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  1. Ok, so in Oathbringer, as we know, Moash is able to permanently kill a Herald using a Rasyium dagger with a gem in the pommel. Fair enough, very interesting. However, this seems to completely destroy the entire Desolation/Return to Braize cycle that has been going on. Ok, so Shards basically have access to infinite information. From this WoB I basically imagine it very much like what we do today with a cellphone. Don't know a thing, Shard Google (Shardle?) it, and boom, knowledge, right? They DO have to know what they don't know to go searching for that knowledge, but that's a minor point. Odium, of ALL of the Shards, should be intimately aware of how Raysium works. It's literally part of him. It is not a stretch at all to assume he should have known all along that what happened to Jezrien was possible, basically from the get go. At the very least he should have known within a couple Desolations, right? So, why, in Ado's name, did it take, what? Anywhere between a couple hundred, to potentially several thousand years (I think the original timeline for the Desolations is a little murky, and we can't count the 4500 years between Aharetiam(sp?) since there was no Fused action going on) for this idea to come to fruition? It's beyond reason to assume that Odium, and therefore the Fused, have no way to get their hands on Raysium on Braize. If it was basically that simple to completely destroy them, thus making it impossible for them to return, even if they had to kill them when they were on Roshar, it shouldn't have taken 99 Desolations, a False Desolation, and finally a True Desolation, for this to happen. My thoughts on this are basically that, even if it took a few Desolations for them to pull it off, permanently killing all 10 Heralds this way, during the Desolations, would mean that there would be no Heralds on Braize to lock the Fused there, thus removing the block on the rebirth cycle of the Fused, and that's game over for Roshar. "Super Easy, Barely an Inconvenience"™ This feels very much like a "So the movie can happen"™ kind of moment. ETA: I'm still getting a feel for where and what spoilers are allowed where, if there are any issues, please let me know
  2. (Mild Oathbringer spoilers) The Blue Envelope with the Bronze Seal Rated Teen, 6000 words Summary: In a world in which soulmates exist, Sigzil rejects his to embark on an entirely different kind of adventure. Chapter 1 For being such an expansive auditorium crammed with so many people, it was unnerving to hear such a large silence. Sigzil was half-certain that everyone could hear the thumping of his heart. Certainly he could hear that one of the adjudicators standing against a far wall was chewing something. Focus. He stared at the top sheet of the pages in front of him, hands in his lap, willing the test to start. Would he even be able to concentrate while he was this nervous? He could hear clothing rustling as his fellow applicants adjusted their robes and wraps; the nervous tapping of pens, quickly self-chastened back to stillness; then at last, one set of footsteps, ringing clearly through the hall like bells. “You may begin.” Finally! Sigzil flipped over the first page eagerly, then skimmed through the length of the test, evaluating the difficulty of the questions to ease his mind a little. This would be a good place to start: actuarial questions. Get through those, and then he could start on the history of— The sound of whispering distracted him, and he glanced at the doorway to find a tall, large woman in high ranked scion’s robes in a huddle with two of the guards. They looked up, directly at him. Oh, Yaezir guide me, he thought miserably, and snapped back to the pages in front of him. If I get kicked out just for looking up, my parents will kill me. More footsteps, this time the heavy thud of boots. They sounded like they were getting closer, but Sigzil didn’t dare look up. He frowned, trying to concentrate. Calculate the merchant’s profit, and then subtract the taxes for the Prime, given Hazep’s Rule of Sixths. Consult the table of risks— The footsteps got louder, then louder. He covered one ear as he scribbled. Average distance of goods, value of goods…hold on. Are they delivered by ship or over land? Oh Pali, of course it’s both— Two looming shadows darkened the desk. A gauntleted arm knocked the pen from Sigzil’s hand, and it landed with a crack against the bronze floor. Sigzil watched numbly as his lucky pen shattered into a thousand pieces under the rows of desks. “Oops, I do apologize,” a gruff voice said, but Sigzil felt like the words were travelling to him underwater. Then two large hands grabbed him under the armpits and yanked him to standing. He hardly heard what came next. “I’m afraid you’ll have to come with us, Citizen Cheater.” Keep reading
  3. Truth Will Be by BlindRadiant (shared with permission) Rated General, 10K words What if the reasons why Glys needed to become enlightened, and how Szeth became Truthless, were the same? Keep reading
  4. *I have only read up to Dawnshard so I have not read RoW yet* but I came up with a pretty interesting thought. So we know that after Stormlight 5, there is going to be a 10-15 year world period until the next book. We also know Taravangian is getting up there in his age, and we even know that he feels that he feels he won't be around much longer in Oathbringer. So putting these two pieces of info together, it is pretty obvious that Taravangian most likely won't be around after Stormlight 5 and into 6 and there is no way that we just get a short explanation telling that Taravangian died during the 15 year stretch in book 6. I think that we Taravangian will probably end up having a very important death in book 5 (unless it already happened in Rhythm of War and I just have yet to read it yet). Taravangian could be betrayed by Odium or even Dalinar if the Diagram goes wrong and stuff goes down. No matter how Taravangian dies, that event will carry major consequences. Will his deal with Odium be repealed? Will the people of the Diagram continue to follow its instructions? There is so much that could happen. Please contribute any thoughts you have, I would really appreciate a good discussion about this unless Rhythm of War explains it all.
  5. I was browsing at coppermind and neither the Order of Lightweavers page, nor the page for illumination mention anything of the form of lightweaving (and/or soulcasting) that gave the illusions wieght. Given how it was such a big part of the Battle of Thaylen Field, I believe it should be mentioned.
  6. So obviously the old Radiants broke their oaths and killed their spren, but where did they go? Like, do we know if they went to a specific location or did they just fall off the face of the earth? (ie we don't know yet)
  7. There has a been a lot of speculation that with the early focus on Kaladin's survivor's guilt pain, Brandon Sanderson is setting up a potential story arc where he finds solace from his pain by "giving it" to Odium (possibly even becoming his champion). I simply don't understand how that would work from a psychological point of view. Of the two characters who Odium directly challenged, Dalinar retained his pain, while Moash let Odium have his. It seems to me that the opportunity to allow Odium to have one's pain is a means of ridding one's self of having to acknowledge and take ownership of one's feelings and actions. Instead they can disassociate themselves from their actions, blaming it on Odium or an influence from one of his unmade instead. (Originally I believed Hoid's tale of the Wandersail to be an analogy of Szeth, but I believe it also refers to people who put their faith in Odium. Taking responsibility for one's actions is a motif of the Stormlight Archive). Moash turned to Odium as a way of coping with the guilt of his conscience. He knew/knows what he's doing isn't honorable. By turning to Odium he can live without the guilt associated with his vengeful, murderous actions. Dalinar's story arc in Oathbringer concludes with him fully acknowledging his role in the massacres he performed. By holding onto his pain and rejecting Odium, he completely accepts responsibility for what he's done- along with the guilt and pain he initially had gone to great lengths to avoid. Had he accepted Odium's offer as Moash does, he would have been excusing his role in the monstrous actions he himself had taken. He would have fled responsibility. And remained the Blackthorn. And now to Kaladin; he is not similar to Dalinar or Moash. In contrast to their evil passion filled murders, there is honor in Kaladin's pain. He doesn't suffer because he couldn't stop himself from doing evil (like Moash and Dalinar). He feels pain because he couldn't do more good. In fact, I would venture to say that if anything, he should give away his pain. Much like someone who holds onto the cherished memories of a lost loved one to the point they can't move on, sometimes to honor the dead, you have to let go so you can honor them by living. Unlike Moash and Dalinar who need to face their actions and accept the pain of guilt and corruption instead of compartmentalizing it, Kaladin needs to let go and realize there is no proper reason for him to feel guilty.He can remember those who died under his care, without holding onto the pain and guilt that comes along with it. With this distinction, I believe Odium tempting Kaladin with his modus operandi of helping people disassociate themselves from their pain is simply a non-starter. With Moash and Dalinar the result would be a ruthless killer, with Kaladin it would be a functioning Radiant. Just my thoughts. If anyone has posted similar thoughts please direct me.
  8. In the preview chapters of ROW its revealed that Shallan has developed a level of comfort and even comradery amongst Veil, Radiant, and herself. We also find out that Venli has been able to maintain her own personality due to her Radiant Spren Bond despite being an elevated Parshendi. It got me wondering, what if a radiant allowed a fused or unmade to inhabit his or her body? And even more interesting- what would happen if Shallan somehow let a Fused, Yelig-nar, or another unmade inhabit her body? Would her multiple personalities be too much for a potential host to handle? Could one personality be taken over by the invading host while others remained intact? (Poor Adolin) It then occurred to me that Brandon has already used this idea of an antagonist trying to occupy one's mind being prevented due to the protagonist being of multiple minds. In his YA novel Starsight, Morriumur is able to survive against a delver due to his being of two minds. Is Brandon setting Shallan up to have similar success against an antagonist? Could Morriumer's success actually be a spoiler for Shallan's future success against Odium's forces?
  9. So, I was going through the Mistborn series again, and something about the feruchemists' healing powers caught my attention. Now, healing by stormlight in (say it with me) the Stormlight Archives is pretty well explained. Using stormlight, a radiant can restore a physical object to its cognitive perception. That is, a person or thing that has been recently wounded or broken can be healed or fixed with the power of stormlight. We see this many times: Szeth healing minor wounds, Kaladin healing minor wounds, Shallan healing a crossbow bolt to the face, Dalinar healing a sword through the chest, Dalinar fusing a broken stone back together, Shallan using stormlight to recover from drunkenness, Shallan healing minor wounds, Lopen regrowing his arm, Lift healing Gawx's slit throat, and Renaren healing a lot of people including himself when he gets crushed by a thunderclast. We also see injuries that can't be healed, like Rysn's legs. I can't remember who talks about it, probably Jasnah or Wyndle, but whoever it was said that this has to do with perception in the cognitive realm. If an injury is recent, stormlight will heal it because the person doesn't see themselves as injured. That's why Rysn's legs couldn't heal. She thought of herself as a cripple, so no amount of stormlight would heal her. On the other hand, (you'll see why that's funny in a second) Lopen could grow back his arm because despite his jokes, he thought of himself as a whole person with two arms, which is surprising since he'd been missing it for so long. (on a sidenote, does this mean that Shallan was only able to dispel her drunkenness because she doesn't see herself as a drunk? What implications does this have for Teft's firemoss addiction?) So, that brings us to feruchemy. A bloodmaker ferring (or a full feruchemist) can store health in a goldmind, drawing upon it later to heal wounds and other ailments including disease, headaches, etc. The question is, does this healing of the body work just the same as stormlight healing on Roshar, by restoring the body to the way it is perceived in the cognitive realm? Or is it a different kind of healing that just enhances the body's natural auto-repair functions? Perhaps neither. On a related note, what if someone with both of these powers tried to use them at the same time, like some meta-compounding? Imagine storing health while consuming stormlight to take up the slack. Now that I think about it, stormlight could be used to fill a couple different metalminds. For example, at one point Shallan feels guilty about using valuable stormlight to keep herself warm in Urithiru, and Sazed, while standing in the snow preparing to defend Luthadel, taps a brassmind for the same purpose. Imagine using the surge of graviation (to fly like Kaladin does) while filling an ironmind. Using stormlight and filling a pewtermind at the same time. I also want to see someone fill a steelmind but inside one of those bendalloy bubbles Wayne can make. And on a less related note, what would it mean to compound copper? We're told that compounding a metal "increases the power tenfold" but how do you increase a memory? Anyway, that's all I have for now. I'm not necessarily looking for answers, I'm just giving you all something to think about and discuss. Feruchemy do be fascinating.
  10. If people are defending that Adolin's murder of Sadeas is justiable, than Dalinar by proxy should be killed like twenty times over for burning children. I don't care who does it -- Dalinar, compare to what Sadeas has ever done, is an irredeemable monster. If you think otherwise, than you also agree Adolin (that cremling) deserves to face the consequences for first degree murder and for trying to cover it up.
  11. So I was rereading WOK in preparation for November and I came across an interesting line from Mr. T “Sometimes I wonder if the Lifebrother himself sent you to me.” Do we know anything about the Lifebrother? Because that sounds an awful lot like a strong contender for the name of “The Sibling”. It fits the naming scheme. Stormfather, Nightwatcher, and Lifebrother. They seem to go well together. Plus you know “brother” and “Sibling”. It just seems perfect to me.
  12. So we learn from the Glyphs shown in one of the Oathbringer art pages that Kalad is the Alethi glyph for Eternal, we also learn that the suffix Lin or Rin in a name means "Born Onto" in an Alethi name from the Dalinar chapters where he names Adolin and where he thinks about Renarin's name. Adoda means light and Lin means born onto so Adolin means Born onto Light. Renarin means he who is born onto himself because Evi didn't fully understand the Alethi naming conventions. So does Kaladin's name mean Born onto Eternity? Kalad meaning Eternal and the 'In suffix meaning "Born onto". (Ignoring for a second any other people with Kalad in their names...)
  13. So while this could be nothing, I was looking through some discussions about stormlight 4 and I started to connect some dots. While it is not confirmed, a lot of the fandom- and myself- believe Hesina, Kaladin's mother, to be originally from Kharbranth. If this is true, we known from the end of Oathbringer that all those who were born in Kharbranth and their spouses will be spared from Odium. We also know that Odium is bound by his word and so he must follow this deal he struck with Taravangian. While I've seen quite a few people saying this deal will end up being bad for Taravangian and that Odium ultimately got the better deal, I think this deal is what will bring about Odium's downfall, not Taravangian's. Now I should say this having any sort of possibility weighs heavily on Hesina being born in Kharbranth, but under the assumption that she is then this means that Lirin is spared by association. And yet, even with this deal potentially protecting him, much of the fanbase believes Lirin will die in Stormlight 4. This is where I think Odium trips himself up. If Lirin were to die as a result of Odium- so be singers, listeners, or corrupted spren- the deal between Odium and Taravangian will immediately become void. And while we don't necessarily know what happens when a shard's word is broken, it is my personal headcanon that a big part of the process for Honor being shattered was that he in some way broke his word. While obviously this has a lot holes in it, I just wanted to point it out as I've been seeing a lot of people talking about the Kharbranth deal and whether or not Lirin will die in the next book.
  14. Um, OB spoilers. So, Cultivation removed Dalinar's memories in order to cultivate him, much like a gardner would remove branches or shoots from a tree that have fouled for some reason in order for growth to happen, maybe to be grafted in at a later date when they could help the tree instead of harm it. So Cultivation starts returning Dalinar's pruned memories, and Dalinar later in the book realizes that Odium intended to return the memories all at the same time, which probably would have overwhelmed him to the point of giving up his pain. So Cultivation had a really smart plot for foiling Odium by using Dalinar. Why the mysterious tenth pancake did the Diagram order Dalinar's execution, and when that failed, removal from power and humiliation? Why did cultivation not try to stop that? If she had the Foresight to cultivate Dalinar in order to be able to resist Odium, then why were her Diagrammists actively trying to subvert what she was working on?
  15. Oathbringer Spoilers Below! I was just thinking recently about how Adolin was able to murder Sadeas and get away with it without too much suspicion in Oathbringer and I found myself thinking: How would you get away with murder in Roshar? Specifically how would you get away Sadeas's murder in Roshar. Would you frame someone? Take Adolin's route and get involved with the investigation? Just curious to see what people have to say!
  16. If I understand the big ‘humans are voidbringers’ thing Odium created humans on Ashyn and Honor and Cultivation created the singers. But then during the subsequent Desolations (if we count the arrival of humans or maybe the moment they broke the agreement and left Shinovar as a first desolation) the Shards changed sides with Odium helping the singers and Honor and Cult aiding humans. Do we know why they decided to switch? If not, I’m curious to hear your theories. I think it’s odd for Honor to support humans since they supposedly broke the agreement and attacked the singers taking their land. That seems like an oath broken but obviously we don’t have a full story yet. On the other hand, Odium doesn’t seem to care much about anything except destroying other Shards so I don’t see why would he suddenly change his favored race unless it would help him with that or Honor changed first.
  17. I tried, but I couldn't find an article about this. At the end of OB, Moash goes behind the palace in Kholinar and kills an old drunk that we know to be Jezrien (If it's a different herald, I'm sorry) with a dagger that has a gemstone on the hilt. After stabbing the Herald through the heart, the gemstone begins glowing softly. When I first read this, my initial thoughts went to a WoB what stated that Hemalurgy in some form or another could be performed anywhere in the Cosmere. I believe that is what happened when Moash killed the Herald. Thoughts? Has this been confirmed?
  18. So I was browsing Arcanum when I came upon this little WoB: And immediately something stuck out to me (highlighted in blue) - Brandon says that he made it so that Shadesmar has air so that people wouldn't have to worry about bringing plants to get oxygen, or a Windrunner, or - wait. What? The way he says it, it sounds like (were it the case that Shadesmar had no air) a Windrunner would be helpful - if not absolutely crucial - in getting air into Shadesmar. This leads me to believe that, as they progress in the Oaths, Windrunners gain access to some sort of air/wind manipulation abilities; this seems to be supported by Kaladin's pressure bubble in Oathbringer. I'm curious to see how this could be applied by Kaladin, and other Windrunners, but I'm more curious to see if other orders have similar abilities not exactly related to their surges. Personally, assuming some (if not all) other orders have abilities we haven't seen yet, I like to think that the Skybreakers could summon lightning. It fits with their name (breaking....skies....), and would definitely be storming cool (yes, I will admit, I just want to see Szeth shoot lightning while dual-wielding Nightblood and his sprenblade). What do you think about this? Am I reading too much into this WoB? Do you think the orders could have abilities other than those strictly defined by their surges?
  19. Not really a topic but I wanted to bless y’all with some nice Stormlight memes
  20. Ok, so this really has no impact on the story whatsoever, but it’s been on my mind. In Oathbringer, Jasnah reveals that Roshar originally belonged to the listeners, and that humans eventually invaded. Someone (I think it was also Jasnah, though it might’ve been Odium) said that Shinovar was given to the humans as a place where they could live in a similar environment as their native one, where the humans plants could grow and they could thrive. Most obviously moved on from Shinovar, and settled elsewhere. However, if Shinovar was the equivalent of their Rosharan homeland, then why are the Shin short compared to everyone else? Seeing as the Shin would have no obvious catalyst for a significant change in stature (their environment was the same on Roshar as it was before Roshar), the other Rosharans would have had to have grown in order to adapt to their new environment, though the reason they would need to adapt why remains a mystery to me. A second theory is that before leaving their previous planet, the humans had different nationalities, and this carried over when they took over Roshar. This theory seems the most likely, and would explain why the people in the homeland are comparatively short, as they wouldn’t accurately represent the entire pre-Roshar population. Another possibility is that the different countries were founded by a few people, and the different genes carried through generations. This theory makes less sense, however, as the humans probably had to fight the listeners in order to take over Roshar, and that couldn’t be done by a few people, meaning that a few peoples’ similar genes couldn’t control the genes of the whole country.
  21. Reposting this from my introduction post **Warning: This post contains MASSIVE spoilers for Oathbringer. Proceed either with caution, or not at all.** Hi guys! This is my first post here, and I want to talk about Dalinar. Near the end of Oathbringer, Dalinar is able to recreate Honor’s perpendicularity by joining the 3 Realms. I was wondering what the extent of these powers are. Could Dalinar travel to the Spiritual Realm? What would happen if he did? Does this require Stormlight? At the end of Oathbringer, Kaladin said that Dalinar was able to renew gemstones for his trip, which indicates that Dalinar is able to combine the Realms at any time. Can Dalinar do this because he is a Bondsmith, or is it something else entirely? We know that Bondsmiths are somewhat special among Radiants, as there can only be three, and the order was founded by Ishar, who (I think) Ash said was the only Herald that didn’t lose his mind. Dalinar seemed able to do something similar when he operated the Oathgate, despite having no Shardblade. This power is surely the same as the one Dalinar used later on to unite the Realms, but this quote makes it sound less like a Bondsmith power, as opening the Oathgate seemed to hurt the Stormfather, or at least bother him deeply. This probably wouldn’t happen had this been typical Bondsmith behavior. This raises a question: if it’s not a Bondsmith ability, then where did this power come from?
  22. So when Dalinar unites the Realms, he refers to the Spiritual Realm not as a place, but all places at once. Since it seems that Bondsmiths are able to join the Realms and create portals between them, could one theoretically travel through a Bondsmith’s perpendicularity and use the Spiritual Realm for instantaneous travel? I don’t think this would work for going anywhere, as the rift only connects to one place in the Physical Realm, but one might be able to travel to a different perpendicularity, as that path to the Physical/Cognitive Realm already exists. If this is possible, however, that would make Bondsmiths extremely powerful. It actually makes me wonder how Radiants with the Transportation Surge travel, though I’m pretty sure this isn’t it.
  23. **Warning: This post contains MASSIVE spoilers for Oathbringer. Proceed either with caution, or not at all.** Hi guys! This is my first post here, and I want to talk about Dalinar. Near the end of Oathbringer, Dalinar is able to recreate Honor’s perpendicularity by joining the 3 Realms. I was wondering what the extent of these powers are. Could Dalinar travel to the Spiritual Realm? What would happen if he did? Does this require Stormlight? At the end of Oathbringer, Kaladin said that Dalinar was able to renew gemstones for his trip, which indicates that Dalinar is able to combine the Realms at any time. Can Dalinar do this because he is a Bondsmith, or is it something else entirely? We know that Bondsmiths are somewhat special among Radiants, as there can only be three, and the order was founded by Ishar, who (I think) Ash said was the only Herald that didn’t lose his mind. Dalinar seemed able to do something similar when he operated the Oathgate, despite having no Shardblade. This power is surely the same as the one Dalinar used later on to unite the Realms, but this quote makes it sound less like a Bondsmith power, as opening the Oathgate seemed to hurt the Stormfather, or at least bother him deeply. This probably wouldn’t happen had this been typical Bondsmith behavior. This raises a question: if it’s not a Bondsmith ability, then where did this power come from?
  24. Hey, I'm a new member. Willshaper Wallar. Name is from Madman Wallar from Bloodborne. I made an account because I've been dying to ask this question. So, we were told that there's going to be a book dedicated to each order of the Knights Radiant, right? Kaladin/Windrunners, Shallan/Lightweavers, Dalinar/Bondsmiths, Szeth/Skybreakers, etc. Well, we know that Ash, Patron of Lightweavers, will have a book focused on her viewpoints and whatnot. That just seems a little weird, since that means there will be two books focused on Lightweavers. What are your thoughts?
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