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  1. No. This is a meme thread. The memes must stay alive. So here are a bunch more of them I made in a burst of creative inspiration last night. I admit, I'm liking this new trending meme format (Stormlight): Basically Mistborn 1: How bout something a little sad (Oathbringer): Lopen is better than his fellow Radiants (Oathbringer): I haven't made Elantris memes yet, so here's one (technically not a canon conversation, but spoilers anyway): How about another Elantris meme (you can tell I'm enjoying this format): I can't help making Oathbringer memes: More Oathbringer crap: Here's a Words of Radiance one (poor highprincey boi): And how about one about us? I bring these to you now because of what I got myself into last night. Sponsored by (but not really sponsored by) Mematic.
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  2. I’ve been ghosting this forum for a while, but this thread seemed momentous enough to be warrant commenting upon publicly. I’ll preface my remarks by saying that one of my life philosophies is to avoid shooting down harmless ideas/activities if enough people are excited about them. I think this is a viable proposal. We have several technologically competent people among us, which is great. (Someone's got to keep an eye on Voidus to stop him from using a .au ccTLD, right?) If we chose to do this, I have confidence that a decent product could be created and maintained. So, since I believe this can be done, the million-dollar question becomes should it be done? The two main supporting arguments I’ve seen mentioned so far are that a new website would provide additional space and customizability. Others have mentioned additional features that they think would be beneficial, all of which I think are interesting ideas. Other pros include: Independence. The site could be freed from the Shard’s restrictions (posting and spoiler rules, for example), Sanderson focus, hierarchy (we could appoint our own mods), and limitations on growth (as presently only Sharders can participate in the Alleyverse). Additionally, as the site would exclusively focus on the RP, the distractions of the Shard would be hidden. Increased participation: For a brief period, during our initial ‘we’ve got a website!!!!!’ public celebration phase, I expect we’ll see a modest increase in participation as people’s curiosities are piqued. A similar phenomenon occurs during era changes. Conversely, there are cons are well: Cost: Beyond money, running a website is also a significant time commitment. Participation barrier: Our potential lack of visibility (if we can’t advertise in intro threads and our threads stop showing up on the Recent sidebars) and requirement that another account be created may discourage people from joining. Additionally, those people who are involved in multiple RPs, and traditionally sift through all of their messages and notifications at once, may find it inconvenient to have to log into a separate account to see Alleyverse ones. Furthermore, once we’re out of sight, if we become inactive, it is less likely that enough people will notice us and attempt to revive the community. Small guild discouragement. Many small guilds start out in PMs. If we don’t have them, we will have to either encourage people to create guilds publicly or give everyone who asks a subforum and rank to get started in, even if they, for example, only have two members. Given the amount of start-up failures, that could get out of hand quickly. Established guilds could operate as usual, but it would be hard to make new ones. On this subject, the decisions about who gets a subforum, who gets ranks, and who is a guild’s leader (leadership challenges happen) are going to be contentious. When I was jotting down ideas about what having a website would mean for the RP, a few general implications jumped out. These aren’t pros or cons per se, more like general things to consider. Potential attitude shift: The Shard has two main ways of regulating behaviour. Firstly, we have an upvote system in place to encourage quality posting. Frankly, I’m not sure how effective it is now that you can’t downvote someone, so I don’t mind if the new site doesn’t have one. The more important thing is the threat of consequences. The reporting system is in place to give people a way to complain about activity, and the mods are there to administer punishment if there’s a problem. On the new site, that threat would be lesser. Instead of risking banishment from the entire Shard, you only risk being blocked from the Alleyverse RP. It could embolden people to be cockier. Identity confusion: The Shard is very strict about its ‘one account per person’ rule. The admins have the ability to check users’ locations to ensure honesty. If the new site didn’t have that, people could be tempted to make multiple accounts. Beyond intentional mischief, confusion could be accidentally created if people do not make their Shard and Alleyverse usernames match. Identity theft could then occur. To avoid this, I would like some form of user verification process and restrictions on name changes. Administration changes: Currently, our mini-mod team is very limited in what it can do. They can’t look in PMs, look at personal information, or get report notifications. Voidus has more capabilities, and I trust him to use them with discretion. But he’s only one man, and he lives in a poison-filled desert. If the site were set up so that he’s the sole administrator, we risk stagnation the next time he is hospitalized by a spider bite. If we gave increased authority to the mini-mods to run the site, we increase the amount of responsibilities they have. It’s a delicate balance to strike, one that’s important to get right because the buck would stop at them, unless other members of the Shard admin team sign on to this venture. Altered relationship with the Shard: I think that the ideal relationship would be one like the Mistborn RPG has. I haven’t spent a lot of time over there, but from what I understand, it runs like an extension of the Shard, with the same rules and leaders. But once we’re independent, the way we operate could change. That then begs questions about whether advertising our RP is allowed, but that’s up to the overlords to discuss. Subforum relabelling: I expect that if we chose to migrate, this subforum would be wither hidden or moved to the Inactive zone. This would obviously decrease our visibility. Another implication is that the setup would be different (obviously). This could mean that some features that are currently accessible to us would be unavailable. If we got a new website, there are some features that I would really like to have, so, as Kidpen put it, the change isn’t a downgrade. My Wishlist: Notifications: I would like some way to follow specific threads, so I can focus on only the areas I’m involved in and can be alerted of new activity. Private messaging capability: I would be fine with having public chat forums protected by a rank system, but I have enough short, direct conversations with people both in and out of my guild that I would miss PMs if we didn’t have them. I don’t want limitations on my ability to directly talk to members of other guilds if I want to. If this is a deal breaker, I’m fine with using Discord as a substitute, but PMs are preferred. Swear filter: One like the Shard’s would help keep the site family friendly. Threads: We need the standard suite of subforums and threads in order to operate. Users need to be able to post text and images. The usual stuff. Rules: For legal reasons, a disclaimer needs to be acknowledged by new users. Also, the expectations for behaviour need to be clearly stated. A Gallery and Character Database: These would be nice to have, if possible. I’m picturing something like our wiki. It’s got to be pretty: If the site isn’t visually appealing and easy to read, I will complain. Loudly. Don’t tell Chaos, but I don’t like the Mistborn RPG colour scheme. It’s too dark and gloomy. I know that that’s basically a list of features the Shard has. That’s because I like our current situation. Personally, I’m content with what we’ve got. However, I recognize that there are other options out there, and I’m open to hearing about them. I’m squarely in the ‘it depends what features it has’ camp; I’ll withhold judgement until I see what features Voidus proposes. But, to quote Mac, ‘if we wanted to make ourselves a forum, [and it] ended up literally being the same thing as this but under a different domain name, then I [will] not support it.’ However, even if we don’t choose to move to a new website, we can still benefit from this brainstorming session. People are making good suggestions. Some of them could be modified and implemented here. That’s something to keep in mind while you read through these posts. Thanks for your time.
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  3. From the album: The Knight Radiant

    I honestly started this one as a practice piece. Wanted to make something cloudy and huge and decided to make the Stormfather. No beard in this one I'm afraid or if there is one. It might resemble that of Ragnar Lodbrok, something small and vikingesk! :)
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  4. How does Dalinar make a run-on sentence a gramatically correct one?
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  5. xxGaea and I are busy sorting 1350 MtG cards we got today, so the write up will come later. Snipexe was a Eliminator Disciple of GammaFiend. Araris (1): Bard Snipexe (5): Araris, CadCom, Fifth Scholar, Steel, Walin Rand (1): Fura Walin (3): Arand Fura (1): Elandera Amanuensis(1): Amanuensis ALSO: There will be a vote today. As discussion has started to slow during Week Turns, we are considering changing both turns to being 24 hours long. Please vote today if you would like to have 24 Hour turns, or stay at 48 hour turns.
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  6. You guys!!! I made the tenth pancake!!! They are fluffy chocolate pancakes doused in more chocolate worthy of no mortal! (Except me, of course, but I am no ordinary mortal) I also made chouta, but it tasted... well... probably how Kaladin imagined it. I mean, it's not deep fried, it's just meatballs, gravy, and naan bread... I had high hopes, but this one has disappointed me. At least It looks nice... I guess...
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  7. The camp groggily got to their feet, while the snowstorm started to intensify. Boots trampled the frozen grass, as the soldiers attempted to understand their situation. One of their own had been murdered. Logmul had passed out after seeing the body, and the early risers were helping her to her feet. The snow had thankfully put out the barracks fire, but the damage was done. Acid had leaked onto most of the camp’s chalk supply, leaving them with pitiful resources. The platoon considered marching back to headquarters, but the storm put a damper on that plan. Already snow was beginning to accumulate on the ground. They huddled together trying to keep warm. No one could deny that there was a murderer among them, and suspicions began to run rampant. It wouldn’t be long before someone died next. Camp Supply: Welcome to the game. Please note that I have changed the Thief's win condition to obtaining four unique items to better accommodate for the amount of players. This cycle will end on Saturday April 6th, at 7:00 PM Eastern Time. Here's a timer Player List:
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  8. What did Vin say when her adoptive father arrived at the party? Kel's here. I have this headcanon that Bridge 4 makes Chuck Norris jokes about Kaladin I hear Kaladin sleeps with a spear under his pillow. I hear Kaladin can refill spheres by looking at them. Kaladin Stormblessed won a staring contest with a statue. Kaladin Stormblessed has a chasmfiend in his room. It's not dead, just afraid to move.
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  9. For all those atla fans...
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  10. What suggestions do you have for people struggling to soulcast the common stick?
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  11. "Nice to meet you, Cassie" James said, as he walked in and extended a hand to her. "I don't suppose you ever call your uncle James Bond, would you?" he said with a slight grin
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  13. What are some of your favorite theories you came up with in WoK and/or WoR that were later proven incorrect (or are very unlikely to occur after OB)? I read on my phone so it's often funny to see my old annotations/highlights/theories on re-reads. I formed this theory in WoR that Pattern would be the key to reading and properly understanding the Diagram. Pretty unlikely now that Mr. T has switched sides and he's re-interpreted the Diagram after his day of brilliance, but I thought it was a pretty good one at the time.
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  14. *slowly turns swivel chair around to face Jasnah* *steeples fingers* "Have you heard of Hemalurgy? I think you might find it.. interesting." *cackles menacingly*
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  15. Rag Domi! Hrugath Ja! On that note, how does Shallan (OB p1-4) fix a run on sentence?
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  16. An idea that came out of nowhere: the Incredible Dark Alley COOKIE NOM NOM!
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  17. How the ten orders go on a run Windrunner: Refuses to leave the parking lot, in case there are any runners that need to be protected from the cars Skybreaker: Doesn't run on the crosswalk when the hand is red even though there aren't any cars within a mile Dustbringer: Purposefully runs out in the middle of traffic, hoping to cause a wreck (gives windrunner a heart attack every time it happens) Edgedancer: Runs Glides with the really slow people so they're not forgotten Truthwatcher: Doesn't go on a run, he foresees nothing but pain, agony, and shin-splints Lightweavers: Creates illusions of self running really fast by everyone else just to tick them off Elsecallers: Studies what the best form for running is Willshapers: Goes on all the different roads, and never runs on the same one Stonewards: Often wonders what running would be like, let alone moving Bondsmith: Tries to get everyone to run together, in a pack, but no one ever sticks together
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  18. One of the DA mutters something about how matter investiture and energy are all the same thing.
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  19. This is just not the way it works. Soldiers question orders. Many who don't are haunted by the things they do. A "simple soldier" still has to deal with the moral and psychological ramifications of what they've done. Stormlight spoilers Military training to distance yourself from the emotions involved in killing a person is literally trying to turn someone into a functional sociopath so that they don't question, and don't deal with the aftermath. Which is exactly the way Kelsier functions. It's been my point the entire time. Edit: normal human psychology does not allow someone to simply shut of their empathy. That has to either be something you are born with. Or something that is conditioned into you. Regardless of which method achieved this is how Kel works. Add in the ego, the manipulation (even towards those who he does manage to feel empathy for) the complete lack of guilt in any situation, replaced by shame in some situations... He is a Sociopath. He is a very well done depiction of a realistic sociopath. Which is so storming rare in media, and callous disregard for human life so often depicted as "heroic," I'm not surprised it's so adamantly rejected by so many.
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  20. Your request for aid has been heeded by the 17th Shard Nonexistent Guild Coalition. Members of the Butt Venture Fan Club, Mistborn Can And Do Make Sense Foundation, and the Shard Tax Collectors' Union have arrived to aid the Emperor.
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  21. Storms, how did you know? HOID RUN THEY FIGURED IT OUT
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  22. My 3rd grade son came home from school proclaiming that he had to make a shoebox diorama by tomorrow. The assignment is to make a diorama of a scene from a favorite book using Peeps. My boys are obsessed with the Reckoners, and so this is the result: the prologue of Steelheart with Peeps. We now challenge you to recreate your favorite Sanderson scene using Peeps and/or other candy.
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  23. Just what the title asks: If you had a chance to Q&A with Jasnah, what would you ask her? (I'm thinking post-Oathbringer questions) Mine are - What was it like growing up with Gavilar and Navani as parents? As Alethkar's new leader, what do you plan to do about the new Desolation? What do you think of the prohibition of men not being able to read or write?
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  24. I read the stormlight books before I found out Brandon is a devout mormon and at first it was really disappointing but after thinking about it for a year I've realized that it must be why he can write so much. I mean if I couldn't drink or smoke id have to have a lot more hobbies. I also was worried that Brandons mormonism would somehow show up in his writing but after reading all released cosmere works (still haven't finished Elantris though its so slow) I've realized that the religions are some of my favorite parts of his books and they're all so varied and imaginative yet believable. also on rereading WOK I came across a scene where Jasnah talks about her atheism and It was almost exactly how I personally feel, so shouts out to brandaddy for really taking the time to understand lots of viewpoints and writing the best books ever
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  26. because anyone can be a father but it takes a real man to be a daddy
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  27. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: I actually love Harry Potter, sorry if this is super harsh!
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  28. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone: Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets:
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  29. Taravangian bonding the Nightwatcher to become a rival Bondsmith and gathering radiants of his own. Only one part of that slightly happened. And I don't see the rest coming true after OB.
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  30. Leona walked up to the kitchen counter, raised her hands, and inhaled. She set a lump of play-doh onto the counter and closed her eyes. really? asked Onyx "Yes. Really." She fell into Shadesmar. She found her sphere of play-doh, and willed it to become cake. When she opened her eyes, a lump of chocolate cake sat on the counter. Delicious.
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  31. Even if that was true (which I do not believe is the case). Laral and Jasnah dispute that. Even if you could provide evidence to (in your opinion) dispute what Calderis said about Laral. Jasnah disputes that. Jasnah was clear and unequivocally shown to be the ruler of Alethkar in truth. So not sure where we can go from here.
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  32. How the ten orders act in prison Windrunner: Makes sure that all others are well cared for and tries to get them parole. Skybreaker: Memorizes all prison rules and would have been the first to receive parole but he keeps pointing out flaws in the management system and giving the gaurds infractions. Edgedancer: Is in charge of the nightly prisson party that they invite all of the new prisoners to. No one knows how they get the booze. Elsecaller: Spends a week locked in solitary with law books then gets out of prison on a technicality. Truthwachter: No one seems to remember what they are in prison for or why they are still here but they give great advice on prison life if you can get them talking Willshaper: Got arrested specifically so that they can experience prisson. Dutifully takes notes on everything the Truthwatcher says. Stonward: Is a model prisoner as he just stays were he is put. Eventually they put him on house arrest because moving him is too much trouble. Dustbringer: Is currently on his 7th Jailbreak the evidence of the last 5 are still visible in the newly patched walls Lightweaver: Are they still in prison? No one knows for sure but I think I saw them at mealtime. Bondsmith: Treis to unite the prison guards with the prisoners and form a collective prison identity.
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  33. I just signed on to find this discussion going. Thank you for saving me the effort of thinking everything through, Archer.
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  34. Living up to your insanity, Archer, as always.
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  35. Obviously. A person is still responsible for their own actions. And repeatedly taking part in atrocities means they're alright with their actions. My issue is much the same as Inquisitor's. Your stance would condemn those like Elend who took no joy in the treatment of the skaa. The issue I see with a blanket statement like Kelsier's though, is that it lays the blame for all of the atrocities at the feet of anyone with noble blood, or those merely working to feed their families. Say that the events of Era one did not happen and Elend succeeded Straff in the running of House venture. There are two possibilities that could happen. First, and unfortunately more likely, Elend succumbs to social pressure, and while not taking part in the more atrocious parts of the Empires noble practices, he does nothing to alleviate the skaa hardship. Second, he does attempt to make reforms, and the Lord ruler puts his foot down and forces change. This could go as far as killing Elend, which would have the effect of other houses, and his successor, then being more harsh in an effort to distance themselves from what Elend did. Either way the system prevails and the skaa suffer. The only gain is that Elend dies without being a monster. This is the system as it stood, and the brunt of the burden of guilt lays at Rashek's feet. Individuals are culpable for what they themselves do, and that's never been in question, but blaming those who have done nothing but live within the system is ridiculous.
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  36. Ahem. Stick is no “common stick”. He is the best, strongest, most diligent, most persevering, most commanding, and most athletic stick ever to exist!
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  37. It would be equally correct to say that the US presidency is a puppet position because he appoints cabinet secretaries. A head of state can be week or a puppet figure but he does not become one because he has people do part of the job for him. Delegation is part of a good leader.
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  38. She might be my favorite. Lets face it she is amazing.
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  39. @SwordNimiForPresident Yes, I will agree that they are still responsible for their actions, each rape, each murder, is usually willful. (Though I guess you consider Elend an immoral character then, for not refusing, to the point of death, to sleep with a skaa prostitute on Straff's orders when he was twelve...) And did the nobles have any realistic choice when it came to being slavers? They didn't have ultimate authority over "their" skaa. Need I remind you that the Final Empire is also a big fan of punishing anyone connected to known rebels, or just random people, to make a point? Would you risk your family, your friends, your countrymen, for a chance to take the moral high ground, even if they were in no way complicit in what you were doing? What would be the point in dying heroically? You have the moral high ground and are dead. I'm sorry if this comes off as overly harsh/confrontational or a personal attack. I do however fundamentally disagree with what I'm interpreting your moral stance as, if nothing else how you seem to favour a view of moral absolutes. ¤_¤
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  40. If this is now a joke thread then I give this to you, courtesy of my friend Ursula. Why didn't the obligator want to become a Steel Inquisitor?
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  41. How the ten orders get arrested: Windrunner: Tries to “save” someone from getting injured on a hike, so they kidnap them to prevent them from going on the hike in the first place. Skybreaker: Arrests themselves for accidentally littering. Edgedancer: Steals from the rich to give to the poor (read: forgotten). Elsecaller: Gets arrested for conducting illegal experiments on random passerby. Truthwatcher: Somehow manages to wander into a top secret government facility. Willshaper: Tries new “experiences” like robbing a bank and random heists. Stoneward: Was just standing in the middle of a construction site and would not move. Didn’t say anything, just stood there. Birds even landed on them. Dustbringer: Has committed practically every single crime. Especially arson. Their most recent one was blowing up random buildings. Lightweaver: Gets arrested for impersonating the president. No one knows how long they were doing it or where the real president actually is. Bondsmith: Tries to take over the world so he can “unite” all of the countries together.
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  42. One quick thought for people's consideration, we could potentially do away with guild PMs by having different access roles for different groups, and each guild could have its own subforum which isn't visible to those outside of the guild.
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  43. If I remember correctly he's talking about the fact that Drehy and Skar hadn't returned. Dru, I believe, was with Drehy. That said a while back someone proposed Kal+Lopen and while there's little evidence for that it sounds so amazing to me that I really want that to be canon now.
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  44. Wax, but only when he's with Wayne. Together they are hilarious. Teft, Adolin and Dalinar are really good too. And who can forget grumpy ol Kaladin? Sazed and Breeze were very well written IMO. Lightsong was the best part of Warbreaker by far. Sixth of the dusk was pretty cool with the whole, "I don't talk" thing.
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  45. The Umbrella Academy Mistborn The Final Empire: Mistborn Well of Ascension: Mistborn Hero of Ages: Big Hero 6:
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  46. Nobody expects the Shard of Inquisition!
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