Kal973

The listeners seem to be the native people of Roshar. Couldn't the Tranquilline Halls be another planet ? Humans could have been implanted on Roshar after an exile they don't remember anymore ? Otherwise, Roshar may have changed after a big cataclysm. The fauna and flora remembers me of the seabed. The entire planet could have been covered by the sea and then the continent of Roshar could have emerged from the sea. Shinnovar would have been the highest spot of the mountains pre-cataclysm and the only spot that was not covered by the sea, that's why the specific fauna and flora we can see there was not destroyed. Humans could have flee Roshar before the cataclysm and come back centuries later to find a new form of sentient life (the listeners) was already living on the planet. It seems that the desolations cause a great deal of destruction, and the complete collapse of civilisation when they occur. Maybe the cataclysm that lead Roshar to be covered by the sea was a desolation. A big one. And by then humans had developped enough science to travel through space and find shelter on another planet they don't remember anymore because another desolation occured after their come back on Roshar, erasing their memories of their journey, of their technology...

I don't think Adolin will die, even in the end. I think that he will be king of Alethkar in the end, and that he will embrace his role as a leader after a long arc that will lead him through a complicated path. Kaladin will probably be one of his closest friends on this path, during his darkest moments, helping him not to loose himself. In the end, I see Adolin on the throne with Shallan and Renarin to help him reign as a good king. And I think that, by then, Kal will probably be dead, and dearly remembered by those who love him. He will be dead because he will sacrifice his life to try and save everyone else. It's not only because of Fleet's story. It's the way his character has been written from the beginning. I think that he is the champion who will fight the great duel. Or maybe it's more complicated than that. Maybe Adolin is meant to be the champion (after all, we hear a lot about his duelling skills) and Kal will take his place/ or he will have to lead another fight in order to allow the duel to take place. I don't know, but I'm sure that Kal will die a hero, while Adolin will live to be king.

Daxos, I agree with what you say. I think that the Kaladin we see in WoK is more mature than the one that is portrayed in WoR, as if WoR had been written before WoK, as if WoK was showing us the ultimate version of Kaladin, the man (the living legend ?) that he was meant to be in the mind of BS when he first imagined him. Kal was my favourite character in the first book. While reading, I found him so compelling in his struggles, in his doubts, and in his oaths, that I bought him completely. I found him very pure of heart in his intentions to protect those who need it. And in the end of WoK, the way he fights is almost divine. Maybe that was the problem. Maybe WoK showed too much of the evolution that the character was destined to know in the end of the serie... and then, what ? Maybe by writing him this way from the beginning BS arrived a dead end. In fact, his arc in WoR made me feel that he had regressed in many ways and I didn't like it. In WoK, he appeared as a great fighter and as a selfless man, almost the figure of a savior. Even when it was hard for him to fight his depression, he was wise and thoughtfull. And he always thought about the men he had to protect, in an obsessive way. To see this Kaladin, the one I first embraced, become a grumpy child, too proud for his own good and obsessed with vengeance, was sometimes very difficult. It made him appear more human, of course. But I would have prefered to see his flaws first and his heroic side then. It would have been easier for me to empathize with him...

Guys, I'm French. I'm trying. Don't laugh .

At least, it IS epic.

This are the oaths we would NEVER swear

I will go to bed early

"Kaladin" said Shallan, surprised to see him. "What are you doing here ?"

"I'm a Stick". "You are Fire". "I'm a Stick". "My friend, I understand that what you are inside may not fit your appearance. But if you don't try to change the way you look like, it will be hard for simple minded people like me to recognize your true identity. I mean, come on, it must be very difficult to argue with every person you meet about your Sticky nature before they see the Stick in you..." " ???" "No offense. You may be a Stick, but believe me, you don't look like one" (Shows Fire) "This. From my point of view, this is a Stick. This looks like a Stick. This feels like a Stick. This behaves in a very Sticky way. On the other hand, you may feel that you are a Stick deep Inside... but, sorry to say so, you still look like Fire." "I'M A STICK !" "Well, I'm not sure. I mean, where is the proof ? If you could just try to transform your appearence, it would really be easier for me to see the Stick in you. True Sticks, fierce sticks, beautiful sticks do look like our little friend other there..." "I'M A STICK !" *Transforms into fire*

I would ask her telekinesis.

Aaaah not like that !!!!!!!!

I really think that Lirin will die in Kaladin's arms. But I really like the idea that Lirin has become a radiant. He has always been presented as a righteous man, I think he could be the type of person who attracts sprens. He could have inherit special Healing gifts. He was always so dedicated to his work. I'm sure he would have used them wisely. In his last moments, the fact that he is a radiant would make it easier for him to understand Kal and all what Kal went through... I like the idea of the baby sister more than the idea of the baby brother. A baby brother would be too much of a replacement child; he would always remind Tien to his older brother and his parents. Although a little sister is something new, and it seems better to get a new beginning...

This is my guess. Kal reaches Hearthstone just after the Everstorm, delayed by his mission in the capital. Everybody's in panic as the voidbringers have already began to tear the town apart. Roshone is locked inside his property. He fears so much for his own security that he has abandoned the people of the town, keeping his armed guards for himself. Laral has been defying his husband at the beginning of the bloodshed. She is the one who tries to organise the civilian défenses. She has gathered the majority of the people and she has given them weapons, but their efforts to resist the Voidbringers are hopeless as they are not real fighters. When Kal arrives, he tries to find his parents in the group that she has united, but they are missing. Mad with worry, he wants to go and look for them first, but Laral begs him to stay and help, and he realizes that he has to protect the people of Hearthstone against the voidbringers first or they will die. He defeats the Voidbringers who attack the villagers. Meanwhile Roshone is killed Inside his guarded property. When the people of Hearthstone are secure, Kaladin goes back home within a heartbeat, prepared for the worst. But when he enters inside his house, he finds his father fighting hopelessly against a surviving Voidbringer. Lirin is badly wounded. Mad with grief, Kal kills the Voidbringer with his shardblade before he kills his father. Then he reaches him and tries to patch his wounds, but there's nothing he can do. He takes Lirin in his arms as he is dying. The father has tears of joy in his eyes when he realises that the radiant who just "saved" him is his son, he thought that Kal was dead. Kal is totally upset. He asks why his father had to stay here unprotected...and discovers that Lirin has stayed to protect a young patient under his care that could not be moved. He cries and tells his father he has always been his hero and he's so sorry for not having been able to save Tien and for arriving to late to save him too. Lirin has enough time left to tell Kal that Tien's death was not his fault. He tells him how proud of him he is, and asks him to protect is mom...and his little sister. Kal discovers that Hesina is safe, hidden in the room with the child. She is devastated because Lirin is dead but overwhelmed with joy because she is reunited with her son. Kal falls in love at first sight with his sister who is so much like Tien...

I will grow up. I will stop to read fantasy books. I will not re-read my favourite fantasy books again and again. I will stop daydreaming. I will lead a realistic life. Instead of speaking about magic, knights, swords, dragons, and alternate universes with my friends, I will have discussions about sports and money and politics with them. I will stop listening toTwo Steps From Hell when I'm washing the dishes just because it gives me a huge sense of epicness. I will never watch StarWars, LOTR, Matrix or Pirates of the Carribean again. Especially not when I'm sick and stuck in my bed. I will not be obsessed by dragons. I will not believe that I secretely am a dragon. Or that I will adopt one. I will not hope that I will someday grow wings and fly. I will stop to believe that there is magic in this world. I will stop to believe that true friendship is a blessing and a gift. I will stop to believe that love is more powerful than hatred. I will stop to have faith in the human kind.

France - French !