Iorusys Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) It is stated that in end-negative systems, hemalurgy being the prime example, investiture is lost during the process. However, it is also said that investiture can not be created or destroyed, so what happens to it? Does it return to the shards? Edited September 8, 2018 by Iorusys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Calderis Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Quote trevorade Is investiture finite? Hemalurgy and a Return's need to consume breath seems to show us that it can be destroyed. If it is finite, is the Cosmere's magic source doomed to the law of entropy? Brandon Sanderson Investiture can not be created or destroyed. It follows it's own version of the laws of Thermodynamics. Joe_____ So what happens to the investiture that is lost when a person is spiked and the spike isn't set in the new person immediately? Does it return to the big pool of investiture in the sky like the power from wheel of time where if its not actively being used it returns to the source? Brandon Sanderson What happens to someone's body when it's not being used by a particular person? The system is built to work like that. source It's cyclical. And regardless of if it's present in all realms there's still a focal point where it exists most heavily. Investiture can transition like anything else. You have the physical manifestations of investiture. And for example with Stormlight... Quote Narkac Where does the Stormlight in highstorms come from? Is there like a "rain cycle", but for the Stormlight? Brandon Sanderson The Stormlight in the highstorm is transferred from the Spiritual realm through the Stormfather into the highstorm. source 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Calderis Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Yep. Back into the Spiritual to be recycled back into the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Fanghur Rahl Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Calderis said: Yep. Back into the Spiritual to be recycled back into the system. Has Brandon actually said that? Because in the WOBs I’ve seen relating to the subject, he basically implied that it’s like thermodynamics. Because technically Investiture never ‘leaves’ the Spiritual Realm, does it? It has all three aspects at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Fanghur Rahl Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Calderis said: It's cyclical. And regardless of if it's present in all realms there's still a focal point where it exists most heavily. Investiture can transition like anything else. You have the physical manifestations of investiture. And for example with Stormlight... I stand corrected. I wonder if Brandon envisions the Cosmere universe having an overall cyclic cosmology too. It would seem to be consistent with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Draginon Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 I think when it's said to be 'lost' the mechanics behind it is more that you're using more energy than you should be to work the effects, similar to the legend of the negative calories of celery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Fanghur Rahl Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Not really, it just means that there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Quantus Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 For what it's worth there's also this: Quote So just for clarification, once Nightblood consumes investiture, that investiture gets recycled? That's what I've always assumed. That it enters the cognitive/spiritual realm? Brandon Sanderson The investiture he consumes is not gone forever--it's not leaving the system, so to speak. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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It is stated that in end-negative systems, hemalurgy being the prime example, investiture is lost during the process. However, it is also said that investiture can not be created or destroyed, so what happens to it? Does it return to the shards?
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