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  1. I have a theory as to why Szeth was given Nightblood instead of another shard or honorblade. It's been stated that Nightblood act as and basically is a shardblade. So I'll assume when he clashes with one it will be shardblade on shardblade. But what if nightblood can speak into the minds of live spren such as Syl and make her thoughts wild it corrupt basically rendering hey useless to Kaladin. Could this be a possibility why Szeth was given Nightblood at the end of WoR by Nale? That would certainly give him a huge edge over any other shard bearer
  2. Anybody know why Szeth refers to Nightblood as "Sword-Nimi?" My original theory was that it was some Shin word, but doesn't Szeth speak Alethi?
  3. Ok, my first post. MISTCLOAKS Since the first time I read about mistcloaks they seemed... unnecessary. The explanations to their existence are tenuous at best - 'It's colored and constructed to hide you in the mist,' Kelsier said. 'And it warns city guards and other Mistborn not to bother you.' He spun, letting the cloak flare dramatically. 'I think it suits me.' ” —Kelsier[1] First of all - we're talking about mists. they hide and obscure shape anyway. At night, in the mists, I don't think the color or exact shape of the garment will make much difference. Secondly, if the reason is to give warning - that this is a full mistborn and should not be trifled with - than we are talking about the exact opposite of camouflage. The explanations contradict one another. They sound like rationalizations of a tradition with obscure beginning. However... the design would be extremely useful to an awakener. Vasher is kinda like Hoid, thousands-of-years-old worldhopper, one the cosmere elite magic users. We know that he can use Stormlight instead of Breath to sustain himself and Nightblood... Could he also be an "ancient" allomancer? Maybe he started the mistborn fashion of wearing Awakener's cloaks. What do you think?
  4. I theorize that something happened to Nightblood after his forging that changed his very nature. One thing we have concrete evidence of is that Nightblood currently consumes the Breath of the person that wields it. Emphasis mine. The longer Nightblood is held the faster the breaths consumed. Yet, Vasher has the following thoughts later. If Nightblood consumed the Breath, how could a Lifeless wield it? Now to the Meat of my Theory. Nightblood originally only consumed the Breath of those slain by him. But what could have happened to change this? The only thing I can think of involves 2 assumptions. 1) Shashara was a returned. (I believe all 5 scholars were returned). 2) Vasher killed Shashara using Nightblood. If Shashara was returned it means 3 things. First, she had a Divine Breath. Second, That Breath had an expiration date and required other sacrificial breaths for her to continue living. Third, she had some Divine Purpose for Returning. If she was killed with Nightblood, that could mean 1) Nightblood consumed her Divine Breath. 2) Her purpose to Return was to feed her Divine Breath to Nightblood and change him, or his killing her prevented her purpose from being achieved, and prevented the Divine Breath from returning to Endowment, thus corrupting it. 3) Nightblood evolved into something new, since apparently lifeless could wield awakened swords originally, but how could they wield Nightblood when they have 1 breath.
  5. I realize the annotations have been a weak point in my cosmere knowledge, and have been reading through them and came to this. It's the from the spoilered section of chapter 47 annotations. https://brandonsanderson.com/annotation-warbreaker-chapter-forty-seven/ So Yesteel know the process to create Nightblood. If the Idrian coalition could do it, then it is most likely a process consisting solely of Awakening. Eliminating the need for any off world investiture. If Yesteel already knows, than it's also perfectly plausible to believe Nightblood is not alone. I really should have read these annotations sooner.
  6. We know from here that Nightblood is a sort of splinter (which makes his creation even more amazing/terrifying to me, cause apparently Vasher and Shashara managed to forge a self aware splinter from 1000 Breaths worth of investiture), and that he was made with at least partial knowledge of Shardblades. I also have reason to believe that Sazeth, who we know is bonded to Nightblood, is NOT bonded to a Highspren but does have the surgebinding abilities of a Skybreaker. (See minor Eddgedancer Spoilers). This leads me to wonder what else might grant surgebinding abilities, and of what sort? Would a person from Sel who (somehow) managed to get to Roshar have surgebinding if they held a seon or skaze (which are splinters of Dominion and Devotion respectively)? If so, what would determine the type of surges they have access too? Thoughts?
  7. Ok, before I get to my Outrageous Theory I'm going to talk about some things that got me there.. I'm going to point towards some WoB that I've read, sorry in advance as I find it difficult to cycle through all the WoB to find the exact quotes: WoB that suggested that there's more to the creation of Nightblood than a bucket load of breaths and a command WoB that suggests the five scholars were World Hoppers WoB that suggests Nightblood was modeled after a Shardblade Outrageous theory in the form of a humble question: I may be way ahead of myself here, so I'm going to ask some questions that may point us in the right direction or void said theory: In relation to the Cosmere timeline - where is SA compared to Warbreaker? keeping in mind that Nightblood was created at least 3 centuries ago (That was when Vasher ended the war he started wasn't it?) In relation to the Cosmere timeline - when was The Recreance? Is a Shardblade like Aluminum and immune to awakening.? if so, can enough breaths (investiture) overcome this? Is there possibly a Connection issue? (crossing over Shardic Magic) if so, can enough breaths (investiture) overcome this? Thoughts..? !~ HIF ~!
  8. Sorry but I just couldn't get the kid image out of my mind The actual prompt comes from Warbreaker chapter 5: So there Another reason to hype about the rest Stormlight books:
  9. Brandon’s explanation for “corrupted” Investiture – a “mixing of different Shards” – raises a question about Nightblood’s history. How could Nightblood acquire another Shard’s Investiture before he left Nalthis? Warbreaker occurs before WoK. Following is speculation built on “black smoke.” I think Nightblood isn’t some piece of “steel” shaped like a sword. I think Shashara took a “dead” spren Shardblade from Roshar when the Five Scholars visited. Honor and Cultivation are the other Investitures comprising Nightblood. Here’s the text description of Nightblood’s creation from Vasher’s point of view (Warbreaker, Kindle p. 569-70, emphasis added): Brandon further addresses this last bolded statement in his Warbreaker Annotations (emphasis added): Analysis Vasher suggests Shashara competed with Yesteel for scholarly preeminence. I think she borrowed one of Vasher’s “tricks” – she took a Shardblade home from Roshar to experiment on and told the other Scholars it was “steel.” The Scholars were among the earliest Worldhoppers. They may have heard stories of Shardblades, but didn’t know what Shardblades actually were: “Nightblood is an attempt by someone who didn’t know how Shardblades were made to create a Shardblade using a different magic system.” The other Scholars wouldn’t recognize Nightblood as a “god metal” made from a spren of Honor and/or Cultivation. They’d just accept that an unrustable hard metal is “steel.” (Or maybe Shashara shouted to her colleague, “Yes – steel!” and they misunderstood her? Da-dum…) Every other source stating Nightblood is Awakened “steel” derives from the quoted text, including fan questions and Brandon’s responses. If Nightblood really is steel, that forecloses my speculation. But maybe Shashara felt shamed Yesteel had “shown her up.” Maybe she found her own “trick” to prove herself. Consider the following evidence. 1. Brandon says Nightblood needs to feed on Investiture because he is “leaky.” But Endowment’s Investiture “sticks.” Stormlight “leaks.” Nightblood’s “black smoke” looks like the black smoke streaming from the eyes of those killed by a Shardblade. 2. 1,000 Breaths seems too few to Awaken and give consciousness to “steel.” “This process shouldn’t have worked…. Nightblood should not be alive.” Maybe 1,000 Breaths IS enough to Awaken the “dead” – unconscious – spren that comprises the Shardblade. There are two paraphrased WoBs about this that may refer to the same conversation. One says “a piece of stone or wood or cloth or plain metal” with 1,000 Breaths “needs more” to be as Invested as Nightblood. The other RAFOs a similar question. 3. “Nightblood is one of the most heavily Invested things in the cosmere that is not a Shard.” If I am right, Nightblood permanently holds the Investiture of a full Radiantspren plus Breaths equivalent to half a Returned. Radiantspren themselves constitute a large amount of Investiture: “The Investiture in a Shardblade is much greater than your average Allomancer.” Shardblades also exceed the Investiture in the Bands of Mourning. Radiantspren and Breaths both naturally bond with humans and should have no problem bonding with one another. Breaths adjust to their holder’s Identity, even when the holder is a barely Awakened spren from Roshar. Brandon says he can’t accurately compare Nightblood’s power with a Shardblade’s power, but “when he is fully consuming Investiture he can do some really freaky things.” A footnote to that WoB says, “In the past Brandon has described Nightblood as being ‘magnitudes more invested than a shardblade’.” I’ve not seen that description. “Magnitudes” implies logarithmic orders of ten. That seems unlikely unless some of the Investiture Nightblood consumes adheres to him – making him “fatter” as one poster puts it. Without seeing Brandon’s description, I’m inclined to discount the footnote. Even without absorbing new Investiture, holding a Radiantspren and half a Returned would still make Nightblood “one of the most heavily Invested things in the cosmere….” Brandon RAFOs questions about what happens to the consumed Investiture. 4. Nale treats Nightblood as the equivalent of a highspren Shardblade. Nightblood might have started as a highspren, a Skybreaker’s spren. But Shashara’s Awakening command to “Destroy Evil” permanently overwrites the spren’s original “ideal.” Discerning “evil” is Nale’s primary Divine Attribute – “Just.” “Justice” is a moral judgment, the weighing of good and evil. Nale attunes to an Investiture that wants to “Destroy Evil.” He wouldn’t have kept or given Szeth the sword if he didn’t sense the spren – and not just the Breaths or Awakened “steel” – inside Nightblood. Taln recognized Pattern inside Shallan when she visited him in the ardent hospital. 5. Nightblood “speaks” like a child, much like Syl did before her bond with Kaladin developed more fully. Vasher notices incipient maturity in Nightblood, as if Nightblood’s bond were also developing. I speculate below that Nightblood and Szeth will bond fully now that Nightblood’s back on Roshar. 6. The Frankenstein image of Nightblood as a patchwork of magics fits nicely. The full WoB is ambiguous. “A bunch of souls” might refer only to Breaths, but the "something" they are stuffed into could be a "dead" Shardblade - a spren. Szeth Will Bond Nightblood-Spren The spren constituting Nightblood is sufficiently Awake as to bond with its holders. Szeth’s soul is more broken than most – he’s been wrongfully made Truthless and then killed. Lift sees his soul’s “after-image.” This opens opportunities for Nightblood to begin a more intrusive bonding process. I believe he will learn morality from Szeth – a warrior-priest turned unwilling assassin. Szeth has lived evil. He will know how to direct Nightblood to destroy it. In Szeth’s hand, Nightblood will become the “Sword of Retribution” pictured in WoR. Can he direct Nightblood to consume only the voidspren inside the listeners? Nightblood will tell Szeth his spren-name. On Roshar he can form a Nahel bond with Szeth and give him the Skybreaker power to bind the Gravitation and Division Surges. Szeth will become a Knight Radiant, and Nightblood will be his Shardblade. “Nightblood can feed off Stormlight, but Szeth can't draw in Stormlight right now. So Szeth better not draw that sword, for a while at least. [Emphasis added.]” * * * * * That’s a lot of speculation to build from “black smoke.” Is there any fire there?
  10. Hey there Sanderfans, I just want to let everyone one know that there is a Brandon-themed Humble Bundle available now. It will be running for the next two weeks and features most of Brandon's novellas, a selection of Mistborn Adventure Game sourcebooks, as well as the Graphic Audio editions of Elantris and Warbreaker. Check it out here! The Bundle is broken up into the following tiers: For those who pay $1 or more Firstborn / Defending Elysium Omnibus The Emperor's Soul Legion Legion: Skin Deep Warbreaker Part 1 - Graphic Audio Elantris Part 1 - Graphic Audio Mistborn Adventure Game For those who pay $8 or more Sixth of the Dusk Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell Perfect State Warbreaker Part 2 - Graphic Audio Elantris Part 2 - Graphic Audio Terris: Wrought of Copper - Mistborn Adventure Game For those who pay $15 or more Snapshot Dreamer The Hope of Elantris - Graphic Audio Warbreaker Part 3 - Graphic Audio Elantris Part 3 - Graphic Audio White Sand volume 1 Alloy of Law - Mistborn Adventure Game All told, if you pay $15 you are getting $174 worth of stuff (that's over 90% off). For reference, just one Part of the Graphic Audio adaptations ordinarily costs $14. It is also important to note that The Emperor's Soul, Legion, and Legion: Skin Deep are not available in regions where Gollancz has exclusive distribution rights (pretty much anywhere that used to be part of the British Empire). Also this Humble Bundle is currently (as far as I can tell) the only place to get the solo ebook release of Dreamer and the Graphic Audio edition of The Hope of Elantris. In other news Amazon.com has a listing up for preorder for a solo hardcover release of Edgedancer. Previously, Edgedancer was going to be exclusive to Arcanum Unbounded for five years but it looks like Tor is amending their contract with Brandon in order to give it an individual release in October 2017. Just in time for a re-read before the release of Oathbringer in November! Nauvoo Games, who are making the Reckoners board game, has also posted some pictures on Twitter, from an event they did last month: I do not know for sure if this is the actual art style they are planning for the game, but I really hope it is. I think it captures the feel of the Reckoners trilogy perfectly. I also love that they used the Superman symbol, presumably as the symbol of the Faithful. Unfortunately however, I doubt that will remain in the actual release due to licensing reasons. Especially since the pendant in Abraham's portrait uses a different design for it. Edit: Since the people over at Nauvoo Games are awesome they just shared on Twitter that there will also be minis included in the game and posted a mock-up of a mini for Abraham!
  11. Has anyone noticed that Szeth gets Nightblood in the end of Words of Radiance.
  12. Vasher was a fool to bring Nightblood to Roshar... So Nightblood feeds on investiture, and its power is directly proportional to the amount of investiture it consumes. So far, we have seen Nightblood wielded by mere mortals, whose investiture is minor. But what if more investiture is used, much more... This is the End of the Cosmere. If a Shard were to wield Nightblood, unimaginable amounts of investiture would be available to it, enhancing it, strengthening it, making it the most powerful weapon the Cosmere possibly has ever seen! Fully unsheathed, perhaps Nightblood could destroy entire worlds, Shatter Shards... perhaps with enough investiture, even destroy the entire Cosmere. The possibilities are frightening. So this is why Vasher was a fool to bring it right into Odium's hands. Szeth will do well with it for now, but Szeth will die, Nightblood taken from him, and fall into Odium's greedy hands. With the power of Nightblood, at the expense of his own investiture, Odium can and will destroy Roshar, shatter Cultivation and any other Shard that stands in his way, and make way for his reign of terror. Then he will use the splinters of those Shards to fuel Nightblood, increasing its power. Perhaps this is how SA 5 will end, and the Red Mist is actually the enhanced form of Nighblood's black smoke. But not is all lost. Odium will be consumed by Nightblood, his hatred amplified, blinding him, forcing him to shove more and more investiture into Nightblood, until Nightblood has consumed all of Odium. But now Nightblood (possibly) the most powerful entity in the Cosmere. Depending on how Nightblood uses the investiture it consumes, it might Ascend to become a conglomerate Shard of the splinters and Odium. But its Intent is to destroy evil, tainted by Odium and fueled by the rest, Nightblood will destroy the Cosmere, if were not for Hoid. Hoid will save us, somehow. So stepping back from my doomsaying, this theory relies on how Nightblood functions. Feel free to pry it apart and add to it.
  13. A friend of mine recently ordered a personalized copy of Warbreaker from Brandon's site with the following question: Simply, yes, an Awakener can give Breaths to Nightblood, but Nightblood cannot use those Breaths to Awaken.
  14. So, there has been a moderate amount of speculation, verging on certainty, that spren can be corrupted... and quite a few people are saying that maybe Sja-Anat has that ability. I looked this up on theoryland briefly, but I was hoping maybe somebody knows a WoB that can either confirm or refute that investiture can be 'corrupted' in the sense of 'metamorphosized' or 'changed in nature'. I have this WoB:
  15. So I was at a signing recently for Arcanum Unbounded and during it Brandon Sanderson said (sort of candidly and I can't think of the exact quote) that Spren do not yet know of how to "revive" the Spren that are in shardblades but making it clear that it was possible. He has also said that Nightblood is the equivalent of a spren. My question is, if spren can be revived out of their blades then could Nightblood be "awoken" in a similar manner? And if so what the ramifications of that might be?
  16. What! A podcast that isn't Splintercast Reads A Book? I know, it does seem crazy, but it's true. Welcome to the Shardkeepers Podcast, our theory podcast where we discuss all sorts of minutiae of the cosmere. As I learned when recording, this usually results in headaches, but we make that sacrifice for you. Today, we're going to talk about an amazing quote that we got earlier this year about Nightblood that blew our minds. There's so much to unpack from this. Let's get started. On Shardkeepers you should expect massive spoilers from cosmere books. Beware! Here there are big spoilers for Warbreaker and Stormlight Archive. Joining me is Kerry (KChan), David (Windrunner), and Ian (WeiryWriter) who should better be known as the quote master, because I don't know how he finds those so fast. We're all thrilled to have awaken (get it? Ha. Hilarious) this podcast again. Again, you ask? Well there maybe was a Shardkeepers Podcast in May. Of 2013. But shhh, we do not speak of such evils. In seriousness, this is a real thing and we're excited to get this truly off the ground. The plan currently is to not bite off more than we can chew, so expect monthly episodes. Next episode will absolutely be about us unpacking stuff from Arcanum Unbounded, so stay tuned in December for that! If you'd like to discuss this, we thought we would post a theory topic so you too can dig into what we discuss. Check it out here, or leave a comment below. iTunes and other podcast support coming sooner than soon(™) but not this week.
  17. We know that a divine breath is a splinter of Endowment, which is given to every Returned. We know that every Nalthian has a breath, which is the power of life - " a certain BioChromatic Investiture" according to the Coppermind. Nightblood required 1,000 breaths to create. We know that splinters can, over time, develop sentience on their own. Can investiture (not necessarily a splinter) develop sentience on its own? In other words, could Nightblood be considered a splinter of Endowment, since it was created with a significant amount of Endowment's investiture?
  18. This is a rough flow chart of what books Brandon has said he would like to create first. It's quite rough, and is subject to change as new information comes in. This is the order of series to be created according to Brandon during his last State of the Sanderson. Something tells me that some of the books like Nightblood won't be seeing the light of day for at least 7-8 years (mind you, that's compared to about 15 years for the average author, or 20 for Pat Rothfuss). Kind of downheartening. Please note, I WILL be editing this as new information comes in, so hopefully it won't be as bad as it can appear. A few quick notes: A = Alcatraz Series
  19. I haven't ever tried making artwork before, but I realized I hadn't seen any good depictions of Nightblood and decided to give it a shot. This one is Nightblood unsheathed, without the scabbard. I'll probably try one with it and just a bit of smoke leaking out from the hilt at some point. Obviously had to take some artistic license with the blackness or otherwise it'd have been a very bland image.
  20. I was checking on Reddit when I found a WoB of a real Interesting question, the answer was a RAFO but it may be useful to avoid the same question in the future: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stormlight_Archive/comments/51u8qu/oathbringer_spoilers_stormlight_three_update_4/d8u49pu?context=3
  21. THE KNIGHTBLOOD GUILD!! Dedicated to destroying evil, wherever it may lie. We are the Knightbloods. Guardians of the shard. We were Mistborn We were Radiants We were Awakeners We were Elantrians Now forgo the past, take up the sentient blade! And slay some evil today!! First choose your weapon, new recruits. place it in your signature and choose a name for it that is adjectivenoun(i.e. nightblood, furystorm, wetdog.) and give it a command. (i.e destroy nighthound, theorize everything) second. theorize about the sentient blade Nightblood, corrupt investiture, and such. participate in RP's and the general thread. be part of the shard. third, your sword speaks in italicised so make sure it happens. often. Warmaster: Warriormark16, wielder of Furystorm Original members: Warriormark16, Anamaximder, wielder of Valiantking and Chickenplague wielder of Plainsnake the wild. official shipper of blades: CarolaDavar wielder of lightsketch
  22. I just finished re-reading Warbreaker and I noticed something pertinent Sanderson mentioned about Nightblood in one of the annotations: So my question is if we could see Szeth run into some very big problems when trying to use Nightblood in SA3. We know that throughout the story he has suffered from the guilt of the murders he's committed, and the agony he has at realizing he was never really Truthless drives him almost insane to the point to where he just lets Kaladin kill him. This to me points very strongly to Szeth "determining deep within his heart that he is evil", so if that's the case isn't there a good chance Nightblood will try to kill him?
  23. Insert obligatory "Hi I'm new" intro here along with a preemptive apology for breaking rules/norms I'm not aware of. (But seriously, if there's anything I could/should be doing differently, let me know.) So Brandon has said two apparently contradictory things in the second question here and in question 66 (part 3) here relating to whether or not investure can be destroyed. In the former quote, Brandon says that nightblood is reducing the amount of investure in the cosmere, but in the latter says that investure cannot be created or destroyed. I suppose nightblood could be a special exception to the general rule of Conservation of Investure, but that seems wrong to me because when Brandon talks about Nightblood, he speaks as if it it still follows the same rules of magic as everything else despite its unique properties. I couldn't find any other quotes on this, nor any mention in the list of questions for Brandon. What do you guys think? EDIT: Please note that the second quote specifically says that Hemalurgy doesn't result in the loss of investure from the universe as a whole.
  24. So I guess other shards effects last despite what world your on. I'm just wondering how Nightblood still has power and consciousness on Roshar without breaths. Also how is Vashor still alive since he needs one breath a week to stay alive? Can they substitute stormlight?
  25. So, I have this crazy idea. Powers you need to have to make it work: copper Feruchemy copper Allomancy aluminium Feruchemy duraluminium Feruchemy Awakening and at least Ninth Heightening Assumption: Compounding copper lets you multiply stored memories (so you end up with 10 copies of the burned memory). That way you can both remember everything and at the same time have it stored. First, you make a sword out of copper, aluminium and duraluminium. It doesn't have to be sword, but let's say it is. You store copper, aluminium and duraluminium 100% and Compound copper to have your memories back and still have a full coppermind. Then you Awaken the sword (I'm still figuring out the Command). Since the metalminds are yours, the Breaths take the path of least resistance and model the sentience after the metalminds. That way you should have an Awakened sword with your mind (as in the process of Awakening it drains your Identity, your Connections and all of your memories). Maybe you also need to throw in nicrosil, I'm not sure. Your thoughts?