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2 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

you dont need duralumin to pierce the skull. Vin shoots a coin straight through marsh's head with no mention or duralumin.

You may want to read that part again.

11 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

She does the same to a soldier during her attack on Keep Hasting.

The coin was shot through opened mouth.

12 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

"The healing process seemed to take forever"

Yeah, it seemed to take forever because he was lying there with broken bones in the middle of a duel. This doesn't make the fact that he managed to heal it up in time it took a man in Shardplate get up.

15 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

"Stormlight healing was far from instantaneous. It would be hours before he recovered"

That was a hit that would kill a normal man. His jaw was probably broken; yet he healed it up enough it be able to speak.
Also, his powers were from Honorblade which is less efficient than Nahel bond.

19 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

All evidence points to stormlight being slower.

Save for Compounding or shared unkeyed goldmind, all instances of Feruchemical gold healing were much slower than Stormlight.

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22 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

you dont need duralumin to pierce the skull. Vin shoots a coin straight through marsh's head with no mention or duralumin. She does the same to a soldier during her attack on Keep Hasting. We as readers often underestimate steel because practically every enemy of note can block its effects so easily, but coins propelled by steel seem to be around as fast as early musket balls.

All evidence points to stormlight being slower. And healing his legs enough to walk in 15 seconds or so won't be enough to save him from a headshot

 

Keep in mind our perception of the two healing methods is going to be a little warped since we hardly ever actually read the perspective of someone using gold. Also, I've generally seen Szeth as greatly downplaying stormlight's healing effects in our eyes (At this point he doesn't think it can heal shardblade wounds). A Radiant's healing seems to be far more efficient than Szeth's: hours to heal a jaw versus completely shattered legs healing in seconds? I'd actually put stormlight and gold about even, though I think the upper limit on how much health you can tap at once is higher than the amount of stormlight you can hold. 

I do think that a coin through the head will incapacitated the surgebinder for a non trivial amount of time, perhaps long enough for Vin to get close and repeatedly stab them in the face. Face stabbing > stormlight healing. 

Edit: second time to be ninja' d in an hour.

Keep in mind that gold may seem slower because a feruchemist will be judicious with their stores, whereas stormlight is just gonna heal whether the surgebinder wants it to or not. 

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1 minute ago, Oversleep said:

You may want to read that part again.

The coin was shot through opened mouth.

Yeah, it seemed to take forever because he was lying there with broken bones in the middle of a duel. This doesn't make the fact that he managed to heal it up in time it took a man in Shardplate get up.

That was a hit that would kill a normal man. His jaw was probably broken; yet he healed it up enough it be able to speak.
Also, his powers were from Honorblade which is less efficient than Nahel bond.

Save for Compounding or shared unkeyed goldmind, all instances of Feruchemical gold healing were much slower than Stormlight.

Vin still shot a coin into marsh's forehead hard enough to make it come out through the back of his head without duralumin

The shardbearer was stunned and took his sweet time staring at kal and wondering This post has been reported for attempting to skirt the rules just happened before he got up.

sure, storing wise feruchemy is slower. When you actually decide to use it feruchemy takes effect faster. Compounding/unkeyed don't affect speed of healing, just volume.

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13 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

Vin still shot a coin into marsh's forehead hard enough to make it come out through the back of his head without duralumin

She used duralumin. Also, it was not a coin, it was her earring. Hero Of Ages, Chapter 65, check for yourself.

13 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

Compounding/unkeyed don't affect speed of healing, just volume.

... except when you have cremtone of healing stored up you can use it how quickly you want. In normal circumstances people don't blow dynamite in their faces because they have some healing stored up.

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I would say that gold vs Light healing depends a LOT. Gold is far more powerful when you want it to be, but you have to have the stores. And for both, you have to actually have the Investiture tapped/breathed at the time of a mortal blow or you are done. For a normal ferring that doesn't save all the time for their whole life (ew... that'd suck), it just isn't feasible to do that more than maybe once or twice your whole life, assuming you don't use it regularly to heal minor injuries. Light, on the other hand, is plentiful. Light is much better for your run-of-the-mill warrior proto-Radiant, gold is much better if you only need the power rarely. And gold is of course superior if you are a compounder or have access to blank gold stores.

I personally think she could run the gauntlet easily up until TLR, who destroys any mortal except maybe someone else with a large powerset like Hoid is acquiring. It wouldn't even be difficult. Our current gamut of characters don't have both Surges and Plate, and without both it's not even a competition. Just hover outside of their reach and pelt them with coins. Anyone without Plate won't survive no matter how much Light they start with, and that includes Szeth. She would just keep drilling coins into them until they stay dead, since none of them have an effective defense against her coin shotguns. All it takes is one hit to slow down Szeth, not even a kill shot, and it's over. None of those would even get close to her. Shallan could pull some Lightweaving trickery, but it won't do anything other than prolong the fight, since she doesn't have the skill to fight and use effective illusions at the same time, or use Transformation at range. Anyone in Plate but with no Light can just be insta'd with a coin through the eye slit, which is easy with a couple seconds of atium. If this is post-Catacendre, then it'll take more luck, but she'd get it well before the Shardbearer could catch her. Btw, Sadeas is laughable, since he is carrying around a massive hunk of metal. Dalinar is the only one who could be dangerous, but you didn't say he has Light and knows how to use the Surges he has access to now.

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On 7/18/2017 at 8:58 AM, Rob Lucci said:

With all 16 metals, Vin would be unstoppable. Only the Lord Ruler would have a chance, in fact if he was fully aware of Vin he'd probably just break her neck or something.

It really depends if this is all at once. Because one on one with anyone, she'd kill them. Especially if there's any sort of concealed area. But all at once in an open area without the mists? It doesn't matter how she'd fare against any particular one-- there's too many.

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