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I think she feeds off the spren in everything because kaladin mother says everything has a spren. but if that was true she could eat a rock and get stormlight tell me what you think. also, how do you think she can touch her spren windle?

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Wyndel explains why she can touch him

"you must be partially in the Cognitive Realm" 

As far as her ability, she has to be able to metabolize something to convert it to Stormlight. It's not spren, it's that she is partially a Cognitive being now, just like spren are completely Cognitive. So her body turns nutrients into Stormlight. 

http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1133#65

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ARGENT

Does Lift turn food into investiture directly or is it similar to the metals on--

BRANDON SANDERSON

Similar to the metals.

ARGENT

So like a gate?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Yes.

ARGENT

Okay, that’s good to know.

BRANDON SANDERSON

She can metabolize-- She can draw-- It’s not actually the food, it’s-- It’s not like the metals, not exactly. It’s not-- What she can do is she can metabolize into investiture instead of sugar. Does that make sense?

ARGENT

Yeah.

BRANDON SANDERSON

We metabolize food into sugar. She can metabolize it into investiture. Does that make sense?

ARGENT

That makes a lot of sense. So if she eats--

BRANDON SANDERSON

She’s got to have a blood sugar spike.

ARGENT

So if she eats like a cake it will give her more investiture--

BRANDON SANDERSON

Faster. It will give her faster.

ARGENT

Whereas if she eats a vegetable...

BRANDON SANDERSON

Vegetable... More calories is going to equal more. But the better comparison would be a sausage and bread. Because bread is a fast blood sugar spike and the sausage is not. And that’s how I’m working in my head. It’s kind of a magical version of a blood sugar spike and I have it happen to her faster than it could happen. Like normally you eat a piece of bread and your blood sugar spikes in a half hour, it’s going to go faster for Lift.

ARGENT

Her’s is like five minutes.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Her’s is like five minutes, but a sausage would be slower.

 

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So, fun question then.  If Lift is using food as a gate to investiture, like Scadrial's metals, what would happen if she went to Scadrial and used a connection medallion? Would she, while tapping connection from an unkeyed metalmind, be able to use food to fuel Allomancy?

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20 minutes ago, Stark said:

So, fun question then.  If Lift is using food as a gate to investiture, like Scadrial's metals, what would happen if she went to Scadrial and used a connection medallion? Would she, while tapping connection from an unkeyed metalmind, be able to use food to fuel Allomancy?

I think she'd still need the sDNA to channel the investiture into the correct allomantic form

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1 hour ago, Lazarus52980 said:

Now if she REALLY wants to make some stormlight, she just needs to drink a few cans of soda.  Lots of sugar means lots of investure super fast!  Maybe convert Horneater lager into soda?  Horneater peak dew?

Ha yes, this will be a hit in roshar.  but how rock would say it "this thing good but need shells".^_^^_^

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So Lift converts food into Investiture rather than glucose. A better question seems to be, can she NOT do so?

Like, does her body actually live on food any more, or is she completely Investiture driven, but with a human digestive system that has been Macgyvered into an Investiture engine?

What if she's become sort of like a bipedal Nightblood, someone who subsists completely on Investiture, except that she eats food to do it?

And can she draw on Investiture by sucking in Stormlight from a sphere the way "normal" Surgebinders do? That would be akin to the "what happens to Nightblood in a highstorm" question.
 

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On 9/8/2017 at 4:40 PM, Lazarus52980 said:

Fresh from the peaks is HPD! (Horneater Peak Dew) Now with more shells!

Power Thirst!  It's like Investiture in a can!  It's Investiture in a Can! It's INVESTITURE!

Drink our Liquid Awesomness and Darkness will never hold you down again!

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Was it theorized whether Lift can channel her investiture into the gems? I suppose she can as all Radiants can, but could we treat her as an unlimited supply of Stormlight? It would be especially usefull during the Weepings. As long as she has something to eat, the Investiture is available for those around her.

Also : can a solucaster with infused gems change rocks into food and give it to Lift? How efficient would it be if she had eaten that food? Possibly the law of diminishing returs would come into play, but an idea is interesting (and most likely discussed many times already). 

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4 hours ago, Hyarmenatan said:

Was it theorized whether Lift can channel her investiture into the gems? I suppose she can as all Radiants can, but could we treat her as an unlimited supply of Stormlight? It would be especially usefull during the Weepings. As long as she has something to eat, the Investiture is available for those around her.

Also : can a solucaster with infused gems change rocks into food and give it to Lift? How efficient would it be if she had eaten that food? Possibly the law of diminishing returs would come into play, but an idea is interesting (and most likely discussed many times already). 

I see no reason for her to not be able to fill gems. His Surges allow her ti emit Investiture (something I am unsure all' the order could do to be honest).

About Feed her with soulcasted food...I think It Will work really poorly. Soulcasting consume a lot of Investiture and Lift didn't seem to produce a lot of stormlight 

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On 9/8/2017 at 2:53 PM, robardin said:

So Lift converts food into Investiture rather than glucose. A better question seems to be, can she NOT do so?

Like, does her body actually live on food any more, or is she completely Investiture driven, but with a human digestive system that has been Macgyvered into an Investiture engine?

What if she's become sort of like a bipedal Nightblood, someone who subsists completely on Investiture, except that she eats food to do it?

And can she draw on Investiture by sucking in Stormlight from a sphere the way "normal" Surgebinders do? That would be akin to the "what happens to Nightblood in a highstorm" question.
 

I asked Sanderson if she could get Stormlight from spheres like normal or if it's just from food for her I was totally expecting a RAFO but he told me she can only get it from food. I also asked which it was related to her boon or her curse which he did RAFO.

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59 minutes ago, Laryyl said:

I asked Sanderson if she could get Stormlight from spheres like normal or if it's just from food for her I was totally expecting a RAFO but he told me she can only get it from food. I also asked which it was related to her boon or her curse which he did RAFO.

HOLY CRAP! ALL THE UPVOTES! 

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3 hours ago, Laryyl said:

I asked Sanderson if she could get Stormlight from spheres like normal or if it's just from food for her I was totally expecting a RAFO but he told me she can only get it from food. I also asked which it was related to her boon or her curse which he did RAFO.

Do you have a link or transcript for this? When was it? I'm sure I've seen this before but I'm wondering if there's anything more concrete or less paraphrased for officially documenting? Its an important one and good get :)

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“I got two powers,” Lift said. “I can slide around, awesome, and I can make stuff grow. So I could grow me some plants to eat?” “It would almost certainly take more energy in Stormlight to grow the plants than the sustenance would provide, as determined by the laws of the universe. And before you say anything, these are laws that even you cannot ignore.” 

And i have little doubt that she could feed allomancy with stormlight generated from metabolising food IF she can hack allomancy to allow it to accept that investiture. Here's one that goes the other way

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"Q: If someone used Hemalurgy to give Lift from Words of Radiance the ability to use Bendalloy Feruchemy, could she convert the nutrition she gets out of Feruchemy into stormlight?
 
A: Theoretically possible, I suppose."

 

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On 9/9/2017 at 6:53 AM, robardin said:

So Lift converts food into Investiture rather than glucose. A better question seems to be, can she NOT do so?

Like, does her body actually live on food any more, or is she completely Investiture driven, but with a human digestive system that has been Macgyvered into an Investiture engine?

What if she's become sort of like a bipedal Nightblood, someone who subsists completely on Investiture, except that she eats food to do it?

And can she draw on Investiture by sucking in Stormlight from a sphere the way "normal" Surgebinders do? That would be akin to the "what happens to Nightblood in a highstorm" question.
 

She seems to choose whether her food becomes Investiture or glucose. If she doesn't convert it to Investiture within a certain time frame she can't use it and has to eat more.

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2 hours ago, Extesian said:

Do you have a link or transcript for this? When was it? I'm sure I've seen this before but I'm wondering if there's anything more concrete or less paraphrased for officially documenting? Its an important one and good get :)

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And i have little doubt that she could feed allomancy with stormlight generated from metabolising food IF she can hack allomancy to allow it to accept that investiture. Here's one that goes the other way

 

No I don't. I asked him when he came to CO for the Arcanum Unbounded book signing so me and my friend were the only ones to hear him. I'm surprised I can't seem to find it anywhere there's been a Q/A with him, I thought others would have asked him.

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15 hours ago, Laryyl said:

I asked Sanderson if she could get Stormlight from spheres like normal or if it's just from food for her I was totally expecting a RAFO but he told me she can only get it from food. I also asked which it was related to her boon or her curse which he did RAFO.

Ok what? Yo. That's crazy. She can't breathe in storm light. That's crazy 

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On 9/8/2017 at 11:53 AM, Calderis said:

ARGENT

That makes a lot of sense. So if she eats--

BRANDON SANDERSON

She’s got to have a blood sugar spike.

My theory:  Brandon is being misleading here.  I think she has a hemalurgic spike made out of sugar!

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