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I suspect no one else here address the fact that Brandon introduced two kids characters and tied both to Kaladin in the Oathbringer. Its Oroden and Gavinor. Oroden is Kaladin's new brother and another reason to protect the humanity. Gavinor is Elhokar's son, and thats really interesting hook for a new plot line. Elhokar basically passed everything he cared about to Kaladin. And its really symbolic that Kaladin's men brought Gavinor to Kaladin. To safety. Now, i dont expect much development for Kaladin-Mentor-Brother-Father Fighure plot line in Book 4 but i definitely expect Kaladin to become the father figure for Gavinor in the following books. And that will bring so much juicy stuff revolving the throne, Jasnah, ruling family and stuff. I find it interesting because 1) Its exciting to see will Brandon gave some papa-wolf scenes for Kaladin; 2) Its interesting to see what roles both Gavinor and Oroden will play in Kaladin's character development and life beyond being just an objects for him to defend; 3) Its interesting to see Oroden and Gavinor dynamic in the back 5 books. I suspect they are similar in age, both of them most likely will be tied to Kaladin, and it would be interesting to see their dynamic given they have such a badass brother/"father figure".

From Mraize's letter, we know: And then back in the prologue of Oathbringer, we have: So, the prologue meeting that Eshonai stumbles into appears to be a Sons of Honor meeting between Gavilar and Amaram and four others (one soldier, two fine ladies, and one old man in robes), where no guards were even at the door, presumably because they wanted a very secretive meeting where even guards were not allowed to listen in. My question is, who are the four others? Restares, perhaps Taravangian The old man in robes appears to be Restares. Amaram writes in a spanreed to Restares (WoR Page 1059), saying, "It has ever been our burden as the Sons of Honor." Amaram had also presumably consulted with Restares via spanreed when deciding slaughter his own men so that he could steal Kal's Shardblade: "Restares is right— this is what must be done. For the good of Alethkar.” (WoK, Page 703) Restares is only mentioned in three places over all three books: as one of three of Gavilar's suspects during his assassination (WoK prologue), when Amaram slaughters Kal's men (WoK), and when Amaram writes to Restares via spanreed (WoR). The Stormlight Archive Wiki states that Restares is an Alethi brightlord, but I'm not sure that we know this even though Amaram implies that Restares said the theft of the Shardblade was for the good of Alethkar. We never hear anything of Restares at all, which knowing Sanderson makes me suspect that Restares is a fake name given how often he gives other names to characters - Heralds like Darkness, Ash, Ahu, and Tezim or the five Scholars - to obfuscate their true identities. I wonder if Restares is not in fact Taravangian or some other old dude we know well. In Oathbringer (Page 242), Dalinar tells us that he had met Mr. T before "his strange illness five years ago." And then the strongest evidence that Taravangian is Restares and a Son of Honor is this quote from WoR: After Gavilar's death and access to the visions ended, Mr. T seeks the Nightwatcher, asking that he be the one to unite them, which led to the Diagram. I will leave all discussion of the Diagram to other wonderful threads, though it does seem that followers of the Diagram and Sons of Honor diverge a bit. However, keeping his position in the Sons of Honor (if he is Restares) would be a brilliant way to keep the information flowing from surviving allies there. Torol and Ialai Sadeas Torol Sadeas is undeniably close to Gavilar, willing to sacrifice his life for Gavilar's own during the assassination attempt and always 100% loyal to Gavilar despite the fact that, following Gavilar's death, he's tried his best to undermine and even kill Dalinar at every possible step. Why the difference? Apparently, Torol was privy to secrets about Gavilar's true, ruthless and Machiavellian nature - secrets of which Dalinar and Elohkar and even Jasnah apparently had no inkling. How is that possible? What secrets did he know? And wouldn't we peg Torol as Gavilar's closest and most trusted companion outside of family? Didn't Torol do all of the politicking with Gavilar when Dalinar refused? So to me, it makes enormous sense that Torol was a Son of Honor, sharing the same ruthlessness and Machiavellian approaches as Gavilar and Taravangian and Amaram. In fact, Meridas was likely recruited by Torol, as was Ialai. Just like House of Cards, Torol and Ialai are playing this game together, 100%. So my thoughts are that Torol actually dressed in his soldier attire for the signing of the treaty with the Parshendi (hence he and Amaram make the two soldiers), and Ialai is one of the two women in long dresses. So the other woman could be... Aesudan We see Gavilar pushing Jasnah into Amaram's arms. Obviously, Gavilar wants to keep the Sons in the family. And Aesudan tells El in OB that his father was ever so much better than he was: Aesudan knows of one (but perhaps not the other) of Gavilar's spheres, and she seems to have continued trapping more bad spren, going even a step further by bonding. But how was she privy to Gavilar's grand plans? How did she know of his father's work and his ancient (evil) spren? I'm thinking that was because she was one of the lady Sons. Yet again, we see the same ruthless, Machiavellian nature in Aesudan as we do in Gavilar, Amaram, Torol, Ialai, and Taravangian. They all fit beautifully together.

Preface: Someone correct me if I'm breaking any rules here, as I just made my account a couple hours ago. I posted this theory on a King T discussion thread, but I'm thinking that it was a little off topic since that discussion was about T as a character and this is a theory about the Diagram. So pardon my ignorance if this is a breach of etiquette! Theory: The Diagram is Fake I think the Diagram itself is part of the subterfuge. As others have pointed out, the original concept of "make a deal to protect my kingdom, then become king of everything" is so simple, that I believe Odium was meant to see through it. In order for the bluff to work though, you have to make it look like you're trying, hence the takeover of JKeved. If T was so brilliant when he made the Diagram, then it stands to reason that he was smart enough to realize that Odium would be able to read/interpret it. That is the entire point. It is a classic misdirection, just on a grand scale. It's all meant to bait Odium into certain actions, presumably to put Him in a position to be vulnerable. It also stands to reason that genius T knew that Odium would never negotiate on one of T's smart days. So why put in the "negotiate from a position of strength" line? It's part of the misdirection. If Odium is confident that T and the Diagram are not a threat, then He is much more likely to let his guard down. T is playing the Severus Snape role. We are going to hate him for a long time and he is going to do some awful things. In the end though, it will be his actions that ultimately make Odium vulnerable to be defeated by someone else. Basically, I just don't accept the narrative of "Odium saw through the Diagram, therefore it is moot and T is now a traitor." Genius T knew that would happen and planned for it

Well, Dalinar did catch an Unmade (in a ruby no less). I'd say Dalinar got a major upgrade on all fronts

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He also did grab two realms and slam them into another. Next book he'll have to get hold of the Cosmere somehow.

It could be, but to remain free Dalinar would need to commit troups and Radiants to protecting an isolated piece of land with no real value and too far from the Oathgates, i have trouble seeing that happening. I also don't think the Voidbringers would ignore a weak southern Alethkar to go push into the contested territories. The safe bet is that by the next book the country will have been fully occupied and the Alethi will be supporting Herdaz and pushing into the Sadeas lands, opening the way for our proto-Highprince to spearhead the liberation efforts (once the Windrunners work out their moral dilemma anyway).

Seven swans to rule them all, Six geese to find them, Five gold rings to bring them all, and in the pear tree bind them

I'M GOING TO BE AN UNCLE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Kaladin taking charge of Sadeas' army, as either High Prince or just their commander would be a great story line For book 4. There was a brief reference to how Sadeas kept his army structured through competition, and that they were falling apart without him. Then at the end of the battle some fled with the army but some were dazed and defeated. I love the idea of this group, who had once despised Kaladin and his bridge crew, train under him and learn to follow him.

I think you’re right about the Diagram being a misdirection, but I think it’s fooled Taravangian too. The diagram comes totally from Cultivation, and she’s going to use it to take down Odium, all while mr T thinks he’s doing everything for Odium.

So we know that Renarin seems to have a special place in the Diagram, and Odium is unable to see his part in it. I can see two possible reasons for this, that might be inter-related. 1. His ability to see the future as Odium sees it changes the future. We know that Renarin seems to have his future seeing ability through Glys' corruption. Presumably (given that both Renarin and Odium incorrectly see Dalinar fall) the future he sees is the same future that Odium has predicted. But this knowledge changes things. For example, Jasnah is set to kill Renarin when he turns around and nods, knowing what she will do and accepting it. That act prompts her to stop. By knowing a future he ended up preventing it. It will be interesting to see if he will start using this information consciously, working against Odium by using his own assumptions about the future against him. 2. He is Like an anti-Odium In the scene "A small bottle" Dalinar reflects that he can't understand why his sons don't hate him. This is particularly striking for Renarin given that we have seen ample evidence of Dalinar' lack of love towards his youngest up to this point. Yet he doesn't hate him, instead he shows extrodinary love and empathy. It may be that Renarin is so different from Odium that he either slips under the radar or Odium simply can't predict his actions because they are so alien to his nature. Curious to hear other theories.

So much yes. Even though I don't know how likely it would be now.

I was at the Oathbringer reading in Beaverton, and I got to ask Brandon a question from the audience, I had a spoiler free question ready: With enough breaths and given the proper command, could an awakened toupee be commanded to behave like real hair, and would it believable. Brandon said yes, that should work. I then asked would if it be able to respond to different conditions, like a strong breeze and still be believable as real hair, and he said yes it would. Then I asked if a toupee could be awakened and given the command to protect, and he said yes but that would be weird. So I did this little sketch of what could possibly be the best thing to happen to the Cosmere since Kelsier punched god in the afterlife: Nightwig, a fully awakened toupee, given the command to "Live Beautifully, and Fix Ugly".

I just finished the part in my re-read where Dalinar gifts Kaladin his own land, land that has towns in it. I haven't seen this discussed, so how do you guys think this is going to play out? I think it would make for a nice side arc in book 4 and 5 with Kaladin setting up his land and trying to protect his people. I assume he will also relocate Hearthstone to his lands and it'll be interesting to see what happens with Roshone. I think it'll also be interesting to see how the land will look when book 6 comes out after a in-world time jump of 10-15 year. See how he's developed the land and how his people think of him. Highprince Kaladin anyone? Some random and wildly speculative ideas on what can happen with the land: Kaladin leaves the day to day operations to his parents, a step forward in equality between light eyes and dark eyes. Kaladin swearing the 4th Ideal in order to protect the people of the land. Get's turned into a backup HQ for the Windrunners. Kaladin is given leave to move the village of Hearthstone to his know lands, but he can't force anyone. His parents and brother go, but Laral and Roshone stay behind. Kaladin get's tips on how run his land from Highprince Adolin, resulting in expected and enjoyable banter. Odium gives up on trying to make Dalinar his champion. Instead he focuses on Kaladin and uses his land and people to manipulate him. Kaladin gives his lands to Adolin and the Kholin princedom. And last, but not least, Kaladin realizing that he'd make a right spiffy Highprince, uses his land to politically and militarily maneuver House Sadeas and take over his princedom.

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On the one year time skip, I feel pretty confident that it won't be as bad as your fear @Humming and Brandon won't be using it to resolve conflicts off screen, I believe he is a better writer than that. I like @DimChatz's idea about it being a good reason for why Shadolin are not in a lovey honeymoon phase when we return. All excellent points which makes me realize I was not thinking about this nearly carefully enough. Some of these I haven't read (I've read all of Mistborn era 1 but only Allow of Law in Mistborn era 2 - I need to finish that one and also get to Warbreaker) but in particular I was forgetting about one of these (see below) which as you pointed out is a great example. It seems such a waste to have Kaladin just be a very brief conflict for Shadolin (and barely that) which is one of my issues with how this was written if it really does end there. Merry Christmas for those who celebrate!

I love this idea, although whether or not Kaladin ends up in that role to Gavinor or not remains to be seen. Yes, it was Bridge 4 that rescued Gavinor and presented him to Kaladin, but Dalinar and Navani will likely end up raising him, considering his role as the heir- newlyweds and already thrust into parenthood? Not that they haven't been parents before, but never together. Or will is be Jasnah? She's the new monarch, but it could well be that they keep Gavinor as they heir afterwards, or at least a potential heir. Considering Jasnah has thusfar not shown much interest in love and children, it's likely Gavinor could still end up king one day. If Jasnah has to be a mother, suddenly, that could affect her character development greatly. I could see Kaladin as a bodyguard. Or perhaps Oroden is he follows in his brother's footsteps one day? After all, we don't know who will survive the first 5 books to make it past the 10-15 year gap. Regarding Oroden and Gavinor, it depends on how Oroden grows - will he be a surgeon? a fighter? both like Kaladin? neither? A surgebinder or no? Will he grow up nearby, or with Kaladin's father be stubborn and they end up not moving to Urithiru after all? I would like to see their interactions though, so hopefully they get placed together. They both have shoes to fill, albeit very different ones.

The last point is completely correct, and therefore Lift would not generate heat if she did increase the force of friction. Heat is created by friction by transferring the kinetic energy of an object into heat; if Lift walked up a wall by increasing the static frictional force, her feet would not be sliding down the wall. Instead, they would be pushing down at an angle against the wall, while the frictional force would be pushing up with an equal force, allowing her to remain on the wall. However, it would be incredibly hard to do this while remaining on balance, so I doubt that Lift would be using this method. She is just grabbing onto Wyndle (due to her being more in the Cognitive Realm) and pulling herself up. Being a physics nerd, I'm wondering how Lift goes about increasing/decreasing the force of friction acting upon an object so she could climb or slide. I know that there are two ways she could go about doing this: either by varying the normal force between her and the object, or by changing the coefficient of friction of a surface. I'm more inclined towards the second way, but I think the first way is plausible. What do you all think?

This idea is almost certainly wrong, but it is fascinating enough that I'm going to share it anyway. Szeth could swear one of his ideals as "I will DESTROY EVIL", forming a three-way bond between him, his Highspren, and Nightblood. Our favorite bloodthirsty sword begins to change as a result of the new bond, gaining the ability to comprehend its purpose for the first time in its existence. Some of the directions this could go include: Nightblood deciding its mission is to destroy the biggest source of evil around, a.k.a. Odium. Nightblood falling into paralysis as it realizes how hard ethics can be and is unable to discern evil. Nightblood having a mental crisis where it questions if it is evil. Nightblood defecting to the Singer cause. Nightblood deciding to allow its wielder to determine evil for it. I know, crazy headcannon. But . . . I want to see Nightblood evolve and wrestle with morality. I think that might be what I'm supposed to want, in which case this could go somewhere.

I need a Book 4 to even say this. Both of them shared the single one dialogue in the whole 1200 pages book if I'm not mistaken. Jasnah also mentioned him couple times but curiously without even knowing him. Kaladin on other hand didn't mention her at all. So their relation were explored the least in Oathbringer. I guess we will learn much more. I honestly wonder will Gavinor be someone Kaladin and new High Queen will break the spears around. I find it kinda symbolic that it was Kaladin people who brought Elhokar's son to Kaladin. And it was Elhokar who basically pass all he cared about to Kaladin. I would like to see Kaladin showing some father-like attachment to Elhokar's legacy and Jasnah trying to do something about it.

@SLNC @Ailvara its done) I hope some of you twitted the link to Brandon as i did. The more people will twit him that summary, the higher chance he will read it.

Wow. I was gonna make a post, but you basically read my mind and posted all my thoughts way more eloquently than I was going to. I would like to say, however, that I really don't like the idea of either Jasnah or Kaladin being in a romantic relationship. I don't think Jasnah would be in one because, from what we've seen of her so far, she reads as very asexual to me (though she could be in a romantic relationship, there just wouldn't be any sex). As for Kaladin, I think he still has lots of growing to do before he's ready for a romantic relationship.

From a purely academical and superficial perspective, I can't argue this logic. The single greatest predictor of a compatible match is similarity. This is only one of many aspects in which a similarity may be ascertained though. It may be as easily said that Kaladin and Jasnah are similar because they both seek the end goal of defeating the desolation. However, I don't see Jasnah as the stay at home and make baby type that the culture of Alethkar would demand if she took a husband. It might be interesting to see her reject that dynamic after making a match, but it would be as interesting to see her reject it by not making a match to begin with. I personally see Jasnah as primarily asexual. She has not indicated any sexual preference for either gender so far in her depiction. There is nothing wrong with choosing not to engage in romantic pursuits if she is not drawn to them. There is similarly nothing wrong with her engaging in a marriage of convenience and producing an heir if she chooses it. It would only be sad for Jasnah if she chose to do it despite her own goals and desires. I feel as if in some of the depictions Jasnah would want the opportunity to raise someone from birth. She feels a sense of failure about her inability to influence her wards, and I can't help but think she would be more invested and suited to the task if she had responsibility before the wardship. In summary, I think it matters less who a person Jasnah is romantically linked to, and more the consequences of any such attachment. I see Jasnah as being more capable of genuine affection for her child than for her partner. And there is nothing wrong with that.

I honestly don't really get why people seem to expect a more dramatic response - almost every real country exists on land that was taken from someone else at some point if you go back far enough - recent cases like Turkey, Hungary, and the United States are just easier to point out. The vast majority of (real) people have no significant problem with this fact - certainly not enough of a problem to commit murder over - and I'm not sure why Roshar would be any different. Was it? I was under the impression that the Radiants were more perturbed by their God promising that they would destroy the world (again) with their Surgebinding than anything else, given that Radiants had apparently discovered the origins of man on multiple previous occasions without Recreance-ing. And besides, this is a Brandon Sanderson story. There's always another secret. We'll probably discover in book 4 or 5 that Odium was running some kind of psyop to get them to break their oaths, then in book 9 we'll find out that it was actually a false flag operation by Cultivation and blamed on Odium so he and Honor would weaken each other and allow her to take over. Or something. I think it was something to the tune of "You maniacs, you blew it all up", but I could be wrong on that. We don't know; Mraize said in his letter explaining what happened to Shallan's brother that he didn't know.

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Okay so I was so shocked at how poorly the romance was handled in this book that I finally went and made myself an account to join the discussion, so hello everyone . I know I'm also very late to the party but I just finished the book yesterday (shipping to Poland took a while...). Anyway, if anyone's interested, here are my problems with this, in my opinion, awful love triangle: 1. It's so similar to what Sanderson has done in Mistborn and while I didn't like that one, I think it was still a lot better that what we got in Oathbringer. It goes like this: a woman is having problems with her self-esteem and herself in general, which causes her to swift towards the more "adventorous" man as opposed to the one that gives her stabilisation. When she's just about to choose the former, BANG! She has a realisation! Oh how stupid I was! And she comes running to the safe option and the whole relationship is now magically perfect despite having tons of problems just 5 pages ago. Except in Mistborn Adolin and Shallan are just in the process of getting to know each other and most of their interactions is well, tee-heeing, not anything deeper. Which brings me to my next point. 2. The supposed reason why Shallan chooses Adolin is the most absurd one Sanderson could have come up with. If it was something like "Adolin makes me happy" than ok, I might have been able to understand that because it actually makes sense. But Adolin knows me? Sorry, did I miss something other that your interactions being mailny... flirting? There are two scenes I believe where they actually talk about something deeper and both made me roll my eyes. One is in Shadesmar and it is basically: "-Adolin, I have many personalities u kno -Shallan, that is weird. Also, I killed Sadeas -Oh I guess that's ok" The other being the one when she actually chooses him and it is even worse: "-Hello Adolin why so gloom -U like Kaladin -Well yeah. But I like u more cause u make me face my problems by saying "Shallan, no" in one deeper interaction in the entire book. So let's ignore that problem and get married -Oh ok" There is nothing either in WoR or Oathbringer that indicates he knows her, on the contrary, based on the interactions in both books the knowing her argument would be the one Shalladin shippers would use the most because we have actually been given scenes with deep interactions between the two. So why make that the reason why she goes for Adolin? 3. The scene between her and Adolin that I already mentioned above, when she chooses him. She says she likes Adolin because he makes her face her problems... again, where. Yes, he isn't comfortable with her having multiple personalities but where does he actually help her face the problem? By becoming drinking buddies with Veil and "somehow making it work"? This isn't you two having different tastes about furniture, this is a woman having different personalities take over her, it isn't just a thing one can compromise on. She needs actual help. The joke about how "every man wishes to have three brides u know" was so wrong, my god... Also the scene between Kaladin and Shallan on the ship where he tells her that "Wow, you're just able to stuff it in the back of your head? I wish I could do that" and that is obviously used as an argument against him because that is supposed to mean that he doesn't make her face her problems like Adolin supposedly does. But he only gets told that she's able to shove the emotions away while to Adolin, in her moment of confusion between the personalities, she tells that she's shifting between a couple of people. It's just so unfair to Kaladin's character to imply that he wouldn't help her with a problem like this where the only thing he has done the entire three books is trying to help people. But I digress. 4. The interactions between Shallan and Adolin after she chooses him. What... what is that? I've seen people defending it by saying "oh, it is how young people act, it is supposed to be written that way. you know- young love" and I've seen this argument brought up especially with the "You're beautiful" scene. I'm sorry, but I could defend the whole Twilight saga by using this argument. I'm about their age actually and I have not seen people act this stupid around each other. It's like the whole book we are given a relationship that is ok at most and then suddenly she goes "Adolin knows me" and she is now so crazy about him that the only thing she can think about is their wedding night? And then there's the whole Veil drinking buddy thing... just...no. There are many other problems I have with this but other people have covered those aspects pretty well so I'll briefly mention them: the pacing was awful, the conclusion was rushed and the "gurll arranged marriage is awesome" got old - I'm a woman myself and for the love of god Brandon please stop doing that. The only thing I can say I liked about it was Kaladin's reason for liking her - that she reminded him of Tien because she could just laugh despite the world crushing on her. That actually makes sense. If it was written more from his perspective, with him pursuing her and then realizing that he likes her because of this and then stepping back and also her having a more meaningfull relationship with Adolin along with realizing that she need stability... in my opinion it would've been so much better. I've seen many people saying that it was supposed to be that bad because Sanderson is not done with this relationship but I think I'll be the sceptical one and say that yes he is, and while he is one of my favourite writers I have to say that my theory about the whole thing is simply this: he has written it poorly and now we're stuck with it. That said if in the next book Shallan's POV starts with something like "Shallan was holding little Plotdevolin in her arms, thinking just how lucky she was. These days, Veil and Radiant have completely retreated." I think I'll go ahead and visit the Nightcrawler to ask to please remove all of Shallan's chapters from my memory.

Read what you just wrote. Then, think about what Ash has been doing the entire series thus far...

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Quick theory: Mr. T is actually Kelsier and also a Kandra. After the events with South Scadrial, he realized that to save his planet, he needed to prevent Odium from escaping his imprisonment, so he used Hemalurgy to transfer cognitive shadow into a Mistwrath, becoming a Kandra, then worldhopped to Roshar, killed the original Mr. T during his trip to the Nightwatcher, and took his place. He then created the Diagram as an elaborate series of contingent instructions to himself and removed the spikes containing key components of his memory, causing him to believe he really was Mr. T. His plan is to make the deal with Odium, meaning that Kharbranth will be unaffected by the Desolation. As the rest of Roshar is devastated, the value of real estate in the City of Bells will rise. As a loyal servant of Odium, Kelsier/Mr. T will advise Odium use leverage to invest in this growth market. However, Kel will have already begun engineering the sale of real estate to Thaylen investors overseas, triggering a asset valuation bubble. When the bubble bursts and Odium is left severely underwater, Kelsier will revel his true idenity, and that he'd bought up Odium's debts during the Kharbranth real estate crash. Rayse has no way of making the payments required, so Kelsier forecloses his Shard and Ascends. Again.

This is not confirmed at all. This is entirely supposition, which may or may not be correct. It is in part the assumption that this is true that made me want to post my devils advocacy.

Just having a conversation with myself really, but here is the rough Framework for the works in the Cosmotologyere: Wigbreaker (Major Characters: Lightsong the Bald, Brushweaver, Brusher (one of the first returned who invented such amazing endowed hair accessories as the self-flowbier, the topsy-tailer, and who made a lifeless out of shaving scum and hair mousse), and Nightwig of course. Yesteel and the Riddle of the Awakened Clippers (tentative title to book 2 of the Nightwig series, could also be called "Yesteel need a haircut?") The Highlights Archive (the major all inclusive series that ties all of the Cosmotologyere together) Book 1: The King of Ways (all about different ways to trim men's unwanted hair, a must read to understand the intricacies of the interconnectedness that is the Comsotologyere, and the first time you meet the master beautician Haired, he's like Paul Mitchell on Earth, his hair care products are on every planet in the Cosmotologyere) Book 2: Lots of Radiance (lots of descriptions about beautiful hair, its sheen, its glow, descriptions of it fluttering, etc. This book is notable for Kaladin's swearing of the 3rd ideal, "I will cut peoples hair, even if I hate the hair cut they want" when all of his cosmotology students want to get mullets and civil war mustaches). Book 3: Stachebringer (This is one is truly epic, Dalinar Kholin, the man with the most attractive mustache on all of Roshar, creates a perpendicularity when he bonds a mustache wax spren, and with one side of his mustache in the Cognitve Realm and the other side of his mustache in the spiritual realms, combines all 3 realms in a brilliant glowing mustache that everyone still agrees is the most attractive mustache on all of Roshar) Book 4: Pates Unhallowed (this one is the crossover novel where Nightwig really shines, or really decreases the shine as he is spends most of his time covering a lot of bald pates) Book 5: The Song of Permform (this one is all about how hard it is to give Parshendi perms) The back 5 haven't been outlined yet....

I think the most interesting plot line that Kaladin’s new holdings would be Kaladin using it to create a land where listeners unaffiliated with Odium and humans live side by side. Such a society, and the alternative it offers of breaking the Singers away from Odium, is the most likely path to true victory for the Good Guys that I can see.

I got a bridge 4 shirt

That would be amazing

He's trying to draw the distinction between "Lord" the title, and "Lord" the name. Since people only know him as the Lord Ruler, Lord may as well be his first name. It's a meaningless distinction, but that's par for the course on this site. Reread the quote. Conventical is the type of building. Conventical substitutes for Church in the sentence, not the religion. The religion name remains the same. Nonexistent in this case, since Seran is the location. Lockhart Baptist Church would become Lockhart Baptist Conventical. Church of Seran, Conventical of Seran. So @Belzedar, while his followup statement was incorrect, his logic was sound. Conventical would stand in for the word "Church," so it is less likely that the common people would know the latter term.

I am happy to see that I am not the only one who felt the ‘Asexual’ vibe from Jasnah. Seriously. As far as Jasnah and Kaladin’s compatibility otherwise, I think they will work very well together once Kaladin grows up a bit more. Kaladin has already been shown as an exceptionally intelligent person, and Jasnah respects that above almost everyhing else. I also think their personalities will play well off of each other. Kaladin being Firebrand passionate and Jasnah being carefully controlled emotion. I think that dynamic will be fun to see.

If Electrum was public knowledge, the tenous lie about the highter metals will become less credible. You Will have the proper pair to the gold and the Atium will remain the odditity in the table.

Probably the whole thing with atium not being one of sixteen metals at all. It doesn't match up with the pattern: Pulling | Pushing Internal your past | your future External other's future | other's past Both Pulling metals should deal with past (or future), but instead they do not, which breaks the pattern.

This one is for @RShara Shallan plodded through the alien landscape of Shadesmar. It was difficult for her to judge exactly how long she'd been in Shadesmar, it felt like a day, but who could even say if time flowed the same in this place. Jasnah had explained that Shadesmar was a realm of the collective thoughts of sapient beings made manifest. Did that mean if enough people thought time worked differently it changed in this place? Shallan was supposed to learn the secrets of this place, it was an essential aspect of her surge of transformation. Perhaps it was the blood from one of her earliest uses of it, but the very thought of taming shadesmar filled her with dread. Storms, what were the implications of that? I think it's bad, and its thought made manifest, did I just make this place more dangerous to myself? thought Shallan. Shallan was relieved when a small campfire became visible in the distance. The sooner this expedition was over, the better. She was supposed to be a newlywed for storms sake, and this was a far cry from the comfort of her husbands bed. As she drew closer to the campfire she was able to make out an assemblage of people in animated conversation around it. It was a very odd collection of individuals. Shallan had met people from all corners of Roshar since becoming a Radiant and taking up residence with the powerful of her world, but the clothing these people wore was quite bizarre in many cases, and of a style she had not seen before. A tall blonde woman in an elegant dress of an unknown cut stepped forward confidently as Shallan approached the assemblage. "Shallan Davar I presume? Welcome, you're the last to arrive. We'll be able to get started after the introductions. I must say, it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance, I've heard a lot about you." began the woman. "My name is Sarene. Princess Sarene actually, but then you're a Princess too now aren't you as are many of us, and I think we should dispense with the honorifics if we actually mean to get anything done here today. My colleague here is called Shai," she said, indicating a smaller, dark haired woman dressed in trousers and a loose shirt wearing spectacles. "or at least she is when she isn't pretending to be someone else. We're from Sel." continued Sarene. Shallan cast her eye over the rest of the group. Certainly a very odd group of people. Wait. Shallan recognised one of the members of the group, perhaps she hadn't noticed right away because she was feeling really quite overwhelmed. "We've met" said Shalash. "Don't even think about reaching for that sketching pad!" she continued in a no nonsense tone. Shallan immediately put any thought of doing so from her mind, there was no way she intended to confront the herald of her order of Knights Radiant. A second woman in the group drew her attention as well. There was a familiarity about her that Shallan had trouble placing. Like the others, this woman was elegantly dressed in a distinctly alien way, and as Shallan observed her she was shocked to see her hair change colour! "Welcome Shallan, my name is Siri." the woman said as she approached and embraced Shallan as though they weren't meeting for the first time. "I believe you know my sister? Tell me, is she still as full of herself as she used to be? You'll be able to tell, if she still behaves as if she has a second sword firmly lodged up her backside then she hasn't changed.". Shallan found herself smiling, this was a woman after her own heart, and her description of lady Azure wasn't far from Shallan's recollection. "This here is Shashara." she said indicating the woman standing next to her. Shashara was impossibly tall and beautiful, and her face was painted with a scowl that was almost physically painful. "Don't mind her. She's my sisters boyfriends wife who he killed. Yeah, it's confusing. Some kind of cosmeric shadowy ghosty thing. I'm not the best person to ask about that." Another woman approached Shallan and reached out to embrace her as she had seen Siri do, before seeming to change her mind mid embrace and instead try to shake Shallan's hand. The indecision didn't go well, the outcome had been that the woman had walked up to Shallan and grabbed her by the breast! The woman was clearly mortified at what she had done, and began fishing around in her handbag and pulled out a small notebook. "Oh dear." she said "Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. This wasn't on the list. How did that happen? What do I do? Apologise. I must apologise!" The woman looked up at Shallan, smoothed out her odd stiff backed and high necked dress and composed herself. "I apologise your highness. I'm not very good with people I'm afraid. My husband usually helps with these types of matters, but they said this was something my attributes were required for and he would just get in the way. My name is Steris, and I'm from Scadrial." An imposing woman stepped forward next, standing next to a small man with a meek expression. Odd thought Shallan. He seems to be the only man that was invited here. "Now that the introductions have been taken care of, I think it's time to move on to the business at hand. I am the Supreme Supervisor of the Silverlight Sodality for the Sensible and Sustainable Subsistence of S, and my friend here has approached us with a request." the woman said. "Go ahead Tom." "Ladieth" began Tom. "We need to dithcuth the exthethive uthe in the cothmere of the letter eth."

Shallan's struggles:

I am rereading Mistborn right now, and I got to this passage, where Vin burns one of Sazed's metalminds: I don't think we've fully grappled with what this means - using unkeyed metalminds, any Allomancer will be able to compound. That DRAMATICALLY increases the power of Mistings, provided they have access to unkeyed metalminds. Every gold Misting can compound healing, every steel Misting can compound speed, etc. Another important impact here is that it makes Allomancy a team sport. A Misting with the support of a powerful organization (perhaps the Set) would have a huge advantage over a Misting trying to operate on their own. It also makes previously useless Mistings useful all of a sudden, provided they can get the metalminds.

"Ashertman was here" should become a meme.

My vote is the Azish. While the Vogons are Adam's poke at beaurocracy, the Vogon captain does not complete the appropriate forms before ejecting Dent and Ford out of the airlock.