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In the fight for supremacy of the 4th roast tournament, one round stands out…. The Nobility of Roshar is grouped together to roast each other… While the smoke rises from the Rift based roasts, in a clearing a figure steps out, dressed in a splendid coat made of the best Liaforian fabrics…. While the word HATE appears in golden flames on the ground, he starts to rap in a perfect beat, initiating the end of this round….

It if was up to me, I’d start a petition to make the Rosharan nobility participate in at least one rap battle... um, Stormlight 4 anyone? Here’s the link... https://goo.gl/forms/LpwFpZqhUllqElM72 VOTE VOTE VOTE!

The following passage was deleted due to the sheer idiocy of its content: The REAL Roast:

Favorite Word = MINE!

So this week in general was great. Especially yesterday, but all in all I am really happy right now. Yesterday we went to a concert of my favourite band and they were fantastic. They played lots of great songs, especially lots of older ones. It was really fun to see, how the crowd was quieter when they announced their old ones. I have almost no voice today, because I had to sing every song along. Their music helped through a lot of darker times in my life and to see them again after three years, I can't really describe how much that means to me. And I decided to go to another concert of them again in two weeks. There are still tickets available And my brother and I decided to fly to Australia next year and right now it looks like my company will play along and I can go. And Skyward hit the market this week and it was great!

Lol, I asked so many questions of Brandon that he misquoted himself in my personalization. He combined "Can I eat your lunch?" and a Skyward quote to make "Can I eat your stars?". Ladies and Gentlemen, Lift now wants to eat the stars... For those of you who were asking about whether or not I am present on the 17th Shard, here I am. Brandon answered two things for me.... (Spoiler Alert for Oathbringer and Elantris) In the scene between Odium and Taravangian at the end of Oathbringer, we see Odium expanding upon The Diagram with his future sight. There is a blacked-out portion with Renarin's name linked to it. Brandon confirmed that this is because Renarin's future sight interferes with Odium's in a manner similar to how burning Electrum interferes with Atium. He said that all future sight interferes with each other through a sort of ripple effect. With Elantris, Brandon stated that the Dor's renewal of Elantrians is partly because of the changes wrought upon them and partly because of the large Aon Rao that forms Elantris. With respect to the changes wrought on the Elantrians, he said that it is partly because of changes to the spiritweb and partly because of physical changes to their body (similar to the physical changes in the Dakhor monks). He RAFO'd everything else unfortunately...

On one hand, i got promoted to a bridgeman. On the other hand, i was a spearman before. So did i actually fot demoted?

Looking back on this, I'm more minded to view Fifth as a villager from it. Given the actions of Metaterminal, It looks like the eliminators tried to keep me from being praised in the first cycle. This post contradicts itself within four lines. He claims to want a D1 lynch, fitting with common village wisdom, but sets a standard of voting for himself far higher than is feasible on D1, and conveniently prevents him from expressing an opinion. I'm similarly slightly suspicious of Elandera for the push to prevent my being praised, particularly in light of some of her later interactions with Metaterminal and Rathmaskal, but much less so than of MetaTerminal. Here, Elandera puts thoughts on the lynch into the open, contributing to discussion, and I'm still unconvinced that the attack on her was a WGG. Again, fear of me without rationale, and voting for a candidate demonstratively as influential in the first cycle. Why would Fifth not be just as much of a risk of shooting yourself in the foot? Here Meta requires someone else vote properly before removing a poke vote, seemingly to encourage discussion, whilst simultaneously acting in a way that admits to having no reason for his own vote. The double standard, and the refusal to engage in alignment indicative posting build my suspicion of MetaTerminal. Again, a lack of alignment indicative information, and jumping on a bandwagon. This is the first post that clears Araris for me. He quite correctly points out that Metaterminal shouldn't be nearly as frightened of me as he claims to be. Elandera summarises the thread, which I normally find suspicious, but adds her own thoughts. Her suspicion of MetaTerminal this early leads me to further diminish my suspicion of her. @MetaTerminal, why then did you vote to praise Fifth Scholar in the same cycle? He was just as vocal in the cycle as I'd been, and was just as much of a threat with influence. Further, I've never played a game with you that I recall, and am unsure why such paranoia is therefore apparent. This reads very much to me like an attempt to justify preventing village!Orlok from having influence due to fear your team has made you aware of. MetaTerminal goes to great lengths here to have us avoid looking for eliminators in the bandwagon he joined. MetaTerminal defends Rathmaskal (further links between them later), and votes on Fifth, an active player. He backpedals significantly on his views on the Cadcom lynch. At this point, I might conclude that MetaTerminal was the only eliminator in this lynch. I'm minded to clear Steeldancer for this post. Araris' continued focus on MetaTerminal also leads me to believe he's a villager. Link between MetaTerminal and Elendara. I keep flipflopping on whether they're teammates, or whether this is a pocketing attempt. Definitely worth a scan, and maybe a lynch after lynching MetaTerminal and Rathmaskal. Further interaction between MetaTerminal, Rathmaskal, and Elendara. This strikes me as a panicking eliminator distancing himself from the team, when he thinks he might die. Real life happens, and I'm very surprised by the vote on me here. The vote removal from Rathmaskal feels odd, at this point. This post saved MetaTerminal, and with the above leads me to think MetaTerminal and Rathmaskal are teammates. At this point, I'd clear Steeldancer, Araris, and Fifth, and would like other views on Elandera.

Defending Elysium spoilers ahead.

Im sorry if this offends human love only people but im going to just toss this out into the cosmere. My dream couple is Syl the "timepiece spren" and that emo surgeon with them puppy dog glowing light eyes Kaladin. I mean by ruin, if a kandra can shag wayne then an piece of honor can get with a human

Hello. I'm Zinc Counselor. Been perusing the forums and WOB for a while. Finally officially joining your ranks.

My first signing. Great to hear him talk and hear that noncanon scene from Stormlight 9. I got a couple books signed, and asked him about kandra and aviar. Me: I know you've said in the past there are size limitations for what kandra can mimic, like they can't lop off a part of their body and make a squirrel. So my question is if a Kandra in human form absorbed or consumed an aviar and placed it on their shoulder like a pirate, it wouldn't be able to fly off ever but it would be a contiguous part of their body connected to them. So could the kandra gain the aviar's abilities? Sanderson: *thinks* No. Good question! No, because they're just replicating the body not the soul.

I only asked him one question Me: In The Final Empire, the captain of the Luthadel garrison is named ‘Bevidon’ Brandon: Yes Me: which sounds suspiciously like Bavadin Brandon: It does Me: Any connection there? Brandon: RAFO

Hey! That was mine! EDIT: he didn’t say the end but though. I think we both asked the same question.

Which account is in question here @Badadah? I want to do some testing.

No idea if he had to do something specific. Ten minus One because he is the Void is what I lean towards. There’s a lot we don’t know, the 10 gas giants are weird. It’s like the systems magic # is 10 because of them. You would think it would be 13 or 16. They are also named for the 10 essences and are portrayed as having the same color as the gemstones of each radiant order. I don’t know if that’s an in world artistic flair or if the gas giants actually are those colors.

My work-around for that is to post a status update on their page, then report my post. Alternatively, you could PM them, then report your PM's OP. I find that the mod's response is often underwhelming in these cases. Usually they remove their About Me page, and purge the info from their bio, but rarely delete the account. Sure, most bots are harmless, and hardly worth reporting. For most accounts, people will only see the ads if they go to the bot's profile page. But leaving the account intact means their username is unavailable for real people, and it artificially inflates our member tally. I know that the mods don't want to accidentally delete a real person's account, so for benign accounts they often play it safe and just maim it, which is fine. But I wish they had an option to 'hide' accounts, like they can do to posts (maybe create a special title for bots, like the Arcanist and Global Mod titles, but it revokes the accounts ability to be seen). Or they renamed obviously fake accounts SPAMBOT####### to free up their username and make it obvious what they are. That said, I don't want to take away from all the great work they currently do to fight bots. Y'all are super dedicated and on top of things, and I appreciate it.

As @Invocation said, the entire system was created. 10 gas giants. 3 (arguably) habitable planets. 3 moons on Roshar. 16 celestial bodies.

Just got done reading it all in one sitting, someone remind me not to do that again. First thoughts I had after finishing was I really got to work on my insults and battle cries some the ones I read were just too good. Second thoughts I had was I felt that the answer to some of the questions answered were answered to close to the end of the book I understand that we are getting more books, but come on at least give us more time to take them in. Other than that I really liked how Sanderson developed Spensa over the course of the series. Oh and there is totally something up with Doomslug I mean a slug that can move incredibly fast in an instant screams teleportation to me.

Lift singing "I'm on the edge the edge, the edge the edge, the edge the edge THEEEE EEEEDDDDGGGGEEE!!!!" The king leads everyone on singing a version of "How do we solve a problem like Maria" but with Siri as the theme.

I figured it was about time I lived up to my name! Here is some lyrics plus recording for "Rolling in the Deep...ness". Much spoilers for Mistborn Era 1, enjoy my mediocre guitar skills and not at all Adele-esque singing. This is Vin's angry break up song to the Lord Ruler. Lol. Rolling in the Deep...ness.m4a

*hugs @Ashspren and @Inklingspren* People suck. That's just life, but it sure doesn't make it any easier. Ashspren, talk to her. Not even necessariliy to her face-to-face, but find a way to tell her all of that. Honesty is a solution that almost always works. Tell her how you've been feeling and most likely you'll discover some miscommunication you've both been missing. Ink, time does wonders to rumors. The moment something else comes out, you'll be considered old news. Probably. And hope your mom gets home soon-ish so you will cease to be headphoneless.

Okay, so this may seem kind of petty, but it’s actually been affecting me, unfortunately, and I’ve gotta get some thicker skin and get over it. Basically, there was this girl. She was a friend of mine for a very long time, and we were inseparable. Now, come this year, something, for some reason, changed. When she’s around other people, she acts like she doesn’t know me. But, when it’s the two of us, she still acts different than what it was before, just... different. Sometime after she changed, she found out that I hadn’t told her this “very important” secret. It turned out to be the fact that a very close friend of mine wanted to ask her out. He asked me not to tell anyone, so I said I wouldn’t. Case closed. I don’t ever go back in someone’s trust like that. However, she came up with some rules of “being best friends” and said that we had to tell each other everything. Then, she proceeded to poke into my social life, and after literally thirty seconds, she proceeded to tell me, “This is all you ever talk about. Why can’t we talk about something else?” For the entire three months after that, she didn’t talk to me. At all. I felt like this was kind of melodramatic. Now, throw an over enthusiastic friend into the equation. Like, look dude, I love you and all, and you’re like an annoying twin brother to me, but please please please stay out of this. He noticed that we were having problems in our friendship, and he is someone who I’ve always confided in. Unfortunately, he ended up telling her everything that I said about her. I didn’t say anything bad, but still, I wouldn’t want somebody to go around telling people what I say. It’s personal. His solution was to stage a conference call with the old friend and I, and have him acting as a mediator between us. I decided against it, because I didn’t want to get more people involved. I appreciate that decision more and more, now. I don’t want to blow this up. Now, add in the fact that she started insulting a close friend of mine. I don’t know if she’s jealous, but news flash to her: she’s the one who started acting different! Throughout this entire “distant” period, I’ve been trying to talk to her and just have a conversation, but she blows me off and essentially avoids me. Finally, the most recent part. I found myself thinking, “Nope. This is the end. Put on the Taylor Swift, because ‘the story of us looks a lot like a tragedy now,’ and ‘we are never ever ever getting back together.’” “Hey, [Ashspren]! Yesterday was, like, the first time in four years that you haven’t come over! It’s almost tradition!” She didn’t invite me over. “Haha, yeah, stuff just got really busy.” The next day, via social media, I found out that she invited a bunch of other people over. I don’t know why this bothered me so much, because I knew everything was pretty much done, but it did. I think it was maybe the fact that she had the nerve to say, one day after all of those other people went over, that I hadn’t been there. It really just rubbed me the wrong way. Anyway, I realize that she’s actually a very toxic person to have in my life, but I still look back and see all of the good times from earlier in our “friendship days,” y’know? It’s just difficult to see the new person that she’s become. Again, this all seems really petty and not that serious compared to some other things on this thread (I’m sorry!), but I just needed to rant.

You could say that the structure of this book is Storm-lite.

An added thought: This book definitely felt like Sanderson still had some "Stormlight writing" in him with the additions of the interludes and the drawings. If this is a constant thing going forward, I am ALL ABORD. The interludes aren't anything special, but they definitely helped flesh out Ironsides, and while the drawings are simple, they add so much in terms of cinematic value! It makes me feel like I'm getting the most bang for my buck.

I'm pretty busy right now, but if I have time, I am going to make a kind of ghetto spray paint stenciled version of this shirt. The tagline was inspired by an incredibly funny comment by @RShara that Mr. T is a plant by Cultivation: The back of the shirt will have to wait until I have more time to get my silk screen up and running (spoilered below): So if you see someone with a giant spray painted T on their shirt at the signing, it'lll most likely be me.

So the Sibling on Roshar is the collective spirit of all dead siblings in Sanderson's work?

Actually, we know quite a bit about him. He’s American, born December 19, 1975, brought up as a practicing Mormon, and is best known for the creation of the universe known as the Cosmere. In all seriousness, I’ve always thought it was pretty obvious that the so-called ‘God Beyond’ was Brandon. lol.

Elsewhere on the island. A tree branch hit Klasten in the face. He cursed under his breath, insulting the tree’s mother. The tree didn’t reply. Ahead of him, his guide rambled about the local flora as he cut a path through the undergrowth with his machete. “When the outside temperature rises,” he loudly proclaimed, “One thousand and one yellow daffodils begin to dance in front of you. Oh dear.” He abruptly froze, and Klasten rear-ended him. Rubbing his jaw, Klasten peered over the man’s shoulder to see what he ad stopped for. On the ground, a pair of small rodents glared back at him. “Are they trying to tell you something?” Klasten asked wryly. The guide began to stammer a response, but Klasten cut him off. “To be honest, you haven't got a clue,” he said, pushing past him. He tried to step over the rodents, but as he did, one of them leaped up and sunk its sizable teeth into Klasten’s boot. “It finally happened!” the guide crowed. He held his hand up and the tree high-fived it. The rodents ran off, gleefully shrieking. Meanwhile, Klasten had dramatically paled. “I'm coming down with a fever,” he said softly. Then fell backwards, unconscious before he’d even hit the ground. In his head, four words kept repeating over and over, a repetitive chorus beating his brain like a hammer hitting an anvil. The guide crouched next to him to search his pockets. He accomplice stepped out from the bushes to help him, picking off the sticks and leaves he’d taped to himself as he went. The guide asked him what he was supposed to be. “I think I'm a banana tree,” the man replied. Within minutes, they’d searched Klasten’s person, and removed his valuables. They took his hat, boots, ammo belt, and spare gun. They left him his bag though because it felt empty. They then ran back the way they’d came so they could start a guided tour for the next gullible tourist.

Last week, I talked about how my car broke down. Today the mechanic got back to me. It's not just one thing that's blown and needs replacing. The entire piece of crem is ruined. Now I'm going through the car buying process, and it's been a load on my plate. Add that to me being a full time student and working and it's just been a week.

New here but I had to ask, do you all think that Spensa’s Cytonic gift is based off of Shadesmar a little bit? A dangerous place with ancient creatures that works outside of regular time?

when I was at a signing, saw this giant pile of Legion, and I thought "if books could talk..."

Hoid expressly does not hurt Kelsier. Kelsier feels pain because he believes getting hit should cause that, but there was no actual harm done. That's the entire reason that Hoid could hit him in the first place. If silver effects cognitive being like it does shades, then it would consume the silver, and presumably cause actual harm to the entity effected.

Spoilers: Was i the only one sad about this being the future of DE story? I mean the book ends with a war thats about to start, humans vs the universe and by the end of skyward u realize we lost that war.

I particularly love the "empty box with a display" that is described for where the Cytonic hyperdrive is supposed to go in M-Bot. We are told by Rig that it's not there, just empty housing with a display, and we are meant to believe the previous pilot took it for some reason. If I recall correctly (and it HAS been a while), that was the entire twist in Defending Elysium... There WAS no device, it's powered by the supposed "guard" protecting the device, or in this case, a pilot. Other thoughts: Spensa's situation at the end of the book seems to be well in hand. She has the admiral's guilt protecting her, the truth about her father's death coming to light and answers as well as hope for a way to end their people's plight. Not to mention she's the only one with Cytonic ability that we know of AND the intermediary with the most advanced ship they have and M-Bot won't let them take him away from her. Usually we have SOME indication of what the challenges will lay in the next book when a sequel is setup, but in this case I think the only thing we can guess right now is that maybe the humans will be able to get such a strong advantage on their Krell "prison guards" in the constant fighting, that the Krell coalition will panic and need to actually send in some REAL forces. I'd then imagine it becomes a race to see if the humans master FTL Cytonic travel to escape before an overwhelming Krell force appears? If the (fascist style) pacifism from the other alien species in Defending Elysium can be used as a metric, I wonder if there even IS a Krell force that could be more intimidating.

Apologies for how long this took to get out, I normally wait until I finish the chapter after the one that needs posting so that I can clear my head for when I do a revision. I've been really struggling with Chapter Five so I just never got around to posting Chapter Four. It's been done for ages. I apologise. Anyway, enjoy.... Chapter Four: Herald of War

Per recent WOB Nicrosil works a little more like Copper in that you place a discrete thing in and take it back out, as opposed to most of the others were you are more fiddling with an attribute slider bar and storing/tapping some relative percentage of a non-specific commodity-style entity. Given that it may not actually do much when Compounded, or at least not as dramatic as some of the other metals. EDIT: This is the case for the Nicrosil portion of medallions, there is still some debate on whether standard metalminds would work the same.

In the WoK, Hoid tells the story of a group of people who committed horrible things under the orders of a king only to discover that that king had been dead for years, and that they were responsible for their horrible actions. The dead king is discovered in the passage below: “Derethil and his men came out of the tower a short time later, carrying a desiccated corpse in fine robes and jewelry. ‘This is your emperor?’ Derethil demanded. ‘We found him in the top room, alone.’ It appeared that the man had been dead for years, but nobody had dared enter his tower. They were too frightened of him." In the final chapter Dalinar finally realizes that the Almighty hadn't been talking in response to him, that he hadn't been following orders but had been misinterpreting the visions. He then learns that the Almighty is dead. The title of this final chapter? In the Top Room.

My major issue with this theory is that Axies appeared to know very little about the spren when we first meet him in Kasitor. If Dai- Gonarthis directly or indirectly led to the "destruction" of Aimia (“destruction,” in quotes because the Kaza Interlude in Oathbringer hints that Aimia might not be as destroyed as the reader was initially led to believe) and is now known as (ironically) Cusicesh, the Protector, then it seems our Aimian spren-expert's thoughts would have touched upon that, if even just briefly. Aimia wasn’t “destroyed” until after the Final Desolation, and we know from Axies and Arclo's comments that Aimians are very long-lived (I believe WoB is that they are “basically immortal”); Arclo even claims to be alive before the Last Desolation. Therefore, at least Arclo would have likely been around when Dai Gonarthis “destroyed” Aimia, and would likely be aware if the “destroyer” of Aimia had -devolved? diminished? - into what was now commonly known as “Cusicesh, The Protector.” And if at least some Aimians were aware that this large spren in Kasitor Bay was the current form of the “destroyer” of Aimia, wouldn’t it be likely that an Aimian who “made it his life’s work to observe, catalogue, and study every single type of spren in Roshar” like Axies would be aware of this? Instead, Axies thoughts reflect someone who is reviewing an academic curiosity: (Both quotes from WoK, I-5, Axies the Collector) In my opinion, Axies almost complete unfamiliarity with Cusicesh makes it unlikely that this spren is the current form of Dai Gonarthis, or any Unmade for that matter.

More Sanderfan memes:

SPOILERS FOR WORDS OF RADIANCE:

When your first thought after reading that is, "But the Weeping was yesterday..." (It was pouring)

Today there were huge thunderstorms in our area and during lunch, the cafeteria lights flickered and this low rumble of thunder went off.I just whispered "the stormfather is angry" My friend beside me completely lost it.

When you see a little insect climbing the wall and you count it's legs and think 'Cremling!!!'