Popular Post Elena Posted September 19, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 BRING ON THE KALADIN/ELHOKAR BUDDY COMEDY WE ALL DESERVE #elhokarsredemption2k17 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heridfel Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) I greatly enjoyed these chapters. An end (or at least a pause) to "Renarin is faking being a Truthwatcher", and the same for Syl/Kaladin relationships. I don't know how that would work, don't want to know, but at least neither of them seem to show interest in it - more family than romance. Oh, and some more indication that Elhokar might end up a Lightweaver. Admitting truths to himself, seeing more Spren when he's around other Radiants... though I'd be just as happy if he ended up a squire to Kaladin. Edited September 19, 2017 by heridfel Thought about Elhokar 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yulerule Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Gumfrem...weird name. If I rearrange the vowels, I get Gemfrum. Which sounds like gem from, and people do get gems from them. So Renarin is a legit Truthwatcher, okay. It felt like he accidentally or semi accidentally healed Adolin. But the vision is interesting. The way Adolin talks about him, that he thinks a lot, but mentions only part of what he thinks about - that seems Truthwachery. Last thread, so much discussion about the wrist, goodbye now. Travangian, oh no, oh no, oh no. Kal knows about the Diagram it's, to some extent... Yay, Dalinar has the Honorblade and understands it's potential. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTiger Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Elhokar and Kaladin, off to save Alethkar... there is so much that could go wrong. Or hilariously. And, Taravangian is very suspicious. Where did he find a Radiant? I doubt it is Lift, she would more likely go to the Azish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashan’Elin Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Okay, just finished the chapters. Another awesome set, but now I'm worried what Mr. T is up too, if he really has a Radiant, and what Order that Radiant is... 6 minutes ago, Calderis said: Haven't even been able to finish the first chapter yet.... But seriously, the mental image of Syl on a headboard, cheering Kaladin on... "Harder, Kaladin! Harder! Oh yeah... That's it. Hit it" I'm.... Laughing and dying inside. I know Syl wants Kaladin to be happier, but this certainly an interesting way to go about it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yulerule Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Regarding the Parshmen. For some reason, I got the feeling that they didn't all uniformly transform into Stormform (Voidform) but might have transformed into Parshendi forms. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantlee Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Calderis said: Haven't even been able to finish the first chapter yet.... But seriously, the mental image of Syl on a headboard, cheering Kaladin on... "Harder, Kaladin! Harder! Oh yeah... That's it. Hit it" I'm.... Laughing and dying inside. "More tongue, you dour idiot!" Edited September 19, 2017 by dantlee 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Saw the Taravangian thing coming. I wonder if he'll still try to kill/betray Dadinar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catladyman Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, heridfel said: Oh, and some more indication that Elhokar might end up a Lightweaver. Admitting truths to himself, seeing more Spren when he's around other Radiants... though I'd be just as happy if he ended up a squire to Kaladin. I thought the same thing. Between his seeing Cryptics and come to realize self-aware truths, Elhokar seems like a definite Lightweaver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent34 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, yulerule said: Regarding the Parshmen. For some reason, I got the feeling that they didn't all uniformly transform into Stormform (Voidform) but might have transformed into Parshendi forms. That seems to be the case for at least one lot of them, warform raiding the grain store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yulerule Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I get the feeling the world will get smaller pretty soon, with the Oathgates and all. Looks like Voidbringers are focusing on Kholin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbishop Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Catladyman said: I thought the same thing. Between his seeing Cryptics and come to realize self-aware truths, Elhokar seems like a definite Lightweaver. Perhaps Elhokar will decide that Kaladin is taking too long, and will use the Honorblade to fly there - perhaps with some of Bridge 4? He'll get there, and realize that the Honorblade doesn't work - but will say the words and speak some truths (Like the ones he said here) and summon his Crypticblade - opening the gate, saving the day, and bolstering the kingdom. For a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Portz Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Welcome the latest Stormlight spin-off: Pornlight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Oh jeez. Syl the sex ed coach. The Sylblade. Kaladin already being jaded at being the radiant. Renarin using progression. Adolin musing with Gallant and feeling guilt over Sureblood. All the negotiations being exactly as rocky as one would expect when the world's greatest warlord asks if he can teleport troops directly inot your capital. Mr. T appearing. With a Radiant in tow, what the hell? Renarin's Glysblade. Too much to comment on coherently without reading it all again. But I have to say, my theory that Elhokar will be Odium's champion due to a budding resentment to Dalinar took a severe hit today. That said, saying you don't resent someone, and actually not resenting them are not the same thing. But, I am pretty sure we can put to rest the idea that a Kholin will be the champion of Odium. So maybe the champion will be a Son of Honor? They wanted all of this to come back anyway? And the voidbringers are getting different forms than the Stormform and sailing off for some reason? Why, where to? Edited September 19, 2017 by Stark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 My first thought was that Taravangian's "Radiant" was actually Palah. Possibly he figured out who she was awhile ago, possibly she just decided to surface. Either way he is definitely playing a deadly game. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi5 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I am thinking Taravangian's radiant is likely to be Jasnah. I need to find maps and notes about where she came back to see if it fits though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Darkness said: My first thought was that Taravangian's "Radiant" was actually Palah. Possibly he figured out who she was awhile ago, possibly she just decided to surface. Either way he is definitely playing a deadly game. She wouldn't have her blade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent34 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Darkness said: My first thought was that Taravangian's "Radiant" was actually Palah. Possibly he figured out who she was awhile ago, possibly she just decided to surface. Either way he is definitely playing a deadly game. To add to Steeldancer's point she wouldn't be talking to a spren either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PunSpren Posted September 19, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) This conflict with the voidbringers is going to be a lot more complicated than anyone thought! Sailing, stealing grain, negotiating! it almost seems like the parshmen of each region are collecting the attributes of that region. Farmlands parshmen steal grain, sea based parshmen take ships, parshmen near Azir negotiate. ...... What other notable trades/exports could be important to them? Edited September 20, 2017 by PunSpren spelling 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 30 minutes ago, Calderis said: Haven't even been able to finish the first chapter yet.... But seriously, the mental image of Syl on a headboard, cheering Kaladin on... "Harder, Kaladin! Harder! Oh yeah... That's it. Hit it" I'm.... Laughing and dying inside. Same here. Between this and Pattern checking out people in baths spren seem pretty pervy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 He also may have started with "I have your niece who happens to be a Radiant too." He literally would have no reason to obfuscate that, as they would see her immediately on arrival. So I don't think Jasnah is with Mr. T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+robardin Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 - Kaladin's discussions with Syl are starting to Go There. The concept of a Sylphrena Cheering Section when Kaladin eventually, uh, gets his turn at bat is going to drive a lot of fanfic I'm never, ever going to read. - So Elhokar was, in fact, simply excluded (or was not considered essential) for Dalinar's planning session where he Bondsmith'ed Shallan into a 3D projector. And he wasn't in the room when Aladar was, during the spanreeding to other world leaders. damnation. - Uh-oh. I think Dalinar is going to get to the point of "lending" the Windrunner blade to Elhokar. Especially since Elhokar still seems to think Kaladin could teach him something - why not teach him Windrunner Surgebinding? - Renarin's healing of Adolin carried overtones of what Shallan did with Bluth and even Gaz: show them an idealized version of themselves. Perhaps it's an interplay of Lightweaving with Progression? - Taravangian has a Radiant?! What? - What are the Voidbringers up to? Negotiating contracts with the Azish, stealing ships and grain... They're gearing up for the long haul, not just a war of destruction. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbishop Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stark said: And the voidbringers are getting different forms than the Stormform and sailing off for some reason? Why, where to? Awesome writing prompt. Quote Odium. ˈōdēəm/ n. "general or widespread hatred or disgust directed toward someone as a result of their actions." I think they are being led off to nurse their hatred. The parshendi fought the Alethi, but not with any especial relish. They viewed the war as a logical consequence of a necessary action - killing Gavilar to stop him from returning their gods. The parshmen, however, have been enslaved in chattel slavery for centuries. Now they are aware. Odium's intent is hatred, not simply destruction. Why not stoke that hatred of the formerly oppressed before turning them loose with no combat training? The Thrill even plays into it, as it encourages you to do terrible things - things that disgust or invoke loathing in others. Years of oppression and warfare have turned the humans of Roshar, especially the Alethi, into catalysts for Odium. Why waste that for a simple assault? Odium isn't Ruin, and even Ruin was more subtle than that. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashan’Elin Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, robardin said: - Renarin's healing of Adolin carried overtones of what Shallan did with Bluth and even Gaz: show them an idealized version of themselves. Perhaps it's an interplay of Lightweaving with Progression? I think that this is an excellent point. Lightweaving seems to have a lot to do with idealizing someone, and in Shallan's case, she interplays it with Transformation, showing people what they could transform into, maybe, whereas Renarin seems to mix it with his Progression to heal them like the idealized version. Maybe it has to do with their Cognitive Aspect, somehow? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightVoid Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Did anyone else catch onto Renarin discovering that horses are not native to Roshar? While he doesn't explicitly state it, he notes that they are not fit to survive on roshar on their own. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts