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[OB] Possible evidence of a radiant with Shardplate

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We know that lashings don't work well with shardplate, could it be that other surges are also hindered by plate, so she dismisses it and summons it as needed in a fight?

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@Completeshards We don't actually know that as we see in several of Dalinar's visions radiants using surges including Lashings with plate on. This leads to the interesting question about what is different about Plate post recreance for which there are many theories of which I think the most popular is that Shardplate used to be made of 'cousin' or 'lesser' spren to the Nahel bond, windspren for windrunners, creationspren for lightweavers etc and that these broke in a similar way to the lead spren at the Recreance

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2 minutes ago, Dlyol said:

We don't actually know that as we see in several of Dalinar's visions radiants using surges including Lashings with plate on.

Lashing other Radiants in their plate is not possible according to the visions. When Dalinar asks the Radiant why he isn't wearing his plate in one of the rerun visions, the Radiant is like "Duh, I couldn't lash you if you were in your plate." So, a Windrunner or Skybreaker seem to be able to lash themselves when wearing plate but cannot lash others who are wearing plate. 

Then again, so many "known" things are turning out to be wrong that maybe, in this "modern" era, the characters will learn to lash others who are wearing plate.

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10 minutes ago, Dlyol said:

@Completeshards We don't actually know that as we see in several of Dalinar's visions radiants using surges including Lashings with plate on.

As @CaptainRyan said, their own plate doesn't interfere with their lashings, only other people's plate. This is likely because each persons plate is filled with investiture that is keyed to their own spiritweb, much like how

Minor Mistborn spoilers:

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A Feruchemist can't use someone else's metalminds because different peoples investiture is not compatible without tinkering.

 

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@CaptainRyan @Cowmanthethird That is all true and is a good spot which I hadn't made but its completely orthogonal to my point that there isn't any evidence that Jasnah would need to dismiss her plate in order to Surgebind in the ways that she was at this moment

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Maybe but we haven' seen what would happen with stepping/peeking into the shadesmar with plate on, which is nececssary for soulcasting which is Jasnahs primary way of fighting.

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1 minute ago, Dlyol said:

@CaptainRyan @Cowmanthethird That is all true and is a good spot which I hadn't made but its completely orthogonal to my point that there isn't any evidence that Jasnah would need to dismiss her plate in order to Surgebind in the ways that she was at this moment

Good call. I misquoted you instead of @Completeshards. Sorry mate. By way of apology, have an upvote! :) 

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Has anyone considered that Rock used a shardbow? Do we have an explanation for that? Might he have used shardplate?

Granted, he didn't mention anything about a spren in his pov, but there was quite a bit of time between that and the fight with Amaram.

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Oh oh oh oh!  I just came across this!  In the chapter where Dalinar brings Venli into a vision:

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He fell beside the hole’s perimeter, and stretched one hand toward Venli. His other ground against the rock wall, hand scraping the stone. Something flashed around his arm. Lines of light, a framework that covered his body. His fingers didn’t bleed as they scraped the stone.

So Dalinar is reaaallllly close to getting his Shardplate too!

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