Pagerunner Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 I seem to recall a WoB that goes something like this: Who's the oldest people in the cosmere that aren't Shards? Frost and Hoid. I saw it after March 27th of this year (because that's the last time I posted about my 'Frost is a Shard on Yolen' theory. Which most likely means that it was from an event in the past six months, although it is entirely possible I merely saw an older WoB around that time. Can anyone help me find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sovereign Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pagerunner said: Can anyone help me find it? Quote INTERVIEW: Aug 13th, 2014 Ask the Author: Brandon Sanderson (Verbatim) QUESTION Who is the oldest character we know? Can a person in Shardplate be Rioted or Soothed? What about Seeked? Could a Coinshot, in a fight, damage Shardplate? BRANDON SANDERSON Frost is almost certainly the oldest by a small amount. After that, Hoid. TAGS frost, hoid, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Pagerunner said: Can anyone help me find it? Since The Sovereign ninja'd, Here's the source link. https://www.goodreads.com/questions/109545-who-is-the-oldest-character-we-know-can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Sovereign said: Close, but that's not it. The WoB I'm looking for convinced me that Frost is not a Shard, which was a theory I had previously held. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Pagerunner said: Close, but that's not it. The WoB I'm looking for convinced me that Frost is not a Shard, which was a theory I had previously held. Hmmm. The only straight question and reply I can find is this one, which still doesn't seem like it fits what you say you got from it. Quote mysteriouspenguin What non-worldhopper character we've seen so far is the most cosmere-savy? Brandon Sanderson Frost or Sazed, most likely. I searched specifically for "Frost" and this answer and the one The Sovereign posted are the only two I can find that are a simple answer of two characters. Edited September 22, 2017 by Calderis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Calderis said: I searched specifically for "Frost" and this answer and the one The Sovereign posted are the only two I can find that are a simple answer of two characters. Problem with Frost it that there are several WoBs that do not mention him by name. Those are about the person Hoid wrote the letter to or "Recipient" and that stuff. We know Frost is still on Yolen: Quote Question During the events of Stormlight Archive, is Yolen still populated? Brandon Sanderson Yes... yes, I would say so since a letter is written to somebody on Yolen.source So if there was a WoB that there are no Shards on Yolen, that would settle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, Overstorm said: Problem with Frost it that there are several WoBs that do not mention him by name. Those are about the person Hoid wrote the letter to or "Recipient" and that stuff. We know Frost is still on Yolen: So if there was a WoB that there are no Shards on Yolen, that would settle it. True, but I was operating under the assumption that Page was correct in his memory of the answer containing Frost by name. I'll broaden my search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 It could be one that did not get into theoryland but was not put in the WoBinator yet. Which means going through events subforum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 It may not mention Frost and Hoid by name. The important parts were longevity, and the exclusion of Shards from the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Pagerunner said: It may not mention Frost and Hoid by name. The important parts were longevity, and the exclusion of Shards from the question. Uhh... it's gonna be hard. Do you happen to remember any word or phrase it contained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, Overstorm said: Uhh... it's gonna be hard. Do you happen to remember any word or phrase it contained? 'Shards' is about the only one. Maybe a variation of 'letter' or 'correspond,' and definitely something along the lines of 'longevity,' 'old,' or 'immortal.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckat Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 On 9/22/2017 at 9:21 AM, Pagerunner said: 'Shards' is about the only one. Maybe a variation of 'letter' or 'correspond,' and definitely something along the lines of 'longevity,' 'old,' or 'immortal.' Is this the quote you're looking for? Quote Q: We know that Hoid is really old. Is there anyone else around that same age who is not a Shardholder? A: Yes. He communicates with one of these people by a letter in one of them. Q: [inaudible] A: Not very many, let’s say that. [Source] (I found it mentioned in this post, which is probably where you first saw it.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 5 hours ago, luckat said: Is this the quote you're looking for? (I found it mentioned in this post, which is probably where you first saw it.) That was it! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 I'm looking for a WoB about an Elantrian wielding Nightblood. We have this one from a while ago: Quote Question Could an Elantrian wield Nightblood? Brandon Sanderson It's possible but would be very dangerous - you'd have to figure out a way to connect Nightblood with a local source of Investiture. But I remember seeing one that is much more recent, and much more specific. It stated that the Elantrian would have to draw Aons and swing Nightblood through them to "consume" the Investiture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18th Shard Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I seem to recall an essay Sanderson wrote about book popularity within the fantasy genre and how there were different levels of popularity, where if you're like Martin popular you get somewhat known outside the genre and get films, and then you have Hunger Games popularity where it kind of is a cultural thing. I feel like he used the phrase "transcends genre" but I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, 18th Shard said: I seem to recall an essay Sanderson wrote about book popularity within the fantasy genre and how there were different levels of popularity, where if you're like Martin popular you get somewhat known outside the genre and get films, and then you have Hunger Games popularity where it kind of is a cultural thing. I feel like he used the phrase "transcends genre" but I don't know. He's spoken about it on Reddit before, when people were discussing his sales figures. I couldn't track down the link, though, but maybe that will help you in your searching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 17 hours ago, 18th Shard said: I seem to recall an essay Sanderson wrote about book popularity within the fantasy genre and how there were different levels of popularity, where if you're like Martin popular you get somewhat known outside the genre and get films, and then you have Hunger Games popularity where it kind of is a cultural thing. I feel like he used the phrase "transcends genre" but I don't know. This? If you ever have problems tracking it down, check Brandon's gilded stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 28.09.2017 at 3:34 AM, The One Who Connects said: But I remember seeing one that is much more recent, and much more specific. It stated that the Elantrian would have to draw Aons and swing Nightblood through them to "consume" the Investiture. @The One Who Connects said it's this one: Quote Brandon Sanderson No, what you would have to do is open some conduit to the Dor that's persistent, like a light or something, and he will suck through that, he would probably end up sucking the whole Aon. Questioner Sucking Elantris itself? Brandon Sanderson Sucking Elantris itself would work, yeah, but you're gonna be in trouble if he sucks up the whole thing, which is totally possible. [source currently forbidden] It's Barnes & Noble from June 11th 2016. I don't have time to look for the transcription doc if there is any. I pulled it out of WoBinator 4000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Invested Beard Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Next band name idea: Sucking Elantris. I'm thinking post-punk industrial with some theramin thrown in for good measure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackYeti Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Does anyone remember a WoB that said that there might exist evil honorspren? I've tried searching theoryland, @Pagerunner's excellent excel document of Reddit WoBs (not to mention a search of Reddit itself), and I've tried searching google for it, but haven't been able to find it. Either I'm severely misremembering, or it's buried somewhere that I've haven't thought to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted October 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, BlackYeti said: Does anyone remember a WoB that said that there might exist evil honorspren? I've tried searching theoryland, @Pagerunner's excellent excel document of Reddit WoBs (not to mention a search of Reddit itself), and I've tried searching google for it, but haven't been able to find it. Either I'm severely misremembering, or it's buried somewhere that I've haven't thought to look. WoBinator is a glorious thing: Quote Blightsong Can honorspren, or any other type of Knight Radiant spren, be evil despite their relationship to Tanavast or Cultivation? Brandon Sanderson Yes, because I don't call the Shards good and evil. There are no good and evil Shards in my opinion, like and so, what's evil and what's not evil- you can totally have spren that are of Honor that you would consider evil. They have free will; they are much more strictly limited in that free will than we are, because of their nature as spren. It's very hard for most spren to every break an oath or to lie. That's just like- as manifestations of laws of nature makes it very hard for that to happen, but they can be cruel. source Is that it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackYeti Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, Overstorm said: WoBinator is a glorious thing: Is that it? Yes, it is! Thank's so much. Have all the upvotes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted December 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Looking for a WoB that Scadrial ended up with one of the better versions of Ruin there could be. Something about Ati, I guess. @Ookla, the Incalculable remembers it too, but neither of us could find it, not in Arcanum or even theoryland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzik Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 All I found was this https://wob.coppermind.net/events/256-oathbringer-london-signing/#e8685 But it seems to contradict you in that someone could interpret Ruin better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sovereign Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 So I remember reading a WoB that confirmed what each of Shallan's oaths/truths were but I can't find it on Theoryland or Arcanum... I believe it was formatted something like: 1: Life Before Death, Strength Before Weakness, Journey Before Destination. 2: I'm terrified. 3: I killed my father. 4: I killed my mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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