Leyrann Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, LopenTheTwoArmedHerdazian said: An art cannot be inherently evil. Its users are those who can be good or evil. That is like saying murder is not inherently evil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Leyrann said: That is like saying murder is not inherently evil. If someone is suffering, and the only way to help them is to kill them, is it still evil? P.S. True, most Hemalurgists are still evil, but you do have things such as Spook's plan where dying metalborn get themself spiked to pass on their powers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ElephantEarwax Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 I forgot about that. Respect for Spook. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 49 minutes ago, kenod said: If someone is suffering, and the only way to help them is to kill them, is it still evil? There will always be an area where people disagree. Something alike certainly exists with hemalurgy. From what I have seen, however, the Dark Alley does not even consider this line to exist, instead spiking unwilling newcomers for powers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ElephantEarwax Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Leyrann said: There will always be an area where people disagree. Something alike certainly exists with hemalurgy. From what I have seen, however, the Dark Alley does not even consider this line to exist, instead spiking unwilling newcomers for powers. Occasionally, most of the spikes aren't invested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ElephantEarwax said: Occasionally, most of the spikes aren't invested. So you just randomly stab them with metal spikes that don't do anything? Or are you being pedantic and interpreting what I said as giving them powers, instead of taking their powers for yourself? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ElephantEarwax Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, Leyrann said: So you just randomly stab them with metal spikes that don't do anything? Or are you being pedantic and interpreting what I said as giving them powers, instead of taking their powers for yourself? All of the above. They all are accurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ElephantEarwax said: All of the above. They all are accurate. Well, I'm going to say it is generally accepted to call randomly stabbing people for no reason other than stabbing them evil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forgetful Archivist Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, Leyrann said: Well, I'm going to say it is generally accepted to call randomly stabbing people for no reason other than stabbing them evil. Who says this? Are tattoo artists evil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Forgetful Archivist said: Who says this? Are tattoo artists evil. "for no reason other than stabbing them" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ElephantEarwax Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 So, if I pay someone to stab someone they are not evil, because they had money as a motive? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forgetful Archivist Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Leyrann said: "for no reason other than stabbing them" dentists are always stabbing me in the gums for no reason and they aren't... wait you may have a point, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ElephantEarwax said: So, if I pay someone to stab someone they are not evil, because they had money as a motive? You are evil for getting someone stabbed for no reason at all (no reason for you). The person doing the stabbing can be considered evil because he is willing to do evil things for personal gain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forgetful Archivist Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Leyrann said: You are evil for getting someone stabbed for no reason at all (no reason for you). The person doing the stabbing can be considered evil because he is willing to do evil things for personal gain. What if your doing the stabbing for altruistic purposes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, The Forgetful Archivist said: What if your doing the stabbing for altruistic purposes? 1 hour ago, Leyrann said: There will always be an area where people disagree. Something alike certainly exists with hemalurgy. From what I have seen, however, the Dark Alley does not even consider this line to exist, instead spiking unwilling newcomers for powers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidpen Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 This is seriously hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ElephantEarwax Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 But, in giving people a cookie with spikes they are stabbing themselves, so they are the evil ones. Not the DA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gancho Libre Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 It depends on the situation A soldier isn't evil if he stabs someone, for example. Granted, if the person he stabs is Invested, he will become a hemalurguic practitioner (as in, he practices hemalurgy), but that's not his fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ElephantEarwax Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Kinda like Spook and his pewter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gancho Libre Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 well, that soldier was evil, but not because of hemalurgy, because of Ruin's influence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, ElephantEarwax said: But, in giving people a cookie with spikes they are stabbing themselves, so they are the evil ones. Not the DA. They are being unwittingly coerced into stabbing themselves by a knowing instigator, the DA. Therefore, the DA can be considered responsible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Leyrann said: They are being unwittingly coerced into stabbing themselves by a knowing instigator, the DA. Therefore, the DA can be considered responsible. For what? Handing out free magic? The souls of most newcomers don't contain much Investiture that would be useful to us so we don't typically harvest anything from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Meeker Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Uh guys? You got @Voidus involved! Y'all be screwed. Later.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mraize said: Y'all be screwed. You mean spiked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Meeker Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, Archer said: You mean spiked. No what I meant is that you be spiked with the ALMIGHTY STICK of hemalurgy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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