NathanielHellman Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 SPOILERS for Words of Radiance After Kaladin defeats Szeth he takes possession of the honorblade Szeth used so my question is can Kaladin bound to it while he is bounded to Syl? This might have been answered somewhere before, but I don't know where to find it and am interested to hear what people have to say on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirTraconus Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 There is a WoB that says that you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yeah He could but There is no benefit to use it I suppose. The Honorblade are less efficent than a SprenBlade and you will use stormlight faster. But for example if Kal bond with the Taln's Honorblade he may access to 4 Surge. Pretty cool ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneSpren Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 There already is a thread about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Yeah He could but There is no benefit to use it I suppose. The Honorblade are less efficent than a SprenBlade and you will use stormlight faster. But for example if Kal bond with the Taln's Honorblade he may access to 4 Surge. Pretty cool ;-) If only someone knew where the storming honorblade is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaukan-son-Hasweth Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 If only someone knew where the storming honorblade is. Wait... i thought Dalinar had Taln's honorblade...the one he hid from Amaram Wasn't that the one he left behind at the top of uritiru because the stormfather wanted him to be a radiant withoud shards. Or did i miss something big there??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Wait... i thought Dalinar had Taln's honorblade...the one he hid from Amaram Wasn't that the one he left behind at the top of uritiru because the stormfather wanted him to be a radiant withoud shards. Or did i miss something big there??????? You did indeed, the one Dalinar had was different from the one described as Taln's earlier. And now no one knows where the real one is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Wait... i thought Dalinar had Taln's honorblade...the one he hid from Amaram Wasn't that the one he left behind at the top of uritiru because the stormfather wanted him to be a radiant withoud shards. Or did i miss something big there??????? It's a normal Shardblade, you may notice how it scream when Dalinar bonding with the Stormfather. And the Stormfather itself call the blade a "mostruosity". We know that the Honorblades don't scream when a Radiant touch them (thanks to Kal after his battle with Szeth). And of course the descriptions are different 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaukan-son-Hasweth Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 When i think about it, it all adds up. I don't know how i could forget those things...Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CthulhuSpren Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 What if kaladin wielding the windrunner honourblade causes a boost in power of his abillities, Mistborn spoilers: like vin with her bronze earring? And would you need to wield the blade to gain access to that extra power? pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetLift Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 You did indeed, the one Dalinar had was different from the one described as Taln's earlier. And now no one knows where the real one is. WHAT!? I missed that. Maybe Dalinar and Elhokar hid it, or someone took it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwelfthOfSnackTime Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 What if kaladin wielding the windrunner honourblade causes a boost in power of his abillities, Mistborn spoilers: like vin with her bronze earring? And would you need to wield the blade to gain access to that extra power? pure speculation. I'd love to see what Windrunner Compounding does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I believe it is said it would technically make his powers stronger, but there's no point in practical use since if you want a stronger effect you can just use more stormlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupis Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yeah He could but There is no benefit to use it I suppose. The Honorblade are less efficent than a SprenBlade and you will use stormlight faster. But for example if Kal bond with the Taln's Honorblade he may access to 4 Surge. Pretty cool ;-) I would assume he could use the honour blade as a sword and Syl as a shield without her having to constantly switch forms. I'd say that was a benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 From what I understand, Syl shapeshifting is more an advantage than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_am_NOT_fire Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Allrighty, so this idea is interesting, but the bond with an honor blade is different to the nahel bond, since there are no oathes. So how would these two bonds interact? Would Kaladin's surgebinding be amplified, but he would have to use more stormlight? Or would something bad happen. Another situation like this is Szeth with Nightblood and possibly a spren as well (though I personally doubt that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Nightblood is basically a mechanical spren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baby Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Also, I don't think this is made clear, but if a radiant who has spoken all 5 oaths fought against their respective herald, who'd win? As in, are honorblades when used to their full capacity stronger than radiants who have spoken all 5 oaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_am_NOT_fire Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm pretty sure that a Herald would win, after all, they have had thousands of years of practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 In terms of pure power levels and stormlight efficiency Radiant could have an upper hand, but Heralds have literally thousands of years of expierience and it's not impossible that they can have other powers. Question about this and Heralds being native to Roshar were RAFO'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) According to the in-world book Words of Radiance, the Herald Ishar threatened to destroy all surgebinders who refused to have the oaths thrust on to them, if I remember correctly. Heralds are scary... Edited November 27, 2015 by CognitivePulsePattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baby Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Well, lets take out herald and add someone who is just extremely good at using the honorblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Well, Szeth had years of practice with the Windrunner honorblade and is probably the most proficient person who isn't a Herald with it. Kaladin beat him after three oaths. I'd say it's possible for an experienced level 5 Radiant with years of practice to beat their Hwrald. Difficult, but definitely possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belcyrlis Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 According to the in-world book Words of Radiance, the Herald Ishar threatened to destroy all surgebinders who refused to have the oaths thrust on to them, if I remember correctly. Heralds are scary... Maybe scary, but Ishar was probably doing it to protect people from surgebinders who misused their powers. My question on this is, did the Heralds make the stages of power that are opened up by saying the words? Was it all just one level that you practiced with and gradually got better, or did you still have the five tiers of power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Maybe scary, but Ishar was probably doing it to protect people from surgebinders who misused their powers. My question on this is, did the Heralds make the stages of power that are opened up by saying the words? Was it all just one level that you practiced with and gradually got better, or did you still have the five tiers of power? I think they still had the same powers, but Ishar somehow gated their progression behind the oaths... Somehow. And I agree that Ishar did what is best, it is just that it doens't stop what is best from being scary. Edited November 28, 2015 by CognitivePulsePattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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