The Grumpy Elantrian Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 What would happen to a mistborn if they were a savant in all the metals? We know that savantism can become dangerous, but would being a savant in all metals weirdly balance eachother out? In a similar way to how Spook's pewter negated his tin savantism? Or would the effects on ones spiritual DNA be too much and the mistborn suffers woth big issues both physicslly and spiritually? Are there any WoBs on this? Do we know more? I appreciate any further input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSuperLee Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 The Lord Ruler was supposedly a savant in all metals (that he had access to.) So it's probably safe to say that it's theoretically possible for a Mistborn. Though, without gold healing to compensate for any physical damage the savantism may cause, I'm not sure it would be a pleasant experience. Sure, pewter probably cancels out most of (if not all of) the pain they would cause, but Spook's senses were still overloaded by the sun, even if the pewter helped. In general, I don't think savantism is supposed to be portraid as a good thing to do to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, HSuperLee said: The Lord Ruler was supposedly a savant in all metals (that he had access to.) So it's probably safe to say that it's theoretically possible for a Mistborn. Though, without gold healing to compensate for any physical damage the savantism may cause, I'm not sure it would be a pleasant experience. Sure, pewter probably cancels out most of (if not all of) the pain they would cause, but Spook's senses were still overloaded by the sun, even if the pewter helped. In general, I don't think savantism is supposed to be portraid as a good thing to do to yourself. Pewter is your best bet here, healing won't fix anything caused by Savantism. Stormlight spoilers Spoiler Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] Do all Soulcasters risk turning into the element or is it only those using the device? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] All Soulcasters have an affinity but the ones using the device are locked down much more than the Soulcasters who are Knights Radiant. Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] So they are protected from being turned into-- Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Oh no they-- I wouldn't say protected... *clarificaiton* Protected is the wrong term but that event, the savanthood and how it affects them and things like that is much less pronounced if you are a [Knight]. Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] Or is that counteracted by the healing as well? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Healing doesn't have to do with it because-- in cosmere terms there's nothing wrong with your body, your spirit is actually drifting, and so it's not hurting you physically by what's happening with the magics. So it's not the healing but if you have an active bond with a spren it takes a little different path. Let's just say, in simple terms-- Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] You are not losing body parts to smoke. Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yes, you are not using body parts to smoke. Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] What timeframe does it happen for the normal Soulcasters then? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] For normal Soulcasters? It takes-- I mean, you've seen it happening in the books. We are talking [about] a process of years even decades, depending on the person. It happens to some-- Questioner 2 [PENDING REVIEW] Depending on how often they Soulcast? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] It depends on how often they Soulcast, and it depends on the person. source Healing is based off of your Spiritual Aspect, and Savantism changes that. You can't heal what your spiritweb says is working as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSuperLee Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, Calderis said: Pewter is your best bet here, healing won't fix anything caused by Savantism. Stormlight spoilers Reveal hidden contents Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] Do all Soulcasters risk turning into the element or is it only those using the device? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] All Soulcasters have an affinity but the ones using the device are locked down much more than the Soulcasters who are Knights Radiant. Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] So they are protected from being turned into-- Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Oh no they-- I wouldn't say protected... *clarificaiton* Protected is the wrong term but that event, the savanthood and how it affects them and things like that is much less pronounced if you are a [Knight]. Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] Or is that counteracted by the healing as well? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Healing doesn't have to do with it because-- in cosmere terms there's nothing wrong with your body, your spirit is actually drifting, and so it's not hurting you physically by what's happening with the magics. So it's not the healing but if you have an active bond with a spren it takes a little different path. Let's just say, in simple terms-- Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] You are not losing body parts to smoke. Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yes, you are not using body parts to smoke. Questioner 1 [PENDING REVIEW] What timeframe does it happen for the normal Soulcasters then? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] For normal Soulcasters? It takes-- I mean, you've seen it happening in the books. We are talking [about] a process of years even decades, depending on the person. It happens to some-- Questioner 2 [PENDING REVIEW] Depending on how often they Soulcast? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] It depends on how often they Soulcast, and it depends on the person. source Healing is based off of your Spiritual Aspect, and Savantism changes that. You can't heal what your spiritweb says is working as intended. I wasn't trying to imply that f-gold would heal savantism, but rather it would help to deal with damage that results from it. For instance, Spook was probably at risk of blindness due to his increased sensitivity. The Lord Ruler probably had this same issue, but it didn't bother him because his retinas would heal from blindness, even if the cause of it (savantism) remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrisk Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Uh, I don't think the Lord Ruler was feeling the effects of burning metal all the time, because he compounded it into feruchemy. Does it work like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Inquisitive Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Well, we at least know he was soothing 24/7. So that's one metal he should be a savant in. Also, does how powerful you are determine how quickly you become a savant? If so that could explain why Wax isn't a savant. He's not powerful enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shqueeves Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 I don't know about how "power level" effects the rate towards savantism, but TLR had 1000 years to burn metal, so he might have been a full savant Quote theFinisher4Ever Was the Lord Ruler using feruchamy + alchemy to soothe all of the people around him? Or was he, as I like to think, flaring for so long that he became a Soother Savant? Brandon Sanderson He lived long enough and used his metals enough (particularly Soothing) to become nearly a savant in every area, if not a full savant. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossamund Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 I think the key to managing his Savantism was feruchemy. Alomancy does things quickly. The lord ruler would probably be constantly tapping metalmind such as tin to counter his various weakness's brought on by Savantism. Being a fullborn is just over powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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