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Fun tip! If you're ever in an awkward situation with someone, say "Titanic." When they say "What?" Reply "Sorry, bad icebreaker."4 likes
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When the Last Admin is ready to bring balance to the Force, obviously.4 likes
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Copies of WoK and WoR should be here in the mail any day now, along with Legion. Thanks again, @The Queen Mother and @Kobold King!4 likes
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Wax would definitely be a Skybreaker.4 likes
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Brightlord Meridas, why are you always butting heads with Kaladin? Because I Am-a-ram. Why do they call him Gaz? Because his 'gaze' is incomplete! I think I've just joined a new Radiant order: the Groanmakers! We are bonded to punspren, and all our Ideals are horrible puns.4 likes
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Warning: worst pun ever Nightblood corrupts the breath of his victims, and then oozes it out as dark misty stuff. You could probly say that he has bad breath!3 likes
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This theory is that the phrase 'stones unhallowed' has more to do with the worldbuilding in Roshar than thought. There are many lines, moments and opinions in Stormlight that suggest there is a deep (time lost) ideology directing the Shin to not walk on Stones unhallowed. I can go through the book if necessary, though I'm sure the members here are familiar with them anyway. My theory here is that the stones that are 'hallowed' are a way for Odium to connect to individuals on Roshar, in much the same way that Ruin used spikes to impersonate/talk-to various mistborn ppls and used the non-metal prophesies to manipulate the world. This theory is that the Shin live on stones 'unhallowed' (and that this is an actual ancient truth), but Szeth as truthless was given a 'hallowed' stone and commanded to obey the holder. I believe this is a similar corruption (as Ruin) by Odium. This is what allows Odium into his head aka the screams in the darkness. we have a WoB that the screams are real (to him at least). Since he died, Szeth hasn't heard the screams (please check me on this, but make sure he wasn't on stone at the time). He believes it's because he died, but maybe it's because he gave up the stone. A lot of this is hidden in the history of Roshar and I believe Brandon will unveil it in coming pieces and tie it into the desolations in the same way as Mistborn. If you've read 'Mistborn the secret history; you'll have a good idea of what I'm thinking. I'll add one last thing here. The Shin have the honourblades. If kept anywhere, shouldn't the cosmic design arrange them to be held where Ati can't see them? (yes I know what I did there). The Stormfather fades in the Shin land, stones are unhallowed and they have the honourblades? Coincidence? Or design? (My theory is design from when the Heralds were sane).3 likes
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I've always assumed that 'Voidbringer' is a very large and diverse category of creatures, and that the Parshendi are just a small part of it. They're acting as the forerunners of the Desolation. Soon, though, hordes of more fantastical void-monsters will start crossing over from Braize. (or maybe Ashyn. Who knows?)3 likes
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"I do a lot of gardening, but you are the dirtiest hoe I've ever seen" - my robotics coach "Come, child. Roll down the hill. It is time." - friend "DEATH! DESTRUCTION! ENDLESS WOE! AND LOTS AND LOTS OF MOLDY CHEETOS!" - a different friend "Do you think you'll have time to vacuum your English homework" - my mom3 likes
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Day 5: Kittiesh! NNNOOOOO! Rin felt terrible for his part in yesterday’s events, even if it had been the right thing to do. It had been the right thing… right? His situation with Nicki had just spiraled further and further out of control as the days went on. He still remembered when she had first stepped into his shop, demanding pewter as if she would die without it. Then asking for metal spikes; with an extra heaping of potential violence if he didn’t accede. She hadn’t seemed like a bad person back then, just one full of passion. But as the days wore on and more people died, things began to change. Then she had brought that body back. Suddenly, her passion took on a more sinister aspect to it; until he just had to say something! That was the way such things were handled, right? So why then, did he still feel guilty? He sat in his shop, pondering and debating this back and forth in his head all night. His only companions a lantern for light and a cup of tea. Because of this, he was still awake when the person arrived. They entered through the front door, not even bothering at stealth. Rin looked up at them when the door clacked shut. “Ah, so I assume that it’s my turn then?” The figure nodded. “Very well then,” Rin said and he put the cup on the counter next to him. “I suppose this answers my question and now it’s time for me to do penance. Just- just please make it quick.” The figure nodded again and raised their hand in front of them. Sitting in their palm was a singular coin. Before Rin could blink, the coin zipped through the air and hit him in the forehead. The figure left as Rin’s body slumped to the floor, never saying a word. Matilda couldn’t even begin to believe her luck! Why, just the other day, she had been stumbling through one of the alleys, looking for one of her cats, Whiskey-ers (he was a cousin to Mr. Ale-ick Purrsnickles and Scotch-ish McFluffy Paws) when she happened to nudge something with her foot! When she bent down to investigate, she found a full coin pouch buried in the ash! “Oh, happy day Kittiesh! Shoon we’ll have all the kittiesh and we’ll shtart our own cat shan-chu-wary. An’ no one will bother ush again!” Thus it was a terribly drunk Matilda who stumbled through the streets later that night. Her hands were full of her “kittens” and they clanked and meowed together with each wavering step. She was so drunk, that she didn’t see the person sneaking up behind her, a dagger in their hand. They were almost on top of her when Matilda tripped on an uneven cobblestone (or it could’ve been perfectly flat, but Matilda thought of it as uneven for the rest of her days). *Swish!* The knife flew through the space where Matilda’s neck would’ve been just seconds before. As Matilda stumbled, she lost her grip on one of the bottles she was cradling. “Button Nose Rum-my!” She cried as she tried to catch the falling bottle. This caused her to bend down and again, *Swish!* The knife hit nothing. The bottle crashed against the ground and shattered. The alcohol inside turn the ash into a dark black paste. “Kittiesh! NNNOOOOO!” She crouched on the ground, the other bottles spilling from her arms, but luckily, not breaking. *Swish!* And this time, after being thwarted so many times, the person behind her cursed, finally alerting Matilda to their presence. “You!” Matilda cried as she pointed a gnarly, old finger at the person. She had tears running down her cheeks. “You did thish! You hurt my kittiesh! What’d they ever do to yoush?” She threw an empty bottle at her assailant. “Leave my kittiesh alone, you nashty evil pershon, you!” The figure dodge the bottle with ease, but the commotion was causing other people to stir and soon enough, there would likely be more eyes than they were comfortable with watching the scene. So as Matilda cried in the streets, her attacker fled. Night 5 has ended and Day 5 begins! You have 48 hours. Doc12 was attacked! They were a Regular Villager. Madagascar was attacked but survived! Good luck! Player List3 likes
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Lightsong: Windrunner--he died protecting those who could not protect themselves. Twice. Raoden: Bondsmith--he manages to unite Elantris under his rule and help them to overcome the Shaod. Kelsier: Dustbringer--agent of "divine" destruction.3 likes
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Hold the secret that broke the Knights Radiant. You may need it to destroy the new orders when they return. - WOR Chapter 84 epigraph (decoded) Now, as the Windrunners were thus engaged, arose the event which has hitherto been referenced: namely, that discovery of some wicked thing of eminence -- WOR Chapter 38 epigraph These epigraphs strongly imply that the Recreance was precipitated by the KR discovering some terrible fact. It doesn't seem to have been tied to any corruption that may have crept in to the Orders (the taxes for travel through Urithiru, etc.) Now, here's something anomalous. The Desolations devastated Roshar, killing something like 90 percent of the human population and knocking technology back to the stone age, at least sometimes. Yet when Honor was Splintered (after the Recreance -- he remembers it in the visions) there seems to have been no such cataclysm. Aharietiam is still seen as "the Last Desolation", which it wouldn't be if another apocalyptic event had occurred since the Recreance. Similarly, Odium Splintered Devotion and Dominion on Sel. But humanity on that planet survived; he didn't destroy the planet, depopulate it, or warp it into some kind of a hellscape. So why the devastating, lethal Desolations on Roshar before the Recreance? Because humans were fighting on Honor's side. Odium doesn't really care about killing humans, except incidentally to getting at the Shards; nothing much below the power-level of a Herald registers on his "radar screen" Therefore, my proposal for the Secret That Broke The KR is: Honor's been feeding us into a meat grinder for thousands of years to protect Cultivation and a couple of alien gods we'll never see. If we let Odium win, nothing bad really happens to humanity. Honor betrayed us. Our spren have been in on it, all along - they're pieces of Honor. So let him die.2 likes
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Based on the recent WoB that the Heralds are a form of Cognitive Shadow, is it possible that their Honorblades are a form of Hemalurgic spike? Not in the sense we've seen before in Mistborn, but something using similar principals to reattach their thread to the Physical Realm? My basic thought is that when the Heralds die, they actually die, but because they're so Invested, they don't vanish into the Beyond, or whatever it's called, but stick around in the Cognitive Realm on Braize. Here their Cognitive Shadows are tortured, but they suffer no physical damage, similar to when Hoid beat up Kel in SH. Eventually, they all return to Roshar using their Honorblades to re-attach themselves to a physical body. This might explain why the Honorblades vanish when the Herald dies, since it's bound to their soul.2 likes
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That could also help, but it wouldn't confirm Arinian. It's possible that if he was Spiked, he would decide that the trust that he got from bussing a teammate would be worth the loss of said teammate. Aman did that in LG17. It backfired on him, but the fact is that he still did it. EDIT: Nicki’s eyes fluttered open. What… what had happened? Where was she? She looked around, but only saw rooftops floating on a bed of pink mist. The sun was almost up. She reached out to touch a curl of mist, but it shied away from her. Nicki’s arm flopped back onto the ground. Nicki groaned and sat up. Her chest throbbed. She looked down and saw a few inches of gleaming spike protruding from her chest. Right. So she was still alive. Nicki gingerly felt at her chest and hissed in pain when a finger brushed the skin around the spike. Somehow, it hurt even through her pewter. Nicki caught sight of a silhouette standing near her. The Terrisman! She kicked at its legs and it grunted. She took advantage of the pause to scramble to her feet. Nicki punched the figure in the face. Then she grabbed its shoulder and brought its torso down onto her knees. It shrieked in pain. Nicki turned and shoved down onto its neck until it hit the ground. She pinned its arms and leaned over towards its ear. “Take your book back,” she said. “Tell your master that he’s not getting my spike. If he wants to try, I’ll just have to kill whoever he sends.” Nicki stood up and stomped on the figure’s arm, which gave a satisfactory crunch under her boot. Let that be a lesson to the Terrisman. Nicki retrieved her clothes and put them on. They were a little tight around the spike, so she yanked down on the neckline. Then she ran off the edge of the roof and hit the ground running. She needed to find Rin again, so she could test out what metals she could burn now. Sorry Len. Cassius was an admirable citizen who got in the wrong place at the wrong time. Hero, does Herwynbe have Feruchemy? I'd be interested to see how a fight went between him and Nicki.2 likes
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That's... actually probably true, haha! Then maybe Brandon would actually come here.2 likes
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IS THOU INSULTING THE JA. YOU SHALL BE SMITED, AND THE SOUND OF YOUR DEATH WILL BE AS LOUD AS A THOUSAND KOLOSS SNORING. In all seriousness, why are you voting for me? The Luthadel Constitution guarantees the Freedom of Religion, you shouldn't lynch me just because of my religion choices. Besides, the Hero of Ages himself preached Jaism to none other than the survivor. If that isn't enough, I don't know what is.2 likes
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What's the major you are looking at? If you're looking for sciences and engineering then Montana State is far superior to University of Montana. (Not that I'm biased or anything...)2 likes
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That'sh a pretty good moral. I haff another shtory. Onshe upon a time there wash a young girl named Matilda. Matida loved catsh sho much all the time but everyone thought she wash crazy. Or a witch. They alsho made fun of her for thinking she had catsh when there weren't any. But actually Matilda had jusht made her catsh invishible. So Matilda was both a witch and had lotsh of catsh. However the shtressh of being called a witch made Matilda an alcoholic. She drank sho much she forgot to feed her catsh and a bunch of them died. Thish haunted her for the resht of her life. Then Matilda got shuper old and found hershelf in a dreadful village where shomeone tried to kill her. Moral: Drink more.2 likes
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Propaganda. Propa-storming-ganda. I am so, so sick and tired of it. Can we all just, stop? Collectively? As a society? Can we agree that super-biased, one-sided stuff only leads to a deepening of the societal divide? I'm sick of the name calling, mud-slinging, poorly researched and completely unbalanced stuff flying around the internet (from all sides of the political spectrum. Yes, I mean yours random citizen reading this. I also mean mine.) Can we just, stop? Like, if you see something absurdly one-sided, just don't share it? And, like, if your friends do, call them on it? Super politely? That would be great, guys.2 likes
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Blood tends to look worse than it is, especially in your mouth, when it's surrounded by saliva as well. Floss regularly for a few days and that should stop. ...He said, completely ignoring his own advice.2 likes
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@TwiLyghtSansSparkles - in light of a recent announcement, I'll add this. It's good that you're releasing your bitterness against your parents. Bitterness leads to anger. Anger leads to hate, Hate... Leads to suffering.2 likes
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Art by Sunbird, Part 3! This post will contain my finished art from 2012 to my latest work as of January 22, 2017. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to draw recently, so "my latest work" is almost a year old at this point. From January 13, 2012, Orlando Bloom as Will Turner from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. If I had to pick one of my drawings that I think is my absolute best, it would probably be this one of Loki. I finished it June 4, 2012, after The Avengers was released in American theaters. I did another Avengers portrait later that summer: Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, completed on August 26, 2012. Last Avengers fanart for this post, I promise. XD Robert Downey Jr as everybody's favorite billionaire playboy philanthropist inventor, Tony Stark. (Not Iron Man, though, because I didn't draw him in the armor. ) I finished this one April 6, 2013. Most people here probably won't recognize this next character, although you might know the actor: vampire PI Mick St John from the one-season TV show Moonlight, played by Alex O'Loughlin. (Mr O'Loughlin has also been in the TV shows Three Rivers and Hawaii Five-0 (the 2010 reboot), as well as the movie August Rush.) Funny story about the history behind this drawing: I started working on it in like early/mid 2013, but it got buried and forgotten in the chaos of my move to Utah for college. It wasn't until Christmas break 2015 that I finally found it again and resumed work, finishing December 21, 2015. My last three portraits are the drawings that I have also posted to the official Shard fanart gallery. After I finished reading Calamity, I just kinda got an itch to do Reckoners fanart and neglected homework and sleep to work on these. XD Drawing book characters for which I had no photos was in some ways easier and in some ways harder than drawing movie/TV characters from reference photos. It was easier because I didn't have to make my people resemble anyone specific, but it was harder because I had to figure out the lighting and clothing pretty much just from my brain. First, my imagining of Obliteration, completed Feb 20, 2016: Of course, no collection of Reckoners fanart is complete without Prof! Completed Feb 21, 2016. (I think I may have matched my personal speed record with this drawing--one day from start to finish, same as Spike.) My last Reckoners fanart and the most recent drawing I've finished is Mizzy. After I finished Prof, I looked back at my collection and realized it was sadly lacking in female characters, and I hadn't drawn a single person of color. I felt bad and picked Mizzy as my next subject, completing her portrait Feb 27, 2016. So that's pretty much all my stuff that I consider good enough to share on the Internet. Comments, questions, suggestions, limericks...? I'd love to hear all your thoughts.2 likes
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Screaming woke Cassius from his bed. Not again! Not another Coinshot, please!... He flung himself out of bed, pressing his hands against the window and feeling it, searching for a crack that could indicate that the screaming was his own. Nothing; the glass was smooth. That taken care of, Cassius threw on a robe and rushed for the door, leaving it unlocked behind him as he hurled himself out into the mists. Captain Cassius, as he sometimes preferred to call himself, valued decisiveness over caution. The screaming stopped, but not before Cassius had determined that it had come from a low rooftop above him. He bounded onto a crate that leaned haphazardly against the wall, grabbed the rooftop's edge, and pulled. Something in the robe ripped, but Cassius kept it on. It would not do to be scandalous at a time like this. His muscular biceps clenched, and he practically flew onto the roof. It was an awful sight to see. Nicki's body lay on the rooftop. From her chest protruded a length of shiny metal spike. She was still breathing, but it was ragged and shallow. He didn't know if she would make it or not. But what was Cassius supposed to do? He couldn't get help; there wasn't time, and his robe was not exactly formal material. He didn't know much first aid; he once had had a girlfriend who was a surgeon, but it was she who had done the first aid on him (long story). The only thing that he could think of doing was performing rescue breathing, but realized that that would appear even more scandalous then busting into someone's quarters wearing nothing but a ripped robe. And so Cassius just stood there on the rooftop, watching Nicki's body struggle for life. @Arraenae What happens is completely up to you.2 likes
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Nicki paced on a rooftop, quietly seething. Rin had betrayed her. Rin! She’d thought he was a friend! He’d had no right to tell the rest of the town what she was doing with Pikker’s body. And that Ryth, the one who had threatened to call the guards -- he was the worst of them all. Nicki clenched her fists. That spike was hers. They had no right to say that she had to relinquish it. She’d gotten to it first, before they had even stopped gawking over the dead body. The man the spike had come from was dead, so why did they care about what happened to the object that had killed him? It wasn’t like they were trying to save their fathers from being an Inquisitor. Nicki felt for her pockets and breathed a sigh of relief when she felt both the spike and the booklet. At least she still had both of those. Why was the Terrisman so desperate to have the spike? Didn’t he see that Nicki couldn’t afford to trade away a lead for something that might have been faked? Nicki took out the little booklet. She still needed to read through it to see what it said. She inspected it. The leather cover was cracked, and little flakes fell off when Nicki opened it. She flipped through the pages, which were yellowed and dog-eared. Nicki held it up to the light of the moon and began to read. Some time later, Nicki reached the end of the book. That was it? She flipped through the pages again, but found nothing new. The booklet had no more to say. According to the little book, the trauma of having spikes shoved through one’s body caused a person to Snap. Spikes that were prepared a certain way, when placed in some body parts, could bestow Allomancy and something called Feruchemy. Even if someone had already Snapped, the spikes could cause someone to Snap again. Multiple spikes let someone have multiple powers. The book answered the mystery of how Nicki’s father had Snapped into a Mistborn after already being a Seeker, but not much else. It didn’t explain why Nicki’s father was serving the Steel Ministry as an Inquisitor, or how the spikes that caused people to Snap were prepared. Still, the booklet seemed legitimate. Nicki had to test it out to see if it would work. Nicki took out the spike she’d found at the man’s dead body. It glinted silvery in the light, with a point sharp enough to draw blood. At the time, Nicki had assumed that it was the murder weapon. What if it actually had made him Snap into a Misting like the book had described? There was only one way to find out. Nicki shut her eyes and tried to remember which body part the man had pulled the spike out of. It had been stuck through somewhere around his torso… his heart. The spike had been stuck through his heart. Off went Nicki's shirt and undergarments. She didn't want to get an infection from a bit of cloth stuck in her. She ripped off the sleeves -- she could use them as bandages to staunch the bleeding. Nicki sat down on the rooftop. She felt around her chest for her heartbeat and pressed the tip of the spike over it. Then she took a breath and burned pewter. This was it. The moment where she saw if the Terrisman's book was truthful or not. Nicki shoved the spike in. It slid into her flesh painlessly. The spike hit something hard -- probably a rib. Nicki kept pushing on the spike, and the rib cracked. Searing pain flashed through Nicki, like she’d been set on fire. Nicki screamed. She hunched over and clutched her chest. By the Lord Ruler, the spike burned. She hadn’t felt pain like this in years. Nicki flared pewter, and the pain died down by an infinitesimally small amount. Lord Ruler... it hurt... Nicki's throat went raw from screaming. Rusts, even pewter was failing her now... Nicki’s screams died down into a choked sob. She fell onto her side and curled up into a ball. This… this had been a mistake. The book must be wrong. Nicki blacked out. Note: This is not a confession. Nicki might be Spiked now, but that doesn't mean I'm an elim. Also, Hero, sorry for not giving you either the spike or the booklet. Nicki had to see it for herself.2 likes
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So I've got a ring. It's nice. Tungsten carbide, has a neat Celtic knot type pattern. Got it for Christmas. And it fits me pretty well every day of the week... except Sunday. During church hours. I wonder if this is God punishing me for calling it "my precious" that one time.2 likes
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Me: *Gets haircut* Friend: Did you get a haircut? Me: No, I got them all cut.2 likes
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Art by Sunbird, Part 2! During the summer of 2011, I started trying my hand at people portraits--usually of my favorite movie or TV characters. Thankfully I have definite dates for most of these drawings, unlike the ones in my first post. I started with Matt Smith as the 11th Doctor, completed Aug 28, 2011. And the very next day I redid Matt Smith in Corel Painter with a "blunt chalk" brush, adding in a spacey background. Once during an assembly in the gym at my high school (September 2011), I brought a sketch pad and pencil and did a quick contour drawing of a guy sitting a little ways in front of me. This was the result: More Doctor Who fanart! David Tennant this time. Original colored-pencil version completed Sept 18, 2011, with the Corel Painter version almost a month later on Oct 16. In between the colored-pencil and digital versions of David Tennant, I drew this graphite sketch of a Barn Owl in a barn for my art class. Completed October 13, 2011. I decided I didn't have enough villains in my superhero collection, so I did one of Mystique. (Fear not; she's wearing clothes, unlike in the X-Men movies.) Completed December 3, 2011. Just two more for this post, I think--both characters from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I set a personal speed record with Spike--I started early in the morning before school with the contours and had finished adding full color by dinnertime. I did this December 5, 2011, but it's still one of my favorites. Ok, last drawing for this post: Angel from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, completed sometime in the days leading up to Christmas 2011.2 likes
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Personally I think Szeth's oathstone was just a regular stone to symbolizes his master since some of what Nale says at the end implies that Szeth stayed on his path under his own volition, and that the choice to break his oath as Truthless was within his power.2 likes
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So, been a while since I made this thread (relatively), but necro-ing because Brandon confirmed on Reddit that you guys were right, and that Elantrians don't, in fact, die when Initiated. Source. (Oathbringer Update thread tagged for Oathbringer spoilers. Beware. Got a lot more than I thought I would out of that one. Really awesome of Brandon to take time and type these out for us. It's great that we're theorizing about a theory.2 likes
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Hi! I've been following posts on 17th shard for a while and haven't gotten around to creating an account until now. I've got a few theories of my own that I'm going to be posting later, after prusing certain threads making sure I'm not makeing a duplicate. Will be nice to converse with you guys in the future!1 like
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I'm gonna vote on Assassin. I don't trust Arinian (or anyone else), and I will wait to see more on him before I vote on him or the people he has claimed about. Considering the lack of PMs, I do consider it a point in Arinian's favor that he knew Bugsy's role. I do object, regardless of the circumstances, to revealing Wonko's role. Especially considering that Wonko's ability, if he is village, will now be useless. I'm going to back off a bit on Rae, since I think I've been tunneling a bit. I had a hard time looking at a broad range of players due to how busy I was, and figured I would stick to my guns. However, if it turns out that Arinian is lying, I will be the first to vote for her. Aralis stared at Fuzzy. After Aralis had just tried to kill somebody for blowing things out of proportion, here was another person doing it again. Aralis wasn't sure if the man's faith in this "Ja" fellow was more or less insane that believing on Koloss. Nobody should worship a man for dying, which to the best of Aralis's knowledge, was mostly what "the Ja" had done. He was probably the sort of fellow that would earn a quick thump on the head for talking nonsense, like so many of the villagers here deserved. Dying and coming back, like the Survivor, now that was a thing you could worship, if you didn't know the truth of the matter. But dying and staying dead, well, even Aralis could do that, he supposed. Probably would do it, as a matter of fact, the way things were going around Tyrian Falls. Well, one couldn't be elderly forever, and what better time to die then when everyone around you has turned against each other?1 like
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Lets look at what we know: The Radiants who abandoned their oaths during the Recreance were disgruntled (they sort of acted like jerks in Dalinar's flashback of the Recreance) by something (a secret they hadn't been aware of according to mr. T) and in relatively short-order reached widespread consensus that they should quit being Radiants. According to WoB, in general, the Radiants loved their spren and regarded them as dear friends and confidants. People, even very bad, greedy, corrupt, or mean-spirited people, tend to avoid knowingly doing things that would result in the deaths of their loved ones, even if they face great personal cost. Almost all of the bondspren "died," meaning that very few, if any, Radiants chose to kill themselves or seek natural deaths rather than give up their oaths. I feel like, if faced with a "you need to kill your best friend" scenario, a statistically significant number of people would opt for suicide or complete inaction unless thoroughly coerced to do otherwise, but this is an opinion. From this, I speculate the following: Once whatever the horrible secret was became widespread knowledge among the orders and their spren, the spren, out of love for their humans, insisted that the Radiants release their oaths because keeping them would either cause something terrible to happen or ultimately result in unfathomably awful consequences for the Radiants and/or the spren. (IE: worse than death) The spren and Radiants had really good reasons to believe that the secret that they learned was true. If it was questionable in origin or interpretation at all many would probably have opted for denial due to lack of compelling evidence. The consequences for either or both the spren and Radiants, and/or mankind at large, for continuing to maintain the Nahel bond were perceived to be significantly worse than death by the spren, and perceived as being worse than being forced to kill one's best friend by the Radiants. What the secret was/is is still speculative. I like the hypothesis that Radiants who die with their oaths intact get sent to Braize for eternal torture (this is covered more in older threads) and have defended it before because, in my opinion, it fits the above list of bullet points pretty well. However, due to a lack of supporting evidence, I think it's a bit of a stretch to classify it as a full-blown theory; it's just one possible explanation. TLDR; Given what we know about the Recreance, the secret of the Radiants is most likely something extremely awful. Something so awful that the Radiants more-or-less unanimously agreed that murdering their most beloved companions was a better idea than continuing to participate in the Nahel bond. I like OP's theory on the basis of flavor, but I don't think it quite fits with what we've learned so far.1 like
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I still have a bad feeling about Jon, so, that is where my vote will stay. "I suppose Ruin won't have to kill them all, there killing themselves." "If only they knew . . ." He stopped talking to himself as he realized that the chest that held the spike was missing. "They found it and me, I've gotten too sloppy, my teacher would be very disappointed."1 like
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You guys so beautiful trying to kill all proven villagers. Bugsy, Rae, Madagascar, Wonko villagers. I'm also scanned Lopen but... you know what happened with him. I know that that's stupid move to reveal myself and I will die from lynch or from night kill but mehh... I just can't stay aside. So you can lynch me if you want to be sure if I saying truth or not. If someone still not understand I'm Seeker. Nyali (I'm not scanned her)1 like
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So we know each order has specific surges. But sometimes it seems like they get something else too. Kaladin has his combat affinity. It's something he's always had, but it might be a slightly supernatural thing too. It certainly feels that way. So maybe Edgedancers(who's oaths are remarkably therapisty) have a kind of aura that affects how people talk to them. People certainly talk to Lift in a different manner than most. And it could be her attitude. There are ways to talk to people that get them to open up more. Body postures you take and ways you modulate your voice so they feel more at ease. But if there's something supernatural going on it could be that people who become edgedancers also have(like I said) an aura, but one that's a little more intuitive. Maybe introspective. But maybe also more connected to magic. Not like we've seen another edgedancer to get hints about it.1 like
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@Flynn and @A Budgie yey even more emotinless people architects i am not alone i have thought of taking the test as acharacter , to view your understanding of him but i hevent considered it as a creation tool , brilliant also i am a blender not sure what it means for me as a person apart from the fact that i make smoothies , which is not untrue but i still havent found a reliable way to put spikes in smoothies1 like
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niiice so dalinar was indeed spiked , and a mistborn non the less it seems that i should have gone with my gut from the start , btw i hope you are not prudes *taking a bath*1 like
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I realized that quite a few people RP their characters with Allomantic powers... what if Joe was a Mistborn? Disclaimer: the following are not actual events, simply speculations on alternate Joes. Joe was running. He didn't know why... he just wanted to. Speaking of wanting to do things, why don't I jump over that house? He cast a coin on the ground and Steelpushed, but the coin bounced on the cobbles and to the side, so Joe was flung into the wall. He groaned. "Good thing I was burning pewter..." Joe stood atop a tower, overlooking Tyrian Falls. With tin, he could see each cobble of the streets below. He scanned the rooftops, taking in the sights. Then he glanced to the side and stared directly into a mirror reflecting light. It was blinding, so bright that he lost his balance and tumbled off the tower. Joe landed with a crash. "Good thing I was burning pewter..." Joe was burning pewter, arm wrestling the largest man in Tyrian Falls. The other man strained, his muscles rippling as he tried to push back Joe's Allomantically enhanced arm. Finally, Joe slammed his arm down, securing his place as champion! The crowd cheered. Joe, feeling confident, challenged the crowd. "Is there anyone who thinks they can defeat me?" He flexed his arms for emphasis. His arms were still wimpy. An older man stepped forward. Joe smirked. This would be easy. They sat down at the table and locked fists. The ref stood by. "One, two, three!" Joe pushed, but the man didn't yield. Sweat trickled down the man's face. Joe pushed harder. The man wavered, but remained strong. Joe pushed-- his reserves ran out. The strength rushed out of his limbs. The resistance gone, the man's arm snapped Joe's back, snapping it and pinning his hand on the table. Joe shrieked and cradled his broken arm. "Good thing... wait, dang it."1 like
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Just checked that: Saze uses zinc to tplot the tragectory of, and to catch, a lamp. In a couple of seconds. It isn't as obvious from the writing, but it appears to be the same thing.1 like
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I personally believe that we will see another "in between" trilogy for a total of 16 Mistborn books. 16 Mistborn and 10 Stormlight would anything be more appropriate?1 like
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Her name's Delightful, she is a poet. She's got a lot of talent but she doesn't show it. She likes anime and Lin-Manuel; She adheres to Judaism and is really quite swell.1 like
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I guess i am a literalist in what Dalinar saw. I think that is why Dust Bringers hate being called by that name, due to it being too much like what was thrown against them in the previous Desolations. Also, I think that even more than Ruin's desire that all should end in it's entropic conclusion, the Hate of a trapped God would bring the complete devastation to the offending world-- dust swirling into the void. I guess we shall see, but the horror of the vision is what focused Dalinar on the possibility of fighting Odium. I think I'll stick with it till I get something else as a better hint.1 like
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We know for a fact that there was fighting going on, from Dalinar's vision. I believe the guards are confused when they see the Knights, because they should have been on the front lines.1 like
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My two cents... The way you just described it sounds more like refraction. it isn't refracting the trajectory. You could shoot the exact same spot and have it go deflect different ways. I'll see if I can find it, but there is the WoB about watching for what happens when something hits the edge of a speed bubble. This is guessed (though not confirmed) to be related to FTL, so I doubt it is simple refraction. Back on the spear topic, it would be the same as when you are inside a train that passes through a bubble. The spear would be 'part of you,' so it would function in the same manner as people inside the train. It would still be 'in the bubble,' even though several feet of it are sticking out of the bubble and into someone's face. This would be pretty OP. You could just stab people that are outside the bubble faster than they could defend against it.1 like
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To start things off, let's remember that all Cosmere events are background happenings throughout the many different novel. Meaning, they are not the focus of any of the novels. The main plot of each book and/or group/s of books each have their own respective focus. Moving on, Odium's main focus is to destroy. This is important to remember for later...or throughout... your call. He wishes to be or become the most powerful being in the Cosmere. Now, the chronological part: Prior to Elantris: Oduim has already been there, destroyed that (Devotion and Dominion). Probably roughly 10 years prior to the novel. He has a way of using natural disasters to change things up a bit. (i.e. this is when the gods are fighting, this will come up again later.) (For those who do not know, I am speaking of the Chasm forming) So, logically unless another shard goes to Sel it is unnecessary for him to return. The Emperor's Soul: Odium doesn't need to be there as he has already destroyed that. (the events of this novel take place on Sel). See previous note. First Mistborn era Trilogy: It is unlikely that Odium is or has been present during these books, as he has probably already been trapped on Braize after or during his destruction of Honor on Roshar. (Also, we know that all the natural disasters on this planet where caused by the Lord Ruler) I believe it has been stated that Odium has been trapped on Braize for quite some time.(But not too long, you'll see later) Also, since there will be a third era Mistborn series, that seems like the most likely time for Odium to show up on Scadrial. (Or the inhabitants of Scadrial going to him...) Moving on... Warbreaker: Since this is after first era Mistborn, but prior to Stormlight Archive, Odium is probably on Braize, as previously stated, at this time. We do know that Endowment is there though, (on Nalthis) alive and kickin'. Shadow for Silence in the Forests of Hell: I do not know what Shardworld this is on, nor do I know what aspect/s is/are there. But,... it is after first era Mistborn and before Stormlight Archive. So,... Odium is not there or influencing anything during this novel. Stormlight Archive novels: Ok, so we know where Odium is (Braize). But, due to proximity he is influencing things on Roshar. Now, let's pause here to bring up some other things. How trilogies usually work. First book, heroes win. Second book, villains win. Third book, heroes win and the story is over. Yay. Well, not in Brandon's grand scheme. Can't be. You cannot have Odium stuck on Braize for the entirety of The Stormlight Archive books. Also, he can't lose at the end of those novels. If this were true then why keep writing Cosmere books. You can't just bring in a new villain partway through and go "Oh, hey, yeah, there's this new guy and he is worse than the last. Bwahahahaha." ... So, logically Odium will either succeed at getting off Braize and since he was in the neighborhood, kill Cultivation on the way. I mean, he was already in town, might as well stop on by and kill a shardbearer. When should this happen you might ask? At the end of book five. Here's why, there is supposed to be a fifteen year gap from book five to book six due to some big event... Like the end of the Desolations...(natural disasters, remember?) because Odium has left the building. But, the books continue, because as I said, the Cosmere events are not the MAIN events in the novels. They are the background fluff. (Albeit they are the most interesting fluff I've ever seen. And I've seen cotton candy.) Onward Fearless (and probably bored with me) Adventurers... Alloy of Law: Due to this being a transition novel from one Mistborn era to another, what better time to screw with readers. We will leave it at that. All speculation is automatically allowed. Any Shardbearer (excluding dead ones...) can do whatever they want! Shadows of Self, or Second Mistborn era: This takes place 342 years after the events of The Hero of Ages. Which means all the books between first and second Mistborn eras happens in under 342 years. Geez, Odium had little time to sit around on Braize. But wait, if Elantris is only hundreds of years (not thousands) of years prior Mistborn, and Stormlight is before Second era Mistborn, then... Oduim could not have been trapped on Braize for too long (relatively speaking for a "god"). Now, we have not seen any natural disasters in this series yet. (the flooding was caused by Bleeder, therefore not natural disaster). We can likely conclude that Autonomy showed up, which would explain Bleeder acting all revolutionary. Rise up against Harmony she says. Foil hats everyone. And, this could explain the rusting on the spike at the end. It is an direct effect to the metal not allowing Harmony (Sazed) to control people. Good for Autonomy (Bavadin), not sure how this is useful to Odium... Except that if Autonomy were attempting to break apart Harmony (due to the speculation that he may have a desire to make sure the shards were autonomous) it would then give Odium a leg up on Sazed because he would no longer have two shards. So, Autonomy isn't the new worse villain, he is the transition villain in the transition era. Oh, hmm that makes sense if we are leading to a final Mistborn era that should and most likely involve the end of Brandon's Cosmeric Conflict with Odium. Well, to sum things up. I believe that Odium causes natural disasters. These disaster are either the fight between gods or the aftermath of the smashing a shard. Since there hasn't been any on Scadrial, I believe Autonomy to be there, not Odium. I also think that at the end of the Desolations (in the Stormlight novels), that Odium has left the Greater Roshar system and is moving on. I also believe that we will not see Odium on Scadrial until the third Mistborn era (which I do believe Brandon has said would be the end of his Cosmere inspire books). That is interesting... Your thoughts!1 like
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