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"Thranduil, you must listen to me! The danger is dire, and the shadow will soon spread through all the world, reaching even here in Eryn Galen! Our response to the threat must be swift!" "Mithrandir, your warnings are grim news to the Southrons, but what care we for them? Greenwood is safe from all, and the kingdoms of men are of no concern to us." Thranduil waved a dismissive hand. "Begone with your babbling, old wizard. We have no need of your ilk here." Gandalf drew up, becoming… deeper, yet brighter. His voice lowered. "King Thranduil, if you do not respond, the threat within your own woods will only grow stronger. You know of the shadow within Dol Gulder. It feeds off the despair of all races, and men and elves alike will suffer if we do not swiftly respond. I have not thus ventured into Dol Gulder, as whatever resides there may be beyond my skill to handle, yet we must travel to the south now to defeat the evil arising." He paused. "I believe it may be a demon of power, a Valarauko. A Balrog of Angband, so long hidden among the caverns of Ennor." Thranduil snorted, a hilariously derisive sound from one who should have been regal and kingly. "I will not say it again, Gandalf the Grey. Begone from my kingdom, and take these lesser beings away with you. I have spared their lives only because of your presence, but my patience with them will not last." Gandalf sagged slightly. "I would not wish upon the most base man the suffering I fear will come unto your people, King of Greenwood. I will take my leave, but I pray you will yet heed my warnings." He turned to leave, the dwarves and men who traveled with him being led by the guards of the Elven kingdom. —— "Uncle.." "How dare you speak to me so familiarly with such treasonous words, young one!" Thranduil scowled at Legolas, Prince of Greenwood. "You seek to leave our protection for the likes of these?" "My King, the warnings of Mithrandir should not be dismissed lightly. He is right to insist on our aid." King Thranduil scowled deeper still. "If you are to leave, flee quickly, 'fore I give the order to have you bound so as to keep you from this foolishness." Legolas bowed and slipped away on silent feet. As he did, a handmaiden approached, pulling him up short just out of sight of the mad king. "Prince Greenleaf, a word. My mistress also feels your compassion and haste. She would aid in your undertaking, but she also sends a word of warning. There may be those amongst the companions of the Maiar who would wish you harm, and a journey such as this leaves you unguarded. Seek protection in anonymity, and hide yourself among them. Perhaps we may even route those who sympathize with the enemy and save the companions from harm. I myself will accompany you, similar unknown to the rest of the travelers." Legolas nodded at the wisdom, and they began their preparations. ————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— Welcome, all, to The Shadow In The South, Long Game 47, set in the Third Age of Middle-Earth, approximately 50 years prior to the events of The Hobbit. Mirkwood still stands strong, though Thranduil and his people have been driven ever further from Dol Gulder and into the northern heart of the forest. Gandalf has presented his warning, and travelers may choose to join him. This game is relatively simple, yet deceptively tricky. The rules are below, and it should also be noticed that I am strongly encouraging role-play, and will attempt to provide extensive story and prompts for role-playing opportunities, though not nearly to the extent of Amanuensis's games. I have not, however, specifically included any incentives in the rules, in order to remain welcoming to those who do not wish to role-play or are unable to commit the time. The Game: General Rules: PMs will be open during all cycles. There are no restrictions on PMs, except that I and any other GMs must be included in all PMs. Group PMs are permitted. All actions must be submitted via your role PM during the appropriate cycles. If you will be unavailable during a cycle and wish to submit your action early, let me know, and that will be handled on a case-by-case basis. The alignment and role of players who are lynched or killed will be revealed at the beginning of the following cycle. Every player must post in the thread at least once per full cycle (combined Night and Day cycles), starting from Day 3. Anyone who does not will he left behind when breaking camp the following day cycle. Players who have been left behind may be replaced by pinch hitters if available, or will be considered dead otherwise. Sending in actions or participating in PMs will not protect you. Roles: Items: Actions and restrictions: [Reserved for rule clarifications] Player List: Sign-ups begin now, and will last for 2 weeks unless we need to shorten or extend it for any reason. Timer is below. Quick Links:

This idea started for me during the sample chapters, it's evolved some to include more so I wished to expand what I started here. Much of what's in the old thread will be repeat here, but I think I've fleshed it out more for (hopefully) a different and more in depth discussion. The Forms I believe that the singers are born without a spren bond. This would mean that they are born without a "form" but have a base physiology that is unaltered by a Spren. This is not Dullform, but something distinct. I base this on the following words from Eshonai and Venli's mother in Words of Radiance This implies a coming of age ceremony in which a listener went into the storms to bond a spren for the first time. So I believe that this lack of form, or "Birthform" is the natural unbonded state of a singer. I think that this is the form that we see in the Singers that were healed by the Everstorm. I find it highly suspicious that we are never once shown a child of the listeners. The first time we see a child of the singer race is Sah's daughter, in the same form as all of the other restored Parsh. These seems to be an obfuscation to me. Next we have Dullform. It appears through the text that when a singer enters the storm to adopt a form, each Form is tied to a specific spren. Hence the search for creation Spren, and hopefully, Artform. If this is the case, why is Dullform an expected result of experimenting with new spren? I believe that Dullform is not a true "form" but a protective mechanism. When the Spren enters into the gemheart, I think that it merges with the spiritweb in a specific location, integrating into the Spiritual Aspect to alter the Physical form and thought process of the Singer, but only if the Spren is a viable option for a form. In the event that the Spren is not viable I think dullform occurs. The portion of the spiritweb that normally integrates with the Spren instead retracts, resulting in a dormant portion of their Spiritual aspect. This dulls the rhythms, reduces Cognitive function, and pushes them into a "form" very similar to another we've seen. Slaveform, or the Parshmen, also have reduced Cognitive function, and are completely incapable of bonding with spren or detecting the rhythms. I believe that this is because the same portion of the Spiritual Aspect that integrates with the Spren in a proper form, or retracts in Dullform, is fully excised. The physical similarities between Slaveform and Dullform are not coincidence. They appear similar because they are both nearly the same thing. Dullform is just more complete Spiritually. The Last Legion The group of Singers that became the listeners were a part of the "Last Legion." a group that now seems to have been composed of Regals, connected to Ba-Ado-Mishram to gain Voidlight in the false desolation, and Mateforms out of necessity. And with the knowledge of those two Non-Voidforms, a group from the Last Legion adopted Dullform to escape their gods, inadvertently saving themselves from the excision forced on the rest of their race. I believe this was possible precisely because of the protective mechanism of Dullform. The spiritweb retracts, and the connection that BAM had forged with them all through the use of the Voidforms was also withdrawn. Whatever Melishi attempted that imprisoned BAM and simultaneously crippled every other living singer, was unable to reach out and excise the Spiritual Aspects of those in Dullform. To this use of the Surges, just as to a non-viable spren, that section of the spiritweb was already gone. The Rhythms In the Slaveform singers, the rhythms are completely absent. I belive that this is because the portion that was excised and integrates with spren is the exact same piece of the spiritweb that allows for the rhythms to be detected. In Slaveform, it is absent. In Dullform they are diminished. In a true form, they are filtered through the Spren, in the variety that we have always seen listeners sense them. In a Voidform, they are altered by the investiture that has corrupted the Spren. I think this is why all of the "new" rhythms are tinged with anger and disgust. They are the old rhythms, twisted into something hateful. To attune one of the rhythms that are familiar to the original forms is difficult for someone in a Voidform, and the majority of the time that we see Venli do it is in the presence of Timbre, making me think that her proto-bond may have helped to diminish the influence of the Voidspren in her gemheart. That's it for now. Tell me your thoughts. Tear it apart. Discuss.

Come on man, you're not supposed to discuss this outside the Obstetrician Spoiler Board

You know you're a Sanderfan when one of your Facebook friends says she is "looking for an OB" and your first thought is "She's looking for an Oathbringer?"

https://wob.coppermind.net/adv_search/?query=Marsh#4142 I came across this WoB that gained my curiosity I believe that these 'reasons I haven't spoken of yet' refer to Ruin's plan following the destruction of Scadrial. Ruin would have been free from the Scadrial system, intent on causing more destruction. If Ruin were to attack a shardworld he would likely reach a stalemate, similar to the current situation in Mistborn 2 involving Harmony and the red haze (Autonomy?). In order to conquer a world, Ruin would need to deploy ground forces just like the shard currently attacking Scadrial is doing. The inquisitors are Ruin's hands and would make the perfect tools for conquering world and bringing destruction in their wake. The timeframe involved in moving from world to world destroying as you go is far longer than an Inquisitors lifespan. The inquisitors age normally and can die of old age.... Unless they are using a feruchemical Atium spike. Ruin could supply the Inquisitors with Atium which they could use to attain immortality through compounding. I know that this is hardly relevant now but I still found it fun imagining events in a parallel universe where Ruin had won. Any thoughts?

"Eperon" is the left side of an ultra supamega supremus awesome person's brain. Mraize figured it out and turns out I know too(neither if us know for reals) Thus, Brandy died, and the muffins exploded, and the ghanderflaffle merged with Butt and Arnold to create a tri-shard Below is an image of a ghanderflaffle Arnold My perception of Butt And Brandy

Not as innocent as I wish I was. Thanks, high school. But yeah, yeah, sorry. On topic - Me in PMs*: *this specific scenario didn't happen

”Inappropriate... like dividing by zero?”

Hemalurgy. It's a totally decentralized magic system. You can use it anywhere in the cosmere, as long as you know how. It doesn't require special spiritual genetics, a splinter-bond, or any kind of magical initiation. Just common things, like metal and savagery. It's even theoretically possible that, with a little hint from a worldhopper, a civilization could discover hemalurgy, study it in depth, and implement it on a huge scale, without ever realizing that they're harnessing the power of a Shard on a distant planet that they've never heard of. So here's my question. Are there other magic systems like that? And, if so, have we seen them? Is it possible that we've witnessed the magic of an unknown shard, and mistaken it for the work of a local shard, or a basic law of the cosmere? (Wouldn't hemalurgy look like that, if you used it without knowing of Ruin?) A few months ago I posted my theory about the remaining unnamed Shards of Adonalsium. Based on the logic of that theory, I proposed the existence of a shard called Artifice. Artifice is a counterpart to Cultivation, sharing her interest in progress and creation, but approaching it through more direct mechanical means. Artifice is a creator who makes no effort to disguise creation as evolution. Artifice is a god of creativity, ingenuity, and invention. (Ingenuity, of course, is a not-quite-canon Shard, much discussed on a recent Shardcast. It sounds like Ingenuity is a creativity-oriented Shard that has a definite place in the cosmere, but Brandon can't canonize it because he isn't happy with the name. Well, Brandon, how about Artifice? That's a cool name.) I theorized that Artifice's magic system would be a crafting system. That reminded me of this WoB: Based on the tone of that conversation, I'm guessing the thing that picks Elantrians isn't really a fabrial. I'm inclined to think it's an Avatar, or something like that. But that's not important. Look at the part that I underlined. So fabrials are a cosmere-wide phenomenon, with big implications for the later cosmere. (not unlike hemalurgy.) And clearly the standard spren-and-gemstone device that we've seen on Roshar is not the only kind of device that you could call a fabrial. Brandon has also confirmed that the construction of fabrials is a magic system in its own right, distinct from the others on Roshar: But we have little or no reason to believe that fabrial science is connected to any of the local shards. It may not even be native to Roshar. Combine this with its apparent universality, and I propose that the construction of fabrials is actually a non-localized magic system, like hemalurgy, connected to a currently unrevealed shard. And I think this points to the existence of a creative, mechanically-oriented shard, like my theoretical Artifice/Ingenuity. This fabrial magic system would manifest differently on different Shardworlds, using local Foci and interacting with local manifestations of investiture (magic systems). On Roshar, fabrials use spren, just like surgebinding does. On Scadrial it would work differently. I believe the many magical devices we saw in Bands of Mourning are the Scadrian manifestation of the fabrial system. The undeniable parallel is that both southern Scadrian and Rosharan artifabrians can create a mechanical device which mimics the abilities of a local magic-user. The south Scadrian airship lowers its mass, like a feruchemist. Their allomantic grenades can use allomancy, just like humans do. And on Roshar, we see fabrials that can heal like an Edgedancer, soulcast like a Lightweaver, and teleport like an Elsecaller. The construction of these Scadrian fabrials could be seen as very similar to the Rosharan variant. The power source is a reservoir of raw investiture fuel: a stormlight-infused gemstone, or an ettmetal battery. The other key component, which I'll call the Effect Generator, is another piece of investiture, comparable to innate investiture in humans, which determines the magical effect. In Rosharan fabrials the Effect Generator is a spren. In Scadrian ones it is most likely either a nicrosilmind or a hemalurgic spike, or something similar produced by the mysterious Excisor device. The third component, which connects the Effect Generator to the power source, is a metal apparatus, which I'm sure we'll find hidden inside most south Scadrian devices. This seems to reflect a basic rule of this magic system, or perhaps of the cosmere in general: an inanimate object can only use magic if it's metallic. Further speculations: Thoughts?

To all aspiring Fifth Oath Skybreakers - scaring people in the night and calling yourself Batman is not the way to achieve it.

Okay so I saw a few of the Explain a Film Plot badly things earlier and thought they were funny, so I decided to do them for the cosmere books. I think some of them are funny, so I decided to share them. Hopefully it'll at least get a few laughs. If anyone has any more or any different ones, please post them. Spoilers for the cosmere, obviously. I'll label each one just in case though. The Final Empire: Well of Ascension: Hero of Ages: Alloy of Law: Shadows of Self: Bands of Morning: Warbreaker: Elantris: I couldn't think of any for Stormlight, hopefully someone else can [EDIT by Moderator: This topic originally was solely cosmere but has moved beyond that, so I moved this to Entertainment Discussion.]

Could ideal 4 already be written out? It can't that simple but... Vasher did guide him to the third ideal. “Sometimes, Vasher wondered if the two weren’t really the same thing. Protect a flower, destroy the pests who wanted to feed on it. Protect a building, destroy the plants that could have grown in the soil. Protect a man. Live with the destruction he creates.” Excerpt From Warbreaker Brandon Sanderson

When the only reason you want to go to the family reunion is so you can talk to your Sanderfan cousins. And and aunt and uncle. Six in all, and my mom's about halfway done with tWoK. When you have a bag full of coins sitting next to your bed in case of an emergency.

From memory, Lift speaking to Gawx about Dalinar 'You can't trust him. He's got a tight butt' The explanation was just as entertaining.

That's a fascinating WoB, thank you for posting that. However, I want to point out that in your WoB Sanderson does not explicitly refute the OP's theory. He doesn't say anything about what would happen if you burned the metalmind, just that you couldn't feruchemically tap it anymore. He actually strongly suggests that there are some things you could do in this vein that would work: So I am going to predict that burning steel that used to be an ironmind would do something interesting. But not necessarily what you would expect it to do.

Obstetrician--a doctor who specializes in childbirth.

You know you're a Sanderfan when you make cookie dough, pop needles in them, and sell them..... *cough @Voidus cough*

I made some changes and I think I am going to file the rest of the comments and any future ones aside for after I rip the rest of the book apart. It is so easy to get hung up on my first twenty pages or so and I know there are major gaps later on. Thanks!

Actually compounding atium doesn't allow you to live forever. At least not how it was being done by TLR. It can keep you alive a very long time. Age is weird and is based on your connection. So essentially The Lord Ruler's connections kept trying to snap him back to his correct age. It is possible that Ruin would use a combination of of storing connection and atium to more efficiently reverse aging. Ruin's minions wouldn't need connection.

I certainly could be wrong, but I don't think Jasnah is gay, I think she's just had some things happen to her when she was younger (implied around the encounter with Amaram during OB) and as a result, she's been turned off to romance / marriage / relationships / emotional attachment ever since. I don't think it's impossible to see her re-evaluate these things given the right situation and the right person. I do agree with what some other folks have said about Kaladin though - while he definitely finds Jasnah attractive physically (noted in OB), if things played out where Jasnah wanted a political marriage with Kaladin, I'm not sure he'd go along with it, and I'd be glad that he didn't. I wouldn't want to see him enter into something like that if it's just cold and calculated only. It'll be interesting to see where things go, but I think Jasnah / Kaladin would be a fun relationship to read the development of from both of their POV, especially if it turned romantic.

This was my take on it as well. The parshmen in Slaveform seem to have been stripped of their spiritual identity. This is, as you said, achieved by an excision of the spiritweb. Dullform mimicking Slaveform to a less extreme extent supports your argument that Dullform is only a partial excision of the spiritweb. The partial excision of the spiritweb as a protective mechanism against unwillingly bonding a voidspren makes sense. A nahel bond fills cracks in the spiritweb so Venli's bond with Timbre is likely acting as a shield against the Voidspren integrating with her spiritweb. This would also put Venli in a tough spot as if she were to break her nahel bond through not following her ideals she would be exposed to a hostile takeover by the Voidspren. Edit: I just realised that this mechanism could allow a more peaceful resolution to the human-singer conflict. Jasnah proposes committing genocide as then the voidspren would have no Hosts. However, converting the parshmen into Radiants would have a similar effect and may be a large part of Venli's character arc next book.

Close, but the other way around, the WoB came about because we asked to see how plausible the character was.

When your mom tells you the doctor says your iron is running low, and you ask her how she knew you were an allomancer.

To get semi-back-on-topic: This recent conversation:

I think to make that sort of long term training plot be interesting you need to show quantifiable progress so the reader knows the story is going somewhere. Making sure that each training scene is different will help things from getting stale as well. You could also introduce some sort of subplot so the character is doing something else interesting aside from training. And if your character has somebody teaching them, make the student/teacher relationship really fun and interesting to read. Those are my suggestions. Keep up the good work!

Not a quip, per se. But just ran into this gem: Oh, Navani. Because even the Blackthorn needs to be on your schedule.

If you want you can practice on my posts

Thank you! Building off of some that have gone before... Mistborn: The Well of Ascension (and The Hero of Ages):

Mistborn Era 1: Warbreaker: Elantris: Secret History:

She was also a heretic, and it does not appear that she was particularly well liked. I'm not really sure how much it actually would mean to Adolin, in particular; they're too far apart in age to have conceivably been raised together, and Jasnah seems to have spent most of her time away from court. Most likely he didn't see her death as being much more personally relevant than the death of some distant cousin from a Cadet branch of the family. I need to see this happen. I'm not sure what that was; I'm sorry.

Previous WoB has shown that the names of many of our favorite Northern Scadrians from the Central Dominance sound French. Without “hearing” the language or seeing it written, we can only assume it, as a whole, is French sounding. source As I’ve been re-reading BoM, I noticed that Allik’s use of language sounded distinct from what we’ve been accustomed to from Northern Scadrial. His words reminded me of a Germanic language. I first noticed this when he used the medallion to speak in the language of our protagonists, because he kept ending sentences with “yah”. This is the same sound that the word “yes” in German makes, and is spelled “ja”. Then came the word “Jaggenmire” that didn’t translate to our protagonists’ language. Marasi tried to pronounce it and came up with the following: She hears the “Ja” sound as a “yay” sound, which is similar to Allik’s frequent use of “yah”. This was further evidence to me that Allik’s language is Germanic in nature. Now it was time to dig deeper, and find other words to help provide evidence for my hypothesis. After further research, I think his language is actually linguistically similar to Northern Germanic— i.e., Scandinavian, specifically Danish. (Note, Denmark is literally just north of Germany.) I started my linguistic sleuthing with Allik’s name and googled German names similar to “Allik”, and came up with the following list (with their meanings): · Alrik: “Noble Leader” · Aldrik: Noble Friend” It appears that the shared root is “Noble”. Maybe this means something about who Allik will be one day? However, these names added an extra consonant, so I kept looking and found the name “Alek” in Danish. Alek is short for Aleksander, which means “Defender of Men”. Is this where Allik gets his name from? Will he be a defender of Southern Scandrian peoples and a noble friend to our protagonists? Allik’s name wasn’t enough for me. What about words that he says in his language? My favorite words he used were the names for Preservation and Ruin: I first googled to see if these names were German words. “Herr” means “Lord” in German…this seemed like a good sign to me! Unfortunately, “Frue” is not a German word. But it is Danish. In Danish, it literally means “wife” or “Ma’am” and “Herr” literally means “Mister”. So we have Mister and Missus…just like how Allik describes them. When Allik first realized Wax was an Allomancer he said a few words aloud in his own language that Marasi overheard: “Fottenstall” doesn’t really translate to much, even if “fotten” means “feet” in Norwegian. However “hanner konge” has a very interesting meaning in Danish: “Male King”. Allik notes that Wax seems very powerful, like the Sovereign, and thinks he needs to always use some type of title for him. The Sovereign described himself as a former King from Northern Scadrial. Thus, it doesn’t surprise me that Allik may be asking Marasi if Wax is a king. I didn’t look at very many other words other than these, because all of this already seemed like good evidence that the Southern Scadrian language is similar to Northern Germanic languages, specifically Danish. If people from Northern Scadrial speak with a French accent/sound, then it seems entirely plausible that the southerners speak some type of Germanic/Scandinavian language, given the clues. What do you all think?

I love this board ! Since joining I have read some of the most logical , well thought out theories and discussions concerning the Cosmere. I’m not sure if this thread has ever been discussed ; my apologies if it has. But, I would like to have everyone take a second to list there favorite quips , jokes , one liners coming from support characters only! We spend so much time focusing on POV characters and greater Cosmere theories I feel we are ignoring the gold we have witnessed in Oathbringer. Outside of Wayne from Mistborn era 2 , Oathbringer has the strongest support character humor I have ever read in a fantasy series . Everyone from bridge 4 , Hoid, Nightblood, Rock and The Lopen ( I know they are bridge 4 but the need special mention ). What are your favorite words a support character has to say . Fan favorites won’t get you an upvote (thus no “ no mating or I am a stick “ ) those have been beaten into the ground. I Assure you Oathbringer is Full of 100 more less recognized quips that are just as good ! I’ll go first . My new fovorite line is from Teft. Dalinar Just checked Amaram and told him to basically shut up and follow orders in Thaylan . Teft eases up and says “ Permision to stab him a little Surrrrrr!” Its gold all day . I couldn’t stop laughing . Mostly because you really didn’t expect that from Teft ! What about you guys . What really made you appreciate Sanderson rich support cast ?

As @teknopathetic put it so eloquently, they/them as gender neutral pronouns is not as huge of a problem as you think it is. English teachers, of course, will probably teach it as grammatically incorrect, but it's so commonly used as gender neutral in speech that I don't see the problem with Brandon using it.

I'ma be joining this, unless there's an application. In which case I'll be applying soon--and then I will join you all this fall.

"You see that's why I invited you, cause I thought that you would know where you are or is, I think. That and haunted eyes over there is fond of you."

Odium killed Honor, but before he killed Honor, Honor binded Odium's mind to the Rosharan system, because Honor it now dead only the Stormfather, the spren that holds Tanavast's cognitive shadow, can free him. The Stormfather is a spren who doesn't change so he will never free Odium, but if a Stormfather were to bond a human, and the human says sufficient amount of oaths then the human can free Odium on Tanavast's behalf. Basically Odium is attacking Roshar, so that he can force the Stormfather's hand, which would lead to creating someone that Odium can influence to create a senario where he can freed. It's just like how Ruin could only break out of prison with Persavation's power, Odium needs Honor or someone holding Honor's power to release the binding.

It does. Those who became the listeners had to have already adopted Dullform to be protected from a one time event, with lasting effects. They did, because as the quote says, the only forms the last Legion knew were Voidforms, Mateform, and Dullform. You refer to "forms of power" many times and talk of them like they come from other sources than Odium. A "Form of power" like Envoyform, is a red eyed form. They are from Voidspren. Cultivation didn't offer these types of forms because she's not interested in controlling the singers. Cultivation is about directed growth, but that growth happens from the subject. It's the difference between teaching someone a skill, and stepping in and doing it instead of them.

Cornucopia wiped a smear of blood from her face, the green silk of her glove now stained with a crusted black and red, the blood of a creature which should have been dead a long time ago. These horrific human-like creatures had been relentless in their attacks, only growing more and more insistent as time went on. It was only yesterday that they had finally started attacking the Arboretum directly, and while the first wave had been instantly mowed down by row up row of pistol-wielding bushes, the next wave had come, and the next. A never ending tide of human flesh, throwing themselves towards their own destruction. But why did they stop? She mused. The hordes had been drawing steadily closer to the center of the Arboretum, forcing Cornucopia back to her dwelling, and then suddenly they'd all stopped, twitching. She had taken advantage of the distraction to slaughter all those she could see, but then no further waves of them had come. The rest of the night had passed without issue, finally, the sun had risen, a clear, bright day. Cornucopia's wounds had begun healing over at an accelerated rate until finally her skin was smooth and unblemished once again, aside from the smatterings of blood. Moving back inside the house, she saw one of her remaining servants, huddled in a corner, a metal poker held before him defensively, sweat staining the formal suit he was wearing. "Be a dear and run me a bath would you?" She said quietly. "It's been a dreadful morning." The young man sat still, eyes still wide in panic, not seeming to understand what she was saying. He lowered the poker slightly and began looking around furtively, keeping his form as small as possible. Cornucopia sighed and raised one, lofty finger to point outside. "They are all dead or gone, I have some peace at last, and for me to enjoy that peace I need to rid myself of... this." She gestured towards the filth and gore staining her clothes and skin. "So please, a bath?" Without waiting for an answer she moved towards the bathroom, standing in front of the mirror and examining her own features. Dark circles lay under her eyes, her hair was a mess, and the earth that usually stained her clothes and hands was completely covered by blood and pieces of meat. With disgust she flicked one piece off and then began changing to a bathrobe and poured some water onto her face, ridding herself of the worst of it. A sudden, sharp pain sprung in her shoulder. She spun around to see the same frightened servant, eyes confused and harried, looking at her in panic. The poker he had been holding clattered out of his hands with the force of her spin. She sent a rush of power towards the boys stomach, finding a small seed from a lemon he must have eaten last night, the seed quickly began swelling, unfurling inside of him, spreading roots through his body. In a moment the boy coughed, spattering her in a fresh coat of blood as his innards were torn apart, a bloodied root system began emerging from his abdomen. The lower half of his body fell to the ground, limp, but his torso was now held stiffly in place as a thick woody trunk began to grow inside of it, eventually bursing his neck open as the tree began forming in earnest. Plucking a small, withered, and oddly red-colored lemon from the tree, Cornucopia kicked what remained of the body to one side and began moving to the outside. She needed sunlight, she needed to heal. The house could be replaced later if she required. Rushing out the front door she collapsed onto the ground, eyes closed, she moved the robe from her shoulder to expose as much skin as possible to the sunlight. She felt the pain soothe, the wound, slowly beginning to draw itself shut. Just in time for Jenna, the only other of her servants to catch her in the stomach with a kitchen knife. "We need her back." The woman choked out. "Ever since she left everythings been... we need her back, I need it back." Jenna continued hacking into Cornucopia's body, inflicting damage faster than it was healing. A loud bang echoed from among the trees as one turned its branch, aimed a pistol and fired. Jenna's body collapsed ontop of Cornucopia, the blood of both bodies mingling slowly on top of her. Weakly, Cornucopia managed to push the body off of her, pulling out a mobile she dialed a number. "Rainmaker, my Queen, I nee-" A violent cough racked her body, unable to fully heal wounds this powerful without a stronger source of sunlight. "Cornucopia, in the Arboretum... need.. light." The phone fell from her hands and she lay on her back, dress torn apart, wounds closing but not fast enough to replace the blood she was losing. The Arboretum rustled as every plant within a mile of her began shifting, branches waving as though in sympathy of her pain. "Hush now." Cornucopia crooned. "Soon she will bring the light, and we can all bathe in its warmth." She closed her eyes, feeling the gentle breeze from the plants, the soft dappling of light on her skin as clouds passed in front of the- Her eyes lazily opened. "Clouds?" Looking into the sky she saw small wisps of white forming, thickening into grey. Passing in front of the sun. Cutting off her light. "Not rain. Need sun." She muttered. The clouds continued to thicken, all of them blocking the light. All of them forming solely over the Arboretum. Her watery eyes began to fill with a red haze as she realized what was happening. "No. No, you need me." She said, clutching at her stomach, her voice cracked as she began screaming into the clouds. "I provide for you! I provide for all! All the worthless people in that city live at my whim! Food, water, power, weapons. All of it is ME!" The thick cloud cover blocked the last rays of sunlight reaching her body. Cornucopia stared blankly into the clouds. Why? Why was this happening? What reason could Rainmaker possibly have? Summoning what little willpower she had left, she clutched at her stomach, feeling her blood seeping out, watering the surrounding plants with her own life. "It doesn't matter." She said, hanging her head down. Droplets of rain began to fall, wetting her hair, straightening the few curls that remained, plastering it all to her head and the sides of her face. One tear from each eye joined the falling droplets of water. "Fine. If our alliance ends, then let it end." She raised her head, staring at the plants that drank in the water from the clouds. "Children. It's time." She said. In contrast to her softly spoken words, the burst of power she sent into the ground was anything but soft. A harsh, violent burst flooded the surrounding greenery, some plants began groaning under the force of her command. And deep under the earth, a complex network of roots began constricting, pulling themselves tighter. Tighter around the triggers they held. Laying back down, Cornucopia tilted her head to the side, taking in one last view of her garden. "Beautiful." The ground beneath her, the forest around the Arboretum, and the streets of the cities of Corvallis. All heaved upwards as countless millions of explosives detonated from beneath them.

Here are my thoughts.

When you spend your five-hour drive theorizing about what would happen if highstorms showed up on Earth. Not any type of spren or Shards or anything, just the storms. I mean, pretty much everything would be wiped out within the first few occurrences. Plants would be blown away, all the soil on this storming planet would end up in the ocean, human life would pretty much be over unless we moved underground or something. All the farming would have to be indoors since polyps don't exist here and it would take a few million years for them to evolve on their own. Also, completely unrelated but it's midnight, you know you're in geometry when you her "pecan" pronounced with a southern accent and think "Ha! Secant." Back on topic, when you immediately think of Rock when anyone starts a sentence with "Ha!"

The Emperor's Soul:

Because this is the closest I'll ever get to skill at art, I present to you good people of the shard... Stormlight Archive, as told by legos! (only characters right now, I may do some other things in the future... In order: Szeth - (assassin in white), Blackthorn, Eshonai, Elhokar, Sadeas - (grandbow), Shallan, Kaladin - (Radiant), Renarin - (bonding a Blade), Renarin - (Radiant). I just realized these belong in a gallery, all my new ones will be there

And then a little later So it's pretty clear to me that she is still in envoyform, stays in envoyform, and the only difference is she can hear either old or new Rhythms and make her eyes red at will, except when she's holding stormlight.

Granted, but this shocking development upends the social order, so that it and I Burn as every thing crumbles and we watch the world Ignite. All Things Must Die as It’s My Turn to face societal collapse. The panic this causes sends people dashing around madly as though they drank too much Caffeine. Nothing is spared by the flames, destroying every Home, not even sparing so much as a Bmblb. Unearthly fires, a true Lusus Naturae, only act as a Bad Luck Charm to those who can’t escape, the heat of the blaze burning Red Like Roses as our planet is Sacrificed to meet the needs of dating. Your bane is that you have the deaths of millions and the collapse of the world as you know it on your conscience (as well as all those incredibly forced puns) but at least dating works now. I wish final exams didn’t exist.

I really hesitated about jumping into this, seeing how contentious it has been, which, unfortunately is what I expected from any thread relating to Adolin. The last thing I am looking to do is stir the pot again but I do want to offer a perspective from the other side. Adolin is not my favorite character. Prior to OB I would say I was probably mostly positive to neutral about him but OB didn’t do his character any favors in my view. If Adolin were a person, I’m sure I would like him. As Kaladin says, you almost have to like him. But as a character he leaves some important things to be desired. That may change for me, depending on where his character goes from here and what his overall purpose in the narrative ends up being, but for now my feelings have swung more negative. The problem I have observed though is often there are reactions to any criticism of Adolin that seem over the top, that exaggerate what is being said or seem to take the criticism of Adolin personally. To the point where I have extreme trepidation about posting this. But from my perspective it’s not just one side that leads to escalation of tensions. If someone offers some criticism or disagreement and then it is overreacted to it seems to easily escalate from there, but often it feels like an overreaction to reasonable criticism is where it starts. You’ve used some extremely strong words to describe criticism of Adolin. To be honest, a lot of the words you used feel like an exaggeration and are the kinds of things that could lead to an escalation of tensions (sheer hatred, Adolin-bashing, spewing poison). To be clear, I know you weren’t directing that at me and this is the first time I have even posted in this thread, but this just illustrates why I haven’t. But I do want to be able to disagree with an Adolin theory or offer some criticism of his character without being accused of such things (or even just responded to as if I had bashed him). And honestly, though I may not do this myself, if someone wants to “bash” Adolin, I have a hard time understanding why that is taken so personally. As long as it isn’t turned around on the person holding a different opinion, I don’t see why all opinions on a character shouldn’t be welcome in an open topic.

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