Bacon Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 in a battle of racism? They both go back and forth, saying racist stuff (jokes, anecdotes, assertions, etc) about light-eyed noblemen, getting slightly more racist as they go. The first one who can't (or refuses to) come up with a more racist remark than the last one told by the other person, loses. Moreover, what is the anti-light eye or anti-noblemen remark that can't be topped by the other person? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Arum Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 This isn't racism. It's a dislike of the overlords in the system because they are repressive to the common folk and have a belief in an outdated imperialist dogmatic system...if only Dennis the Constitutional Peasant were on their side. Because really, they didn't vote for the king! Also, it's not very PC to have a racism joke-off. I don't like your request. It'd be better if you just asked in general who would win a battle based on their skills from their investiture. If that were the case I'd say Kelsier would win because he has, to date in the books, a lot more experience with Allomancy relative to Kaladin's experience as a Windrunner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I think, after complaining for a while about their respective nobles, they would become good buddies and get a drink together. and compare notes on how to overthrow the system. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Mistborn: Final Empire and WOR spoilers Both have become more open towards the upper class. Kelsier saved Elend from the Steel Inquisitor, and Kaladin is more-or-less OK with light-eyes now that Dalinar has proved they are not all horrible people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 As well as the fact that Kaladin is one, and Kelsier half noble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) This isn't racism. It's a dislike of the overlords in the system because they are repressive to the common folk and have a belief in an outdated imperialist dogmatic system...if only Dennis the Constitutional Peasant were on their side. Because really, they didn't vote for the king! Also, it's not very PC to have a racism joke-off. I don't like your request. It'd be better if you just asked in general who would win a battle based on their skills from their investiture. If that were the case I'd say Kelsier would win because he has, to date in the books, a lot more experience with Allomancy relative to Kaladin's experience as a Windrunner. Well it is still kind of racism, they're not just objecting to the system that's a fundamental part of both characters, Kelsier hates the Final Empire but even outside of that he bears a grudging resentment of all Nobles based simply upon their parentage rather than their own personal involvement in oppressing the Skaa. Kaladin is highly distrustful and spiteful to any and all Lighteyes, going out of his way to disbelieve any of them capable of genuinely good acts. I'm somewhat in agreement on the second point but given that they're both fictional races it does take some sting off, there's no risk of actually offending anyone, but I do still believe it sets a poor precedent, so I'll not add any. Edited November 22, 2014 by Voidus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipbruley Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Kaladin hands down was more racist. Many members of Kelsier's team were half noble. Kaladin hated and distrusted all Lighteyes and only associated himself with darkeyes. Kaladin judges people on their appearance, where Kelsier judges people on their social status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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