Fifth of Daybreak Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Could a Copper also work to hide minds like the Aviar do? It protects from emotional allomancy. If so, it's not an unreasonable assumption that Iyatil could have used a coppercloud to protect them from predators and grab an Aviar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naerin Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Fifth of Daybreak said: Could a Copper also work to hide minds like the Aviar do? It protects from emotional allomancy. If so, it's not an unreasonable assumption that Iyatil could have used a coppercloud to protect them from predators and grab an Aviar. I don't have a WoB on this (not sure if there is one or not) but I would presume that a coppercloud would offer at least something similar by way of protection. As you said it protects against emotional allomancy, which is a mental interaction. And there does seem to be a great deal of flexibility in how the different magic systems (or subsystems, really, since it is all one magic system) interact, since many seem to work on similar underlying principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmithki Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Wait, where do we know she is an allomancer from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth of Daybreak Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, Blacksmithki said: Wait, where do we know she is an allomancer from? We don't, (I assume) I'm spitballing possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmithki Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, Fifth of Daybreak said: We don't, (I assume) I'm spitballing possibilities. Oh okay, sorry, misunderstood you. Besides, with allomancy being genetic I'm not sure how she would be, being from southern scadrial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth of Daybreak Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blacksmithki said: Oh okay, sorry, misunderstood you. Besides, with allomancy being genetic I'm not sure how she would be, being from southern scadrial Spoiler This depends on the timeline, but she could also have access to a medallion that has acopper Bands of Mourning Spoilers Edited November 10, 2017 by Fifth of Daybreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Fifth of Daybreak said: Reveal hidden contents This depends on the timeline, but she could also have access to a medallion that has acopper Bands of Mourning Spoilers I considerated this but seems that also After centuries, First of the Sun is still extremely Dangerous. If a that would be enough to protects from hostile lifeforms...the Islands Will be already conquered. And as you said, I am unsure the timeline allows that (but probably Yes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IllNsickly Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 On 10/17/2017 at 10:23 AM, The Invested Beard said: It's name is Robert Paulson. He wrote Hatchet, yeah? I like your style, good Sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth of Daybreak Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, IllNsickly said: He wrote Hatchet, yeah? I like your style, good Sir. You're thinking of Gary Paulsen. This a fight club reference. But man that's a throwback. I haven't thought of those books since elementary school. 23 hours ago, Yata said: I considerated this but seems that also After centuries, First of the Sun is still extremely Dangerous. If a that would be enough to protects from hostile lifeforms...the Islands Will be already conquered. I think Sixth of the Dusk already shows that's not enough to protect them. Spoiler Sixth doesn't just rely on Kokerlii, or even his trapper training, but also on Sak's death visions. Even with an Aviar hiding cognitive markers, there are still dangers that can kill without sensing them, or that can overcome an Aviar's shielding such as Patji’s Finger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllNsickly Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, Fifth of Daybreak said: You're thinking of Gary Paulsen. This a fight club reference. But man that's a throwback. I haven't thought of those books since elementary school. Hide contents Ah, I thought the survival in a hostile environment thing fit nicely, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth of Daybreak Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, IllNsickly said: Ah, I thought the survival in a hostile environment thing fit nicely, though. We can write this fanfic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllNsickly Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, Fifth of Daybreak said: We can write this fanfic. I am a fair proofreader and am capable of some minor editing. Creative Writing, however, has always presented issues for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Invested Beard Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 hours ago, IllNsickly said: He wrote Hatchet, yeah? I like your style, good Sir. No, but I like your style for bringing that up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoyBlu Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 I’m at the signing now. I’m sitting next to someone who was with Brandon earlier today. Brandon confirmed to him that Mraize has an Aviar. Mraize is not from first of the sun. There are clues in the book as to what the Aviar’s power is. Aviars are very rare at this point in time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 9:46 PM, JoyBlu said: I’m at the signing now. I’m sitting next to someone who was with Brandon earlier today. Brandon confirmed to him that Mraize has an Aviar. Mraize is not from first of the sun. There are clues in the book as to what the Aviar’s power is. Aviars are very rare at this point in time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great confirmation! I noticed that Mraize is the one carrying Ialai's chair into that big meeting, but he doesn't have appear to have the bird then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth of Daybreak Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) On 11/13/2017 at 10:46 PM, JoyBlu said: I’m at the signing now. I’m sitting next to someone who was with Brandon earlier today. Brandon confirmed to him that Mraize has an Aviar. Mraize is not from first of the sun. There are clues in the book as to what the Aviar’s power is. Aviars are very rare at this point in time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I ASKED ABOUT THE WRONG CHICKEN IN THE WRONG BOOK. Edited November 15, 2017 by Fifth of Daybreak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxilian Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 8:46 PM, JoyBlu said: I’m at the signing now. I’m sitting next to someone who was with Brandon earlier today. Brandon confirmed to him that Mraize has an Aviar. Mraize is not from first of the sun. There are clues in the book as to what the Aviar’s power is. Aviars are very rare at this point in time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was the one who asked Brandon while preparing books and I confirm this report =] 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllNsickly Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 9:46 PM, JoyBlu said: I’m at the signing now. I’m sitting next to someone who was with Brandon earlier today. Brandon confirmed to him that Mraize has an Aviar. Mraize is not from first of the sun. There are clues in the book as to what the Aviar’s power is. Aviars are very rare at this point in time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Umm... Clarification, please? The clues are in which book? 'Arcanum Unbounded' or in 'Oathbringer?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoyBlu Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, IllNsickly said: Umm... Clarification, please? The clues are in which book? 'Arcanum Unbounded' or in 'Oathbringer?' It was my understanding that there were clues in Oathbringer as to the powers that the green chicken granted. (But I heard that second hand) When I went through the line I confirmed that the green chicken was an Aviar but Brandon RAFO’d what powers the Aviar granted. I have not finished Oathbringer yet but I’m looking for those clues. Maybe @taxilian can clarify Edited November 16, 2017 by JoyBlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRyan Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 10/17/2017 at 5:52 PM, The One Who Connects said: Aether the story is not exactly canon, but we have a WoP that Aethers themselves might be canon when Brandon writes Dragonsteel. I'm really surprised no one has brought this up. We now have solid in book confirmation of aethers. From the first edition of the US Kindle version of Oathbringer page 838 [emphasis mine]: Quote “You got the aether out of it?” “The … what?” He [Mraize] strode over and pulled the red trousers out of the basket to inspect them Mraize's house cleaner washed aether stains from his trousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxilian Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 12 hours ago, JoyBlu said: It was my understanding that there were clues in Oathbringer as to the powers that the green chicken granted. (But I heard that second hand) When I went through the line I confirmed that the green chicken was an Aviar but Brandon RAFO’d what powers the Aviar granted. I have not finished Oathbringer yet but I’m looking for those clues. Maybe @taxilian can clarify He did not specify which book; if I were to guess, based on the context of the conversation, I would say it's more likely the clues are in WoR, but could be anywhere. I kinda wanted to just find them myself so didn't try to get specifics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcatw81 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Weren't the Aviar breeded and taken to the homeland? In Shinovar there are parrots or "our" chickens Edit: I believe chickens in Shinovar, from the Interlude of the Thaylen apprentice and I remember something about something similar to a green parrot when Shallan goes to the menagerie in the warcamps with Adolin and Kaladin as their bodyguard. Edited November 16, 2017 by blackcatw81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Alethi and most others call any bird a "chicken" no matter what it is (parrot, parakeet, duck, goose, etc). But it sounds like this "chicken" really is an Aviar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcatw81 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 12 hours ago, RShara said: Alethi and most others call any bird a "chicken" no matter what it is (parrot, parakeet, duck, goose, etc). But it sounds like this "chicken" really is an Aviar. Yes, it's said in the above posts, my fault. However: Quote Shin are known for raising and trading chickens, a species unique to this region of Roshar. They are also famous for their horses, and many varieties of fruit, such as strawberries, can only grow in the soil of Shinovar. The Aviars may be rare at this point but Spoiler the perpendicularity already exists on First of the Sun and Silverlight, where Iyatil, Mraize's master, is from, is already established in the CR, so I don't think there could be a place where they couldn't go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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