Ashiok Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) So this depends on two things. 1. Do genitic clones have the same or similar sDNA? 2. If you clone yourself, and implant that clone with your memories, will it's mind be the same as yours? If so, it would be possible to spike oneself without creating a personality disorder in a semi moral way, AKA morally right infinite power (assuming feruchemy and Mistborn in background) Thoughts? Practical suggestions? Impractical suggestions? Edited July 20, 2014 by Ashiok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Joe in the Bush Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 If so, it would be possible to spike oneself without creating a personality disorder in a semi moral way, Without creating a Personality Disorder? You already have one if you're willing to kill yourself multiple times, then implant your sDNA inside yourself. And in what way is this Moral? Also, Your sDNA is affected by how you live your life. Identical Twins have different sDNA. And I think Clones do as well. Though I'm getting that from the only non-cosmere story to include a clone. Firstborn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 sDNA for twins is not the same, so I don't think your clones would necessarily share your sDNA. They still might be Mistings though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashiok Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Good points. I don't actually know what I was thinking when I posted that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) also, i don't understand where the gain would be. oh, you could make an army of clones to use for spikes, but that's nowhere near moral, so i assume you had some other kind of idea. but what? ah, maybe you want to spike yourself for your personality, the implant that personality on a younger clone as a way to achieve sort-of immortality? i'm sure it was discussed before, but ddon't remember what the conclusion was. pretty sure something would go wrong, anyway. and it certainly has nothing to do with morality. in any case, you can't make copies of yourself: there's only one spike with your personality going around. Edited July 20, 2014 by king of nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfAquamarineBodies Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 What would happen to your personality if the Spike was left out too long? I'd definitely want to research that before I Spiked myself into another person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsworn Panda Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Huh. Raises the possibility of spiking yourself with your own powers to increase whatever power you have. (A Super Coinshot!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashiok Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Exactly. Somebody gets it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Could work with the metallic arts, they're more genetic than anything else, and if nothing else the clones would still have a chance of getting some abilities, actually better since they could be different mistings or ferrings and the you you get Mistborns again without killing anyone other than yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 If you're interested in hemalurgy but concerned about morality, you're not doing it right. If spiking clones of yourself did work, you could have a clone spike another clone(or however many you want) and then spike him, possibly amplifying the power even more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Another thing, if I have 20 MILLION clones and even 5% of them are mistings or ferrings, why bother spiking? You have a nigh unstoppable army and, with the looks I've got, could easily reintroduce allomancy and feruchemy into the gene pool. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashiok Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 But that's boring! At least double spike yourself with all of the allomatic and feruchemial powers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Another thing, if I have 20 MILLION clones and even 5% of them are mistings or ferrings, why bother spiking? You have a nigh unstoppable army and, with the looks I've got, could easily reintroduce allomancy and feruchemy into the gene pool. Yeah but then you'd never get anything done, you'd all just sit around telling eachother how good you look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Yeah but then you'd never get anything done, you'd all just sit around telling eachother how good you look That has been a problem in the past. That and the inevitable sandwich shortage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 But that's boring! At least double spike yourself with all of the allomatic and feruchemial powers... That's what I was saying. You could double spike a quintuple spiked clone for each ability. And hemalurgy is never boring if you do it correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I don't think that if you spike someone with a spike that you'd steal the spike as well, I think the piece of spiritweb would remain attached to the first spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Well that's no fun... Maybe I just need a bigger spike... hmm... (Grabs a broadsword) I'll be back in a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well that's no fun... Maybe I just need a bigger spike... hmm... (Grabs a broadsword) I'll be back in a few. Have you considered joining the glorious brotherhood of 'people who I don't want to run into in a dark alley'? and we promise that you'll still be partially alive at the end of the recruiting process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Have you considered joining the glorious brotherhood of 'people who I don't want to run into in a dark alley'? and we promise that you'll still be partially alive at the end of the recruiting process Sounds fun! I've already a part of the "People the public wants to lock-up forever" group, but I don't think they'll conflict. And I'm not sure I'm alive anyway, so don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Also in the dark Alley we have cookies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Also in the dark Alley we have cookies Sold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyman Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Sold. Noooooooooooooo! The cake cookies are a lie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Well happyman, we of the dark alley respect people's right to disagree ,if you'd like to lodge a formal complaint come see us in the Dark Alley I'm sure we'll be able to stab you with spikes until Ruins influence makes you recant sort out any issues you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Noooooooooooooo! The cake cookies are a lie! Actually the cookies are real, they just never let you have them. And they're gluten free... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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