WeiryWriter Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 And Chapter 5 has been posted! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 At this rate, they're going to have half the book up online before it's released... (Is that going to stop me from going and reading the next chapter? No. Of course not. There are few among us who can make that sort of willpower save.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 So that answers the question on the storing-sickness thread. It looks like Feruchemical gold will first wipe out the symptoms, but then takes some more juice to get at the underlying pathogen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 “She is the only Steelrunner I know of who could possibly be involved in something like this. She vanished about a month ago after acting… very erratically. Claimed that she was being visited by the spirit of her dead brother.” Oh dear. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) “She is the only Steelrunner I know of who could possibly be involved in something like this. She vanished about a month ago after acting… very erratically. Claimed that she was being visited by the spirit of her dead brother.” Oh dear. Oh well obviously that's just Ruin being all Ruinous... but wait.... Edited September 21, 2015 by Kurkistan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 He’d always found it odd that so many died when they were old, as logic said that was the point in their lives when they’d had the most practice not dying. That's a very... Pratchett thing to say. He likes to throw this idea every other book. “Well, you know,” Wayne said. “It’s like I often say…” “Greet every morning with a smile. That way it won’t know what you’re planning to do to it?” “No, not that one.” “Until you know it ain’t true, treat every woman like she has an older brother what is stronger than you are?” “No, not… Wait, I said that?” Am I the only one who sees Pratchett everywhere in this chapter? An exchange like this is very common during the City Watch subseries, usually between Vimes and Carrot. The etched letters over the top proclaimed, in High Imperial, Wasing the Always of Wanting of Knowing. Wait, did we already know that High Imperial was Spook's dialect?! She vanished about a month ago after acting… very erratically. Claimed that she was being visited by the spirit of her dead brother.” Hello, Hemalurgy. “Idashwy,” he said. It was pronounced in the Terris manner, eyedash-wee. So what's the Terris manner? First vowel is stressed and pronounced as it appears in the alphabet? So Wax - Asinthew - would be ey-sinthü? Marasi missed a step, stumbling into Lieutenant Ahlstrom’s desk. Did we know about this cameo? The only reference to Peter I could recall was the Ahlstrom Square. Man, I need to reread The Alloy of Law approximately ASAP... zinctongues That's a clever evolution of language. I approve. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Oh well obviously that's just Ruin being all Ruinous... but wait.... Perhaps it's Kelsier? Fits the MO - corrupted nobles being killed. I mean, who else could it be? But he doesn't have any Ruinous power, does he? Unless... he got Harmony's extra Ruin? And even if he did, I don't think he'd be working with the Set. I can't imagine Harmony's doing it. My other idea is that any Soother or Rioter could do it, but I don't think the power is capable of that. Vin could send mental commands to her koloss, not show them hallucinations. Not that she tried... Edited September 21, 2015 by Moogle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter Posted September 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Wait, did we already know that High Imperial was Spook's dialect?! Yeah we did, it comes up at one point in Alloy. Also did we know the bit about gold Feruchemy and alcohol before? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Anamaximder Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 " I'm not drunk, I'm testing out different states of sobriety." Best quote ever. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Also did we know the bit about gold Feruchemy and alcohol before? We did not. Not surprising, but it is new information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Also did we know the bit about gold Feruchemy and alcohol before? We knew Allomantic pewter makes it pretty hard, if not downright impossible, to get drunk. Hemalurgic gold is even better at healing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Oh well obviously that's just Ruin being all Ruinous... but wait.... Perhaps it's Kelsier? Fits the MO - corrupted nobles being killed. I mean, who else could it be? But he doesn't have any Ruinous power, does he? Unless... he got Harmony's extra Ruin? And even if he did, I don't think he'd be working with the Set. I can't imagine Harmony's doing it. My other idea is that any Soother or Rioter could do it, but I don't think the power is capable of that. Vin could send mental commands to her koloss, not show them hallucinations. Not that she tried... Well, we know from some oblique answers to questions that Something was influencing Miles - presumably the same Something that sent Bloody Tan 'round the bend. The question is what, and how? Is it possible that something out there can hitch onto the same channels that Harmony can use to speak to and/or listen to folks? Sort of a tapping into the godphone, so to speak. " I'm not drunk, I'm testing out different states of sobriety." Best quote ever. The promise of more Wayne shenanigans makes me inordinately gleeful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Is it possible that something out there can hitch onto the same channels that Harmony can use to speak to and/or listen to folks? Sort of a tapping into the godphone, so to speak. That's kind of what I was thinking too. Somebody highjacking the Hemalurgic landline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathoth Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Ive been noticing the Pratchettisms too. Im not complaining about them, I just think they are fun to see. We get to know a bit about how the Terris live and Wax's past, I find that interesting. And Wayne, rusts I love Wayne. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeBlood Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I can't imagine Harmony's doing it. Maybe he's trying to talk Idashwy out of whatever she's trying to do. Also I was not expecting the terris people to go amish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) “You just recognized this because the killer was making others do his work for him, which is an expertise of yours.” You know you're good when a Ladrian tells you off for making others do your work for you. Interesting that it seems Terrismen haven't had elongated features in a long time. Maybe Harmony's fault when he fixed human physiology? Edited September 22, 2015 by natc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathoth Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I was thinking that XD Which one of you has Breeze as an ancestor again?Wasnt the elongation because they were castrated? I made this weird connection a minute ago while trying to sleep, it is probably nonsense, but I have to put it here: The steelrunners brother is the man Wayne killed. Anyway, how does Scadrial have months when it doesnt have a moon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Weren't the infamous elongated features a result of the Terrismen being eunuchs? In other words, not a genetic trait, but rather an environmental one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindrunnerRadiant Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Hmm... Hmm... At this point it is safe to say that the Set is likely using Hemalurgy. Well, at the very least Marsh thinks Wax aught to know it is a possibility. It was mentioned before, but isn't it likely that they made a Hemalurgic spike from poor Idashwy? Well,playing off that, it was mentioned that she was seeing her dead brother in visions. Now, it was also mentioned that it may have been Kelsier (meaning she was spiked), but I have a different thought. Emotional Allomancy can control Hemalurgic constructs. If the Set knows of Hemalurgy and this weakness, there is a lot of potential for messing with someones mind. There might not be enough Hemalurgic charge to force anything, but a little psychological twisting could be just as effective and isn't stopped by removing the spike. Edited September 22, 2015 by WindrunnerRadiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Portz Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 That's a very... Pratchett thing to say. He likes to throw this idea every other book. Am I the only one who sees Pratchett everywhere in this chapter? An exchange like this is very common during the City Watch subseries, usually between Vimes and Carrot. Agreed :-) But where Carrot ist lawful good and Vimes ist neutral good I would say Wayne ist chaotic good and Wax is ... hmmm ... lawful neutral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Calling it "mythological" is a bit extreme though, for something all the terris probably knew the cause for, since I would think that non-castrated terris men kind of have to exist for the race to still persist in a breeding program so long. Rashek didn't just kill everyone despite the danger, so he probably wanted his people to continue on, and kerping them pure would be even more important as everybody else in the empire risks possessing allomantic genes. They can castrate them afterwards, sure, but I do believe long bone growth generally only happens when the procedure is performed before puberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Agreed :-) But where Carrot ist lawful good and Vimes ist neutral good I would say Wayne ist chaotic good and Wax is ... hmmm ... lawful neutral? I'd put Wax as probably Lawful Good myself. He's definitely on the Good end of the alignment scale. Wayne is mostly Chaotic Good, with the occasional lapse into Chaotic Neutral, because pickles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physicskid Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 hasn't anyone thought of the possibility that the spirit of the dead brother is a kandra doing an impersonation of the body? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witborn Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 hasn't anyone thought of the possibility that the spirit of the dead brother is a kandra doing an impersonation of the body? That was the first thing I thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 We also had a newspaper clipping, I believe, from The Alloy of Law mentioning the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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