Origins of Feruchemy

[The Invested Beard]

Apologies in advance if there's another topic specifically for this, but I thought I'd posit a loose theory on something.

 

My brother and I were having a conversation about Feruchemy and the question came up, "If Allomancy comes from Lerasium/Preservation and Hemalurgy comes from Ruin, where does Feruchemy come from?" It seems obvious that it would come from both Preservation and Ruin, however for this to be true, I would think that it would only be possible if the shards were being held by the same vessel. Now we know that Sazed currently holds both shards, however Feruchemy existed long before this came to pass. So we then asked ourselves, when was the last time Preservation and Ruin were held by the same vessel. The answer? Adonalsium. So what we're thinking is that Feruchemy was one of the original systems and was broken up into allomancy and hemalurgy once the two shards became separate. As a bonus, this would also explain how Hoid is in possession of Feruchemical abilities. He could have come into that gifting before Adonalsium was split. His ability to use Feruchemy always bugged me because I could never figure out how he would have gotten it in the first place.

 

Any thoughts? I'm probably way out in left field on this, I know.

[Yata]

There is some theories about, the mine is this.

[Navy Seon]

It could just be like a hurricane. When hot air meets cold air, a vortex. Same concept here, two powers, push vs pull and when clashed together for scadrial, the result was feruchemy.

[The Invested Beard]

It could just be like a hurricane. When hot air meets cold air, a vortex. Same concept here, two powers, push vs pull and when clashed together for scadrial, the result was feruchemy.

 

Yes but even if that were the case, how at that point did it become a hereditary trait of the Terris people?

[Navy Seon]

They were in the place where the powers clashed.

EDIT:

Never mind. Ignore that.

What if what i said before about a hurricane created a pool or bead or something which one human stumbled upon or multiple humans, and devoured all of the energy/power/content which made that tribe feruchemists.

Edited February 9, 2016 by Windrunner
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[Volratho]

The major problem with this is that Humans on Scadrial did not exist in the time of Adonalsium.

As we know these humans were created with investiture of both Ruin and Preservation, and Feruchemy has been around for quiet some time. Allomancy and Hemalurgy are relatively new players in the game.

You could argue that Feruchemy is the original magic of the planet from the time of the creation, and that when TRL ascended he saw the two individual powers for what they were and created both Allomancy and Hemalurgy.

[followthelight]

I actually started thinking along these lines whilst reading the last few Mistborn releases.  I think that there is a hint in Feruchemy to the wider power of Adonalsium/magic in the Cosmere.

 

There are some similarities between the Feruchemical power of a particular metal and that of some of the shards.  For example;

 

Duralumin stores connection.  This is used in Bands of Mourning by foreigners to speak a native language they have no understanding of, and it is clearly demonstrated that this is driven by the location that they are in.  It is a connection to a place, not a person.  This is similar to how Dominion's magic works on Sel.

 

Nicrosil stores investiture.  Endowment's entire magic system is based on passing investiture back and forth.

 

Copper stores memories, but is the only one of the metals where something is lost in it's use.  Similar to Ruin's magic system.

 

Things get even more speculative at this point, and I'm not sure if I'm trying to force this theory, but I think there could be more similarities between Electrum/Determination/Devotion and Gold/Health/Cultivation.

 

 

 

Leras also mentions in the Mistborn: Secret Histories story the significance of there being 16 metals and how this is a hint to something, he congratulates himself on being clever for it, but then I didn't pick up on any hints why.  Obviously there are also 16 shards, could be related or not.

[Navy Seon]

There was already allomancy before the ascension.

EDIT:

I think you misinterpreted my suggestion. That after creation of humans maybe 1 10 100 1000 years after, the terrismen stumbled upon the power.

But it being the original magic makes sense too.

Or maybe feruchemy was the result of the original human who was invested with both powers. And as we know, two fused powers makes a new power. He uses hemalurgys power of sucking and giving and allomancys self body source and actual ability. But when he trapped Ruin the humans then became slightly more preservation than ruin or at least had his influence and became allomancers which explains why there are no person hemalugists.

[Windrunner]

Navy Seon, please stop posting multiple times in a row. In the last two hours, I've fixed a double post, a triple post, and a quadruple post. I've seen you edit your posts, so you clearly know how to use the edit feature. Please make use of that same feature in the future if you wish to add more to a post.

[King's Twit]

I believe that Feruchemy comes from Lerasium. We know that Lerasium can be used to rewrite your sDNA in many different ways than becoming a Mistborn if you know what you are doing (if you have the right intent). I think it is reasonable that a few individuals in the Terris population gained Feruchemy, and then it eventually spread to the rest of the Terris population, much as Allomancy has done in the Nobles and the Skaa.

 

The Terris would likely have needed someone to guide them in using Lerasium in this way. The person who did this was likely either Leras or Hoid. Leras because it is his god metal that is being used and the Terris people worship Him, or Hoid because he has access to Feruchemy as well, and so could have gained it in the same way and at the same time as the Terris people.

 

Then Hoid comes back thousands of years later, during era 1, to steal a second bead of Lerasium to become a Mistborn.

Edited February 9, 2016 by King's Twit