Elsecaller3414 Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 I noticed in the WoK, in the scene where the Chasmfiend gets up on the wrong plateau, that Sadeas had a longbow that were nicknamed "shardbows." Definitely not actual Shard-anything, but only a Shardbearer could wield it. So, hypothetically, if an archer became a Surgebinder and spoke the Oaths, couldn't there be actual Shardbows? The Shardblades change forms to fit the needs of the bearer, but I'm not entirely sure. Feel free to post your thoughts below. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 I noticed in the WoK, in the scene where the Chasmfiend gets up on the wrong plateau, that Sadeas had a longbow that were nicknamed "shardbows." Definitely not actual Shard-anything, but only a Shardbearer could wield it. So, hypothetically, if an archer became a Surgebinder and spoke the Oaths, couldn't there be actual Shardbows? The Shardblades change forms to fit the needs of the bearer, but I'm not entirely sure. Feel free to post your thoughts below. Well they can change shape certainly but a bow needs a drawstring which is of a different material, potentially they could do something similar by just changing shape which means they might not even need to be drawn at all but then it's still not necessarily better than any normal bow, let alone a Shadbow like Sadeas used. A ShardArrow might be an improvement but they'd need to be pretty broad to manage to sever any limbs or anything, I think they'd mostly be useful in attacking other Shardbearers from range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Since blades pass right through things, using it for something like an arrow would be impractical as well, due to low cutting area. Using it as a bow, on the other hand, defeats the whole point of a shardblade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Since blades pass right through things, using it for something like an arrow would be impractical as well, due to low cutting area. Using it as a bow, on the other hand, defeats the whole point of a shardblade. Useful for shattering someone else's Plate at the least but yeah largely I agree. I wouldn't mind seeing a ShardBola though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6000j Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 yeah, but it would still look AWESOME. also, maybe being a shard would give it better accuracy or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VindicationKnight Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Have we ever seen a living Shardblade become two things at once? Because is not then you'd end up with a Shardbow...and only normal arrows to shoot with it. A ShardArrow would be better but even then you could only fire one at a time disarming yourself till it hit and you'd have to carry a bow around with you which negates the key Shardblade advantage of not needing to carry weapons personally. It would honestly be easier to just use Surgebinding in most situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxal Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 I wonder... could a Shardbow be strong enough to break through a Plate? Say you shoot at a full Shardbearer with it, does it injure the man inside? Strangely, I had wonder about this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oudeis Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Sharderang. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 ShardWireCreate incredibly thin strand of ShardWire. String up at approximately chest-height at the edge of a plateau.Wait for a Chasmfiend to pupate.Enjoy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6000j Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 (i feel like this thread is getting a bit off topic) Shardlasers: Shine a bright light through shards to use the as laser guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) How about a shard crossbow? Maybe one with an automated magazine-fed loading mechanism? I'm sure a radiant could do that. It's already been done before, after all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_crossbow Edited July 6, 2015 by Patrick Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VindicationKnight Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 How about a shard crossbow? Maybe one with an automated magazine-fed loading mechanism? I'm sure a radiant could do that. It's already been done before, after all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_crossbow But what are you shooting from it? Your spren is busy being the crossbow so...normal bolts? It's not a huge gain in combat terms tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oudeis Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Also, as someone has already pointed out, a crossbow has multiple parts. I don't think Spren can be made into machines, just single solid objects. And yes, I know most actual spears are a head bound to a shaft. I suspect Syl just turned into a single long stick of metal sharp at one end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze1616 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) In a WoB that's not been added to the hivemind Theoryland, Brandon states that SprenBows are impossible, as they cannot form objects with multiple parts, or at least multiple parts that separate. Plus we know there is a travel range that Spren seem to need to adhere to, though I don't recall it ever being explicitly stated. Perhaps they could form the actual bow, but would only shoot real arrows, not SprenArrows. Edit: The WoB is burried among the many signings Brandon did earlier this year. Not to be selfish, but I'm not hunting for it. Sorry. Edited July 6, 2015 by Blaze1616 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaellok Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 In a WoB that's not been added to the hivemind Theoryland, Brandon states that SprenBows are impossible, as they cannot form objects with multiple parts, or at least multiple parts that separate. Plus we know there is a travel range that Spren seem to need to adhere to, though I don't recall it ever being explicitly stated. Perhaps they could form the actual bow, but would only shoot real arrows, not SprenArrows. Edit: The WoB is burried among the many signings Brandon did earlier this year. Not to be selfish, but I'm not hunting for it. Sorry. I spent 2 minutes looking for it, because I remember reading it myself. But a lot of that time also got distracted with tumblr, so, probably I did a search. Maybe two. I think it was two. Anyway, I think I was doing something. I feel like I was storing copper. Or maybe zinc. Oh well. Did you see this picture of a cat? It was captioned, "It's not that he's evil. He lacks empathy and he goes into a disassociative state and commits atrocities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 A search for any use of the term 'bow' in Theoryland landed no pertinent results, nor did 'shardbow' or 'sprenbow' so whatever quote you two are thinking of I don't think it's been added to theoryland yet. Could it be this topic that you saw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 But what are you shooting from it? Your spren is busy being the crossbow so...normal bolts? It's not a huge gain in combat terms tbh. Yeah, you would be shooting normal (albeit heavily reinforced) bolts. I'd imagine that a sprenbow could shoot arrows with more speed, stopping power, range, and accuracy than a normal bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprint Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Adolin can throw his shard blade and command it to stay in place or call it back if it dissolves into mist. Wouldn't a 'Shardarrow' / 'Shardbolt' work in the same way, fire it from a conventional bow / crossbow and call it back after it punctures your target? This would be instantaneous for a knight radiant. No need for a quiver - think Hank the ranger from Dungeons and Dragons... Edited July 8, 2015 by sprint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 It will pass through people, severing what parts of the spiritweb it intersects. Arrows have pretty low surface area, so it wouldn't really damage much, and as a shardblade it can't even cut arteries or have any stopping power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VindicationKnight Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 It will pass through people, severing what parts of the spiritweb it intersects. Arrows have pretty low surface area, so it wouldn't really damage much, and as a shardblade it can't even cut arteries or have any stopping power. Might still be useful as a long range weapon against Shardplate. Plus a headshot or spine hit would still kill. I agree that it's tactical uses are fairly limited though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oudeis Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 People... Sharderang... solves all of these problems... think about it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VindicationKnight Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) People... Sharderang... solves all of these problems... think about it. It's so simple...yet...so elegant. *tears up* It's beautiful. Edited July 9, 2015 by VindicationKnight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 People... Sharderang... solves all of these problems... think about it. Maybe but it's not really sharp, I'm not sure what kind of effect using a blunt edge would have on a Sprenweapon. I stand by my suggestion of a ShardBola instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oudeis Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Some boomerangs have sharp edges, and if they don't, just have your spren take the form of an edged boomerang. Or a Shard chakram. Sharkram? ...Seen here, displayed on the Sorting Hat... Edited July 9, 2015 by Oudeis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Ravens Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Shardwhip ... or shardsling ... wait, wait, shard nun-chucks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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