3 > 5 in terms of your level of draft. I don't mean that to sound pompous, I just spend more time on the first draft, but I think it's worth spending that time when you're in the story to raise the quality of the writing, not settle. I would suggest that will come with experience and you will find that 2 and 3 start to merge as you get more words under your belt, and your skills increase. How many novels have you finished?

Voidus continued to smile as he saw Mac begin panicking. It was a risk certainly, but they'd already managed to escape from HR once tonight, doing so a second time while already prepared for it should be manageable. "Just a moment." He said towards Lita, still outwardly calm. Inwardly he was on alert, waiting for the faintest signs of Alleytravel or other kinds of spatial warping that would allow HR entrance to this place. He stilled his breath altogether, along with his heartbeat. They were unnecessary distractions, he needed to catch this as soon as possible. There. As soon as he noticed it he completed the warping of the Alleys that he'd started before, connecting them to a point a little deeper in the Alleys. He took everyone one step further in, watching their surroundings shift to a simple gray cobblestone walled alley. "That should deal with anyone who felt a need to follow us." Voidus said. "That department can deal with any unauthorized travelers, and it might keep them distracted for a bit if we're lucky." He was careful this time to avoid mentioning the departments name. Summoning them here again would somewhat defeat the point, even if what he'd done was technically acceptable within current policy. "We'll be going to the Vortex as they called it." He said, answering Lita's question. "But we should have a moment to breathe for now, a little time before the next job." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurelai mirrored Mac's look of panic, she hadn't had a personal encounter with the department that Voidus had summoned, not since she'd first been inducted into the DA. But that one time had been enough, along with every whispered conversation she'd ever heard about them. The department that even other denizens of the DA didn't speak of directly. HR. She began planning a path through the Alleys to escape, but she also knew that running away from this meeting was likely to be just as suicidal as waiting for them to arrive. Possibly more given the glances that had been thrown her way. She was still waiting to find out exactly what she'd done wrong, but fleeing didn't seem like a good way to find out. Suddenly she felt the Alleys folding around them, and a small but insistent push in the small of her back forced her forwards a step into the new Alley. Not one she recognized on sight but many of them did look the same after all. She stood up straight again, correct the balance that had been broken during that awkward step in between, and trying to catch her breath at the same time. She hadn't even noticed that she'd been holding it but the sudden push had caused her to gasp in an intake of air, almost triggering a coughing fit. "We'll be going to the Vortex as they called it." Voidus said, ignoring the catastrophe that he'd almost caused. "But we should have a moment to breathe for now, a little time before the next job." Laurelai felt her hand twitch again, she felt an urgent need to send a message to Lita, try to get her read on this situation. And how likely it was that she was about to be murdered. But she was in front of the men who'd probably invented Alleycant, she wouldn't be able to disguise it from them no matter how she tried.

You can't see steel lines in atium shadows, though.

I just searched through the site and couldn’t find any other threads talking about this game, so I don’t know how many people even know about it. So if you don’t know about it, a couple years ago Brandon mentioned that they were developing a board game based on and around the war on the Shattered Plains. He even gave out a bunch of promotional Szeth cards/standees with some cryptic game stats on the back alongside the release of Words of Radiance. Supposedly the game was supposed to go to kickstarter sometime in 2018, but that got bumped back. Then today, this troubling news was posted on boardgamegeek.com: I went ahead and sent an email to [email protected] to ask about this. We’ll see what they say. To anyone else interested in this game, I’d encourage you to send them a polite email as well- who knows, maybe if we show them enough support they might revive the game!

Remember, fullborns can tap and compound speed, so a fight between a fullborn and anyone would look somthing like this:

Yeah, I think this is the one I was remembering.

Don't know how long this has been up on Brandon's site; I just saw it today. The convention is longer, but Brandon will only be doing events on Friday, it appears. Here's a copy of his schedule: Anyone able to record? Obviously, the signing would be the most important, but I can imagine some interesting tidbits coming out of his 4:30 panel, as well, if something reminds him of a planned or unpublished story.

It depends on how it’s used. Severe amnesia is often used as a crutch to get around having a deep character with a well thought out background. Anyone who attempts to use it in that way I will heavily encourage to add more depth to their character.

I guess we're getting a Cosmere Themes Spotify list now, huh?

Overall: I was very confused. I agree with the others that this is a much better leading chapter and it makes me wonder why the prologue/chapter 1 is first. This is so similar it causes confusion, and if the prologue information is important later, would it be better placed closer to where it becomes vital? As I go: I am very confused by this opening. Wasn't the hydra dead? Where's the crossbow? Is this even the same book? I have tech whiplash. What happened to the potions? Has there been a major time-jump? I can't tell what the first chapter has to do with literally anything in this chapter. I'm so confused. What is going on? Why do I care about enhancement batteries when I was reading about channel potions just a couple page ago? What does this R-person look like? Does she have skin? Hair? Eyes? Clothing besides glasses and gloves? Why do I care about her? She doesn't seem anything like the person I was introduced to in the first chapter, and I don't care for her very much right now, since the only emotion she has shown is mild contempt for people who appear to be doing nothing wrong. I think I'm going to imagine her as a nude talking hamster with gloves and high-tech sunglasses from now on. I will always care about talking ham-hams. I am unclear why professors on a dig would be wearing inappropriate clothing, but I have now decided they are chinchillas, since I lack any other description to tell me otherwise. Poor things, they really can't handle the heat, but they look so adorable in their button-up shirts. Also I am unclear why the interns seem to be doing the important digging. Maybe they're crows, and very smart. I am lacking so much description, so much context. Is it daytime? Nighttime? I don't remember. Why only one guard? This knight's description feels like it was lifted verbatim from the first chapter and it is confusing me. Is this a first chapter rewrite? What is going on? The knight is described better and in more detail than any of the other characters so far. Is he the protagonist? He's apparently the only human so far and he really shouldn't be picking on ham-hams like that. Multiple pages in and she's finally put on a shirt. I've decided her fur color must be butterscotch, because it's my favorite, and would look good with the green. I still don't understand why they're using Greek gods in modern vernacular epithets. It sounds stilted and awkward to me and drops me out of the story whenever they do. And I'm afraid I'm not terribly interested in this fight. I'm unclear why they're having it, and I never got invested in R to care about danger to her. I don't understand why the knight is there -- if it's to duel, then why didn't he just say so? This seems like a world where dueling would be an accepted thing. If he came to talk to R's charges, why is he dressed like a recognizable outlaw and sneaking around? Wouldn't it make more sense to just dress in regular clothes and walk up to the dig like a normal person would? The same goes for simply talking R-the-guard-ham-ham. Is there a reason for them to be fighting at all? I know more about R's sword and the knight's multiple weapons than I do about her. Are the weapons characters? Why is the knight talking to R as if she were in charge of anything? She wouldn't be the ones calling the shots as a mere guard, famous or not (is she famous or just in possession of a nickname? I can't tell). I'm afraid I have no idea what the knight's plan is and why he's hiring a ham-ham to go scare some people somewhere maybe? Ham-hams are inherently adorable. This is a more interesting world and starting scenario than the first chapter, and I would be more likely to keep reading this one than I would have on the first one. This has good bones, but I just have no idea what's going on.

Ohhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeaaaahhhhh. Keep Cukoo is the good life!!

Pretty much. The Pattern is itself the reason they were Ta'Veren in the first point. To quote Loial, "And sometimes the Wheel bends a life-thread, or several threads, in such a way that all the surrounding threads are forced to swirl around it, and those force other threads, and those still others, and on and on. That first bending to make the Web, that is ta'veren, and there is nothing you can do to change it, not until the Pattern itself changes. The Web - ta'maral'ailen, it's called - can last for weeks, or for years. It can take in a town, or even the whole Pattern. Artur Hawkwing was ta'veren. So was Lews Therin Kinslayer, for that matter, I suppose" (Loial to Rand, The Eye of the World, Chapter 36). [Sourced from library.tarvalon.net]. Robert Jordan also stated that people are not born Ta'Veren [Robert Jordan's Blog, Friday, January 20th, 2006]. So if the Pattern is the force making people Ta'Veren, as a method of 'course correction', then it also makes sense that they would no longer be Ta'Veren when that course is corrected.

This was a different person then Anna from Frozen. Anna was happy, as her trap had succeeded and she was now queen.

BoS didn’t miss them. She just wanted to watch the world burn. (She also thought that TLT was just random silliness. That’s how she wanted it to be)

With the joyous energy of being returned to his normal self. But's potion had worked perfectly!

Tom was silent for a long moment. Finally, he spoke. "I used to care," he said. "Back then, it was all selfishness and hurting others." He looked down. "I removed that. I found Calamity, killed him, and took the Key." He looked up at the stars again, a dead look in his eyes. "But it was too late for my soul." He turned to Star. "I keep her around because I thought -just maybe- she could make me care again."

I kind of think that Harmony keeps both Kelsier and Marsh around as free agents who represent the different side of him Ruin and Preservation. Marsh is kept around for destroying threats and Kelsier to help others survive. Harmony himself is limited and besides he is humble enough to know that he is fallible so having a couple of people around who know you and can tell you if they think they are messing up is just a good idea. Also because Sazed must keep the balance between the two shards it occurs to me that he might be using each of them to figure out what the shards want to do so that he can counter and so that each of them could take up each shard should he die.

Duralumin+Soothing+Rioting= Temporarily stunned F-Steel puts TLR right behind Szeth Compounded Pewter pops his head like a grape, Shardplate and all (Stormlight won't heal that) No Atium needed. You're going to have to do a lot more than negate Atium to have any chance whatsoever against a Fullborn

Lopen @Straw unvote yourself now!!! There is a random death every cycle after someone gets lynched!! I've just gone through entire thread and it's absolutely a pattern!!