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5th ideal + shards and spren


Themasterhunter

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Oathbringer spoilers!

 

Which ideal gives you shardplate?

is radiant shardplate inhabited by a spren?

what advantages does radiant shardplate have over normal plate?

 

Are shards basically just really powerful spren?

could a shard betray its name?

do shards need planets? 

 

Sorry About the long list of questions 

 

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48 minutes ago, Themasterhunter said:

Oathbringer spoilers!

I suggest you to simply put in the Title the [OB] prefix so everyone could see there are possible spoiler in it.

49 minutes ago, Themasterhunter said:

Which ideal gives you shardplate?

In the book there is a reference to a Radiant gaining his Plate at the 4th Oath, but we don't know if this is shared among all the orders.

50 minutes ago, Themasterhunter said:

is radiant shardplate inhabited by a spren?

We don't know, there are theory about. Some believe the Plates are made of a bunch of lesser Spren together.

50 minutes ago, Themasterhunter said:

what advantages does radiant shardplate have over normal plate?

Again we don't know, it's possible there is no difference at all. Of course the Radiant could stacks a lot of Stormlight into themself and then let the Plate fuels from that rather from a breakable gemstone. It's also showed the Radiant could summon and de-summon their Plate at will. Lastly (and I believe more important) the Plate could feed of the Stomlight leaked by the Radiant and therefore They could exploit an intrinsic leaking for an useful task.

53 minutes ago, Themasterhunter said:

Are shards basically just really powerful spren?

Here it's hard to reply. We could argue the Shards are loosely powerful Spren of sort but probably this would not really figure how much greater the Shards are.

We could try to use an analogy. If a Shard is an ocean, a Spren would be mostly a glass of water.

Probably I need to make a little digression, the Power of Creation wants to be used and if no one direct it. It will start to develop a Mind of his own. More Investiture uncared you left alone and faster this happen. A Shard is this huge amount of power but usually it's controlled by a mortal mind and therefore this is strictly speaking different from a Spren that is a bunch of Investiture who became sentient....There will be more to say but probably I already started to present stuffs in a messy way.

59 minutes ago, Themasterhunter said:

could a shard betray its name?

Strictly speaking they can't because their own power is tied to that trait of yours. A Shard will deeply influence his holder (the canon term is Vessel) to align him/her to the Shard's trait (there is not yet a canon name for that but it's mainly defined as intent or mandate). A Vessel could filter the Shard's intent to a degree but it will be mostly in the context of his interpretation of the trait. To say, Tanavast's sense of Honor could be different from another guy's one and therefore if both of them become Honor in different times...They will become two different kind of Honor.

1 hour ago, Themasterhunter said:

do shards need planets? 

They don't but mainly many Shards decide to invest themself into a planet because they wants to fuitfill their intent probably

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On 1/7/2018 at 1:20 AM, Themasterhunter said:

do shards need planets? 

To add to what Yata said, Shards have a secondary intent they inherited from Adonalsium, which influences them to do things.

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Do all the shards have a 'secondary' imperative of some degree, to create?

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You could say this.


On 1/7/2018 at 1:20 AM, Themasterhunter said:

Are shards basically just really powerful spren?

Technically, yes(but that's only because Spren existed first). Spren/Seons/Skaze/Unmade are all Splinters of Shards, so I'd refer to Spren as very small Shards.

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