Ixthos Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 One issue that has been bugging me about the traveller excerpt is it doesn't make sense when one considers the letters. Hoid was on Sel before he was on Scadrial, as the events of Hero of Ages take place after Elantris Being on Sel, Hoid likely knew that Aona and Skai were dead Thus Hoid, when on Scadrial and seeing Ati and Leras die would know that at least four were dead When he talks with Frost, he only mentions Ati and Leras Frost indicates that he knows, and that he has been watching Logically, Hoid would conclude he has been watching everywhere and so already knows about Aona and Skai, and doesn't mention them to Frost Three hundred years later, he sends a letter pointing out that Aona and Skai are dead The easiest solution would be the writing could be changed, or that Hoid could have been reiterating to Frost about events he might not have been watching at the time, but it still doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journey Before Pancakes Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 What's to say he wasn't just omitting information? That seems like a Hoid thing to do. He basically spends all his time selectively giving out information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Investor Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Hoid was surprised that Frost was watching. He might just expect that Frost rarely watches, and thus the mention of "In case you have turned a blind eye to that disaster", cause he might or might not have been watching at the time. Plus the events of Dom and Dev happened thousands of years before Ruin and Preservation's showdown, so that could explain why Hoid didn't mention it at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ElephantEarwax Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 It was a long time. That is old news for them, I'm reasonably certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatikis Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Ixthos said: One issue that has been bugging me about the traveller excerpt is it doesn't make sense when one considers the letters. Hoid was on Sel before he was on Scadrial, as the events of Hero of Ages take place after Elantris Being on Sel, Hoid likely knew that Aona and Skai were dead Thus Hoid, when on Scadrial and seeing Ati and Leras die would know that at least four were dead When he talks with Frost, he only mentions Ati and Leras Frost indicates that he knows, and that he has been watching Logically, Hoid would conclude he has been watching everywhere and so already knows about Aona and Skai, and doesn't mention them to Frost Three hundred years later, he sends a letter pointing out that Aona and Skai are dead The easiest solution would be the writing could be changed, or that Hoid could have been reiterating to Frost about events he might not have been watching at the time, but it still doesn't make sense. Aona and Skai died long before the events of Mistborn Era1. Ati and Leras were a recent event that were directly applicable to Hoid's point. Hoid assumed Frost was unaware of this because it was so recent.That the shardic intents are dangerous. The message seems to be that if Ati turned bad imagine what a bad man with a bad intent might do (Rayse/Odium). The letter is reinforcing the point that Odium is dangerous. It is a last ditch effort to get Frost involved in the conflict. Rayse seems to have some beef with Frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthos Posted May 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 I am seeing the letter as more plausible now, though it still feels a little of a stretch. After talking to Frost in that scene it does specifically seem Hoid is referencing Odium having his own goals. It might be another shard or some other threat, but if he was talking about "I would not worry about my vendetta" applying to Odium, mentioning his other victims would also be something to bring up. I do see how it could work otherwise - there have been stranger conversations in real life. It could go either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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