Mestiv Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I live in Poland, that's in Europe, so generally, I'm very out of sync with other sharders. Most of the time I browse 17th Shard from work, that is from 10 to 18 CET. That translates to 4 AM to 12 AM New York time and even further into the night for the western states. Being active during the "forum night" I frequently encounter spambots frolicking freely on our boards. I've read some topics and I know that there is not much that can be done by Admins to prevent those bots from posting and we're doomed to just react when they appear. Unfortunately, as far as I know, most of the forum staff (if not all) lives in North America. No one can expect you guys to be vigilant 24h every day, you all need to sleep, thus leaving the forum "unguarded" from the spambots. At least, I don't see any moderators or administrators on the active users list until it's 1 PM in Poland. So here is my humble request: Please, find some trustworthy sharders from Europe/Asia/Africa and give them Moderator privileges. That way, they would be able to stand on watch of the forum, when the American team has good dreams, abut world without Baba Ji 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Anamaximder Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Upvote for you sir, that is a good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 If there was such a candidate that caught our eye--independent from timezone--sure. Timezone is a benefit but other things are essential too. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haelbarde Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 How do usually pick your staff? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ookla the Absent Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Or, we could just fund one of the regular mods with caffene so they can stay up all night, for years at a time, gazing at an empty screen... Or hire a wakefulness compounder. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe ST Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Or, we could just fund one of the regular mods with caffene so they can stay up all night, for years at a time, gazing at an empty screen... Or hire a wakefulness compounder. We have a big pile of spikes, maybe we can employ them on some unsuspecting members in the correct timezones to make them spam-swatting drones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haelbarde Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 We have a big pile of spikes, maybe we can employ them on some unsuspecting members in the correct timezones to make them spam-swatting drones Surely a stockpile of Breath would be more useful - making a Lifeless and commanding it to destroy spam all day/night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 This seems as good a time to ask as any... What exactly is the difference between an administrator, a global moderator, and a moderator? As in, what can administrators do that moderators can't? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claincy Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 This seems as good a time to ask as any... What exactly is the difference between an administrator, a global moderator, and a moderator? As in, what can administrators do that moderators can't? Non-global moderators only have moderator power in specific parts of the forum, such as the theory subforums or Sanderson Elimination, global mods have those powers everywhere. I'm not certain exactly what powers 17s mods have as it can vary between forums but generally they have access to the moderation queue and can: edit/hide posts, move/merge/hide/lock/sticky threads and give out warnings and suspensions. Administrators also have control over the forum itself and can create/remove/change subforums and can change a lot of details about how the site works including restrictions on users, user-groups, profiles, posts, signatures, polls, mods. Basically they can do just about anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mestiv Posted September 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 That's 6 pages before I can reach any real topics. And yes, I did count them or rather I had my computer count them, he is much more reliable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I understand it's annoying, guys... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Oh, I should probably answer the questions raised in this thread. How do usually pick your staff? Jokes of Hemalurgy aside, we look for people as we trawl through the forums. There's a thread in our staff forum where staff discuss potential people, and we discuss it at length. There's a lot we look for in a mod, and though the spam is annoying, we don't come at it in an angle of "hey we need this time slot filled." We look for other qualities, like competence and the person fits in with the staff (namely, that their vision mostly aligns with our own). Also, even considering a mod in the time slot, bashing bots isn't a full time job. Killing bots is very simple; merely a button click away to destroy them... Someone just needs to hit the button. Point is, we would promote based on merit, not time slot, as the spam is not a sufficient reason in and of itself to promote. Surely a stockpile of Breath would be more useful - making a Lifeless and commanding it to destroy spam all day/night. Yes, but then you don't get to see the life drain out of their eyes as their love magic fails them. It's just not the same. Non-global moderators only have moderator power in specific parts of the forum, such as the theory subforums or Sanderson Elimination, global mods have those powers everywhere. I'm not certain exactly what powers 17s mods have as it can vary between forums but generally they have access to the moderation queue and can: edit/hide posts, move/merge/hide/lock/sticky threads and give out warnings and suspensions. Administrators also have control over the forum itself and can create/remove/change subforums and can change a lot of details about how the site works including restrictions on users, user-groups, profiles, posts, signatures, polls, mods. Basically they can do just about anything Moderators have two roles: they are eyes and ears of the staff, and then they are functionaries that have the general abilities you list. Though, we don't have them do disciplining anymore. Global moderators are expanded moderators, and have the complete forum-side toolset to do things. We also let them speak on behalf of the staff for matters of disciplining or other things. Basically, same as moderator, but with more trust. Administrators can do everything. There's Josh, Mi'ch, and I who get total access to everything on the serverside and setup stuff. Other admins are now actually a lower tier (which we really need to make a new group for), where each of those administrators have their own section they are "in charge" of. For example, Will with graphics, Joe with the Wiki, and now Weiry with News/Database stuff. These admins have the same forum abilities and do get server access. Most don't use it extensively as they are not on the technology side of things. Administrators also obviously get to deal with disciplinary matters. All staff get a voice about decisions, but the administrators are the trusted high council who really can shape the direction we go. Ultimate decisions come from Josh, Mi'ch, and I, and of those three, Josh is in charge. The three of us talk all the time to make fast decisions. I remember when we banned someone for being a total jerkwad literally within thirty minutes of him being a jerkwad. Who said committee decisions are not efficient? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eerongal Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I would like to report the previous poster to the high council for an immediate ban on the grounds of double posting, a clear rules violation. :3 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I would like to report the previous poster to the high council for an immediate ban on the grounds of double posting, a clear rules violation. :3 I do it on occasion, when needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haelbarde Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I would like to report the previous poster to the high council for an immediate ban on the grounds of double posting, a clear rules violation. :3Did you not notice him change the rules briefly so he could? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Had a suggestion for a new moderator. Never mind. Edited September 2, 2015 by TheYoungBard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't think the admins take suggestions for something like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sorry. Never mind. Though I could have sworn that Chaos said earlier in the thread that if anyone had a good suggestion they should mention it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Oh, I should probably answer the questions raised in this thread. Ah, but when are you going to answer the Reputation Reform thread's questions. It's been so long....So is this why some mods are green now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ah, but when are you going to answer the Reputation Reform thread's questions. It's been so long.... So is this why some mods are green now? Oh yeah. I do need to do that. I've been really busy, and admittedly, rehashing things I've already said is kind of not a task I am excited to do. *Administrators. Simply to make the distinction with Josh, Mi'ch, and I, and the other more focused administrators more clear. See my post above for the explanation. Bard, you might want to PM suggestions instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Chaos, just my opinion here, but when looking at the list of users at the bottom of the homepage, the Admin and the Team Sanderson colors are very similar and hard to tell apart. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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