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  1. I reread Emperor's soul recently and was thinking of useful ways to use soul stamping in the cosmere. In most cases it requires time to study your subject to make a useful stamp but essence marks don't have the same problem. We see Shai use them in a variety of ways once they are returned to her. I started thinking if Shai made more essence marks or if we saw another soulforger in the cosmere what essence marks would be useful. Here is the list I have so far Sailor Medic - this could help with regular medic things but Shai mentions how resealing, or healing people via stamps is hard because the user has to know all the different muscles and how the body works so this could be a potential shortcut Actor/diplomat - it sounds like soulforgers are generally pretty good at reading people and presenting themselves in certain ways but getting better at accents or imitations or a more flamboyant personality could be useful in certain situations, Chef Blacksmith or some kind of crafter Most of these are just different career choices so they aren't anything crazy but I bet there are some other ones out there. The one I find the most interesting is the beggar essence mark because it encompasses a couple skills (disguise, lock picking, contortion skills, being able to move through a crowd) so if anyone can think of more essence marks like that I would love to hear them.
  2. I know that Brandon has been vague on the chronology of the Cosmere, but we know roughly that it’s White Sand, then Elantris, then Mistborn era one, Stormlight Archive, era 2. I was wondering if we knew when Emperor’s Soul took place. Around the same time as Elantris? Before? After?
  3. So Shai is Moonlight. I get that. Makes relative sense. I’m sure Shai was an easy person to recruit into the Ghostbloods. However, for being hundreds of years old, she sure does not seem to be the most powerful forger of her time. From what she has said, she has three soul stamps on her. Two of which are universal stamps, which I am certain is quite difficult to pull off. The third is an essence stamp that makes her an Elantrian, which is also surely difficult to pull off. However. Three soul stamps? Really? Shai is certainly better than that. Is it a limitation of resources? What Shai has made is certainly impressive, but probably something an average forger could pull off in 100 years of living. I think it’s safe to assume Shai’s been kicking for longer than that, and again, she is THE BEST forger of her lifetime. If this is the Shai we know, I would expect a whole briefcase of powerful soul stamps, including more than just one essence mark. I understand that she only has so much access to her abilities, since there’s only so much Dor that she has access to. However, even with limited resources, more options are always welcome. I find it slightly hard to believe that Shai wouldn’t have proper materials to make more, as the Ghostbloods are at this point quite far reaching and could certainly procure some. Especially since, as far as I’m aware, Shai is quite high up in their ranks. So what’s up? Why does Shai, the most powerful forger or her time, who has presumably been alive for hundreds of years, honing her skills, pals with Kelsier himself, have only three soul stamps?
  4. It's mostly all in the title. If Kaladin somehow went brain dead, would Shai(if she somehow was on Roshar) be able to recreate his soul? I mean (Emperor's Soul) He hides a lot of his trauma, and puts on a front of "I'm doing fine!". The question is how well does he hide it... Also, I don't know if any one person knows all of his experiences.
  5. What did you think of Emperor's Soul? Does anyone dislike it? Why? If you liked/loved it, any particular reason?
  6. Background So, I have just finished a reread of Elantris and something caught my eye. When the city was in its full glory enchanted items based on Aons made by Elantrians were used for a plethora of things that made the city more comfortable, light, plumbing, etc. As I thought on this a theory came to my mind, now I could be completely off base so please bear with me. One aspect of these items that caught my attention were aons put in people's homes such as the one for light (Ashe). Given that many non elantrians also lived in the city I assume they were also capable of using the ashe aon to alter the lighting in their rooms. Otherwise they would have to call an elantrian in to do it for them, which sound very inconvenient. So I began to wonder if they could utilize these enchanted items could this be expanded upon further? I should specify I don't mean that those non elantrians made the aon, but rather were able to utilize what was already present as made by the Elantrians. The Theory Essentially I began to wonder what would happen if Sel advanced far enough to enter the computer age? Could computers that were crafted specifically by Elantrians then be used to form Aons? Potentially even Aons useable by anyone as the initial creation would have been done by an Elantrian. If this proves impossible, as the idea of normal people using the enchanted items is speculation on my part. There is still a possibility of Elantrians being able to rapidly expedite their casting via a form of automation. Weak Points to The Theory I am aware that while Elantrians could use tools such as quills, sticks, etc to make aons and they still functioned. Ultimately they needed to use their intent as part of the process. I also concede that I may be completely off base in assuming that the Aons will function without being directly made by an Elantrian. Either way I thought the idea was interesting and I hope you do as well. Afterword Thank you for bearing with me there. I would love any and all thoughts on the theory, and look forward to the discussion.
  7. Do you remember that day? That terrible, monumental, glorious day? The day when the Rose Empire was changed forever. The day the usurping Glory Faction came, fought, conquered. The Heritage Faction, unfortunately, didn't stand a chance. When they fell, they fell hard. The change in leadership sent ripples through the entire kingdom, and everyone from arbiters to urchins to forgers felt its effect. It seems it was so long ago, yet the time has passed in a blink of eye. Well, the Glory Faction's rule is stable now. It didn't take them long, all things considering. The Rose Empire settled, falling back into a familiar rhythm. But not the Heritage Faction. How could they? The kingdom had been swept from under their feet in the most brutal of ways, and nothing had been done about it. It had been forgotten about as quickly as a Rememberer's smudge on a painting would be once they covered it up. No, ever since their downfall, those still in the Heritage Faction vowed they would hold the kingdom in their grasp again. Political revenge is a particularly nasty disease, and the Heritage Faction is infected with it. And at long last, they might have the numbers to stand a chance. The Glory Faction's rule may soon be fading into the shadows, and they hardly have a clue of what's to come. ~ The Forger sat in their den, deep under the palace, and smiled. The time has finally arrived. They uncovered an Essence Mark, of their own making- the Forger wouldn't dare trust anyone else's work- and their smile grew wider. The Mark was of excellent craftmanship, a stamp with the most intricate detailing imaginable. And it was time to use it. The Forger quickly inked it, despite there being no reason for haste, and pressed the stamp into their skin. It didn't matter what their name was before, because now they were someone else. As the stamp burned in the Forger's skin, changing their identity, they looked up at the ceiling. Towards the palace. Towards the Emperor's seat and the power of the Rose Empire. I will not fail, ancestors. I will make you proud. When all was done, the Rose Empire would burn. Welcome to MR54: Fading Glory! This game is a rerun of MR37/AN6, which was created and ran as a blackout game by @Elandera, so credit to the concept and rules go to her. Many thanks for letting me borrow the ruleset! A link to the original game can be found here. I'll be the GM for this game, and @Elandera will be the IM. I thought it'd be fun to let the story of the game take place chronologically in the same universe and after MR37, in which the eliminators (Glory Faction) won a decisive victory over the villagers (Heritage Faction). So I switched the names of the factions for the rerun Hope that doesn't cause too much confusion. Signups will run for about a week, ending on Saturday, November 6th, at 1pm PST, assuming enough people sign up. That will be the rollover time for the duration of the game, unless something in my schedule changes. One final disclaimer: It's been a few years since I've read Emperor's Soul, so I apologize in advance for anything I screw up lore/worldbuilding wise Thanks! Anyway, without further ado, here are the rules: Basics: Factions: Soul Forger: Faction-Specific Roles: Non-Faction Specific Roles: Art: OoA: If you prefer the rules in doc form, that can be found here. Player List: Spectators: Pinch-Hitters: Quicklinks:
  8. So in an update a couple of days ago Brandon offered a poll regarding the Emperor’s Soul hardcover reprint. You can read the article here, which shows the alternative they are considering. Since the Emperor’s Soul is already included in Arcanum Unbounded, I was wondering if there are plans for an Arcanum Unbounded 2? One which comprises Dawnshard, White Sand 2 & 3, and any other shorter works in the future. The version of Emperor’s Soul on my Shelf is AU, and since the poll was regarding fan preference in bookshelf consistency… well I figured I’d voice my preference.
  9. It has been years since the Emperor was fixed by the Forger and the Heritage Faction was saved from losing control of the government. There has been evidence of Forgery of Imperial artifacts, and at first it was thought that Shai had come back but she had been contacted and it turned out she was on the other side of the continent. This meant there was only one possibility. Others had learned that the Heritage Faction had allowed the work of Forgers, so they had employed them to try and take control from them once and for all. ------ Welcome to Quick Fix 53: Forging a Nation! The rules are down below, but are quite simple and should take less than two minutes to read through. Here is a link to the doc if you want it. Signups will end on May 31, at 10 pm PST. Rollovers should be pretty quick each turn. Rules: Player List: Pinch Hitters: Quick Links:
  10. Could a worldhopping forger (like Shai from emperors soul) use a soul stamp to give themselves powers from other worlds? Like, could they change their soul to become a level 4 radiant, or an allomancer, or anything else? Discuss
  11. NOTE: This post contains some spoilers for the story "The Emperor's Soul" and the Mistborn books including Secret History I recently started rereading some of the other Cosmere books after RoW (Elantris, Mistborn, portions of Arcanum Unbounded). After reading "The Emperor's Soul" I have come to a conclusion that I sure hope is true. After the big reveal in Rhythm of War regarding Thaidakar's identity, I am convinced that Shai is going to turn up as a Ghostblood. There are a few reasons for this: 1) Shai is the perfect crew member for Kelsier - Kelsier has a penchant for gathering specialists in every arena, and no one is a greater specialist in Forging than Shai. Even beyond using the actual magical skill of Forging, she is stunningly skilled in overall forgery and subterfuge of many types that would deeply interest Kel. 2) Like Kel, Shai has issues with Hoid - We know from "The Emperor's Soul" that Shai ended up being captured in the first place because Hoid sold her out (as the Imperial Fool, aka Wit 1.0) in order to steal the Moon Scepter, a sort of key to access all of the investiture related powers on Sel. She is on a mission to hunt him down. We know Kel & Hoid also have potential unfinished business after their volatile confrontation at The Well of Ascension. The enemy of my enemy is my friend--Kel & Shai are natural allies. 3) Sel might be the easiest planet for Kel to worldhop to--or at least meet Shai from - I say "easy" with caution due to the dangerous nature of worldhopping to Sel (due to the investiture storm caused by the splinters of Devotion & Dominion in the cognitive realm), but we know from Secret History that the IRE were able to set up a base (theoretically connected to the Dor somehow--long extension cord? ) on the edge of Scadrial's portion of Shadesmar. This begs the question if Scadrial is "close" to Sel's Shadesmar. We still don't know how someone would worldhop to Sel, but it seems reasonable that either A) Kel might have figured out how to do so, B ) He at least got to Sel's Shadesmar zone (perhaps to some sort of safe haven there?), or C) Shai managed to worldhop somehow and they met elsewhere. Addendum: We know the Ghostbloods have connections on Sel. It is also significant that Mraize has a Seon which further connects them to that world. 4) They share a unique connection in their scars - It really stood out to me this time that Shai shares a unique trait with Kel--the arm scars left on her by the Bloodsealer's cuts. She was cut every single day over the course of around 90-something days. Kel's title as Lord of Scars may be a point of interesting connection with Shai. 5) She would make quite the formidable foil to Shallan - The similarities between forgery and both lightweaving & soulcasting are striking. Shai is a considerable con-artist even without Forgery, but if she & or Kel were to figure out how to overcome the connection problem with Sel (something we already know Kel is interested in and may have figured out related to the discovery of those Nicrosil excisor medallions), she might be able to access Forgery to a limited degree off-world. Shai and Shallan are both artists, both talented at disguise, and both have the ability to affect the souls of objects in different ways. With Shallan having potentially allied with Wit rather than Thaidakar, a conflict could be very interesting. 6) We know that Brandon has confirmed Shai will show up again--potentially as a worldhopper - The Cosmere has grown much more complex since some of the big reveals in Rhythm of War. Of all the various factions at work among the Cosmere-aware, the Ghostbloods seems the most likely one to match Shai's skills and personality as opposed to the 17th Shard, IRE, etc. We know she's showing up again--while anything can happen, this theory seems like a strong possibility. What are your thoughts? Any other connections (or things I totally missed)?
  12. In The Emperor's Soul, Shai gets caught because she's betrayed by her accomplice, the Imperial Fool. That's Hoid, right?
  13. I just read Emperor's Soul for the second time and it was just as good on the reread even though the first happened a few months ago. It might be my favorite of his short stories (except for Shadows of Silence or Sixth of the Dusk or...). I have a couple of questions about how Forging relates to Hemalurgy. I'm guessing based on the Kriss essay on Hemalurgy that Forging ability could be stolen from a person. Could I steal some one's stamp? For instance, I could put Shai in a situation where she uses her warrior stamp then take it? Also, could Forging allow someone to switch/gain magical abilities? Like, could I reforge someone into being an Elantrian? P.s. I'm relatively new to the discussion boards so please forgive me if I missed some earlier conversations.
  14. Finished! Nine characters from eight Shardworlds! From left to right: Dusk from First of the Sun / Kaladin from Roshar / Vasher from Nalthis / Hoid from Yolen / Harmony (Sazed) / Khriss from Taldain / Shai from Sel / Vin from Scadrial / Silence from Threnody This piece is also celebratory art! Happy Chinese New Year 2016 (Year of the monkey)! At first I drew these characters mainly for an online fantasy magazine because they kind of let me (as translator of WoR) introduce Stormlight and the whole Cosmere series in their New Year issue, which meant I’d better add some festival stuff. So here it is - Characters from eight different Shardworlds wishing you a Happy New Year! In China, this is a popular traditional gesture when people give New Year’s greetings. It’s called 作揖 (zuò yī, in spoken language: zuō yī). When you do this, you make a bow with hands folded in front of you and greet others at the same time. Raise your folded hands and then lower them. The motion can be repeated several times. For men, they should use their left hand to cover their right hand (In ancient China, men tended to hold weapon with their right hand, so they covered it when saluting, to reduce hostility and show respect.), while for women, they should do it otherwise and it’s better not to clench the left hand into a fist (You can learn this from the picture above.). If you do it wrong, you will convey some ominous meaning. Please be careful # # # Heck, so many tags! Also seriously, I think we may need a Cosmere crossover art album
  15. So, who tried to assassinate Emperor Ashravan? And did successfully assassinate his wife, Kurshina. The strongest contenders, the biggest suspects in-world as per the characters themselves, is the Glory Faction, one of the 80 factions which compete for power in the Rose Empire. The Emperor himself and the five arbiters including Gaotona are from the Heritage Faction. The Glory Faction stood to gain the most from the assassination and seemed to act as though to make the most of his possible death There are two out there options though, that I want to explore: Fjordell Empire or the as of yet unknown third empire on Sel. Both of these entities might, much like on Earth, like for their rival superpower to enter political turmoil. There was even a Shu Dereth priest in the Imperial Seat of the Rose Empire whom Shai encountered. The Derethi priest in red could've been a red herring, I guess but despite what Occam's razor might tell you, the simplest solution isn't always the right one, deviations do occur. It could also be a way to introduce us to the third empire on Sel or to tie them back to previous works set on the same world Historically speaking, it was common for outside powers to ally themselves with inside oppositions and rivals of the government they were trying to destabilize. Sometimes they provided resources to these rivals to topple the government or assassinate the ruler, sometimes they didn't want to rely on a coup d'état and used their own personnel and expected their insider allies to provide them with a way in. Either of these scenarios could fit the bill as well Also, why would Hoid try to have Shai captured, I mean, you could argue that he just wanted to get the Moon Sceptre but to me at least that doesn't seem quite right. He's Hoid, he should've been able to steal it himself or steal it from under the noses of both the Rose Empire & Shai if it came down to it. I'm not trying to vouch for the goodness of his heart but he doesn't seem like the type to do this. In the deleted prologue too, it seemed as though he wanted Shai to Soulforge Ashravan: https://www.brandonsanderson.com/the-emperors-soul-deleted-prologue-imperial-fool/ And it just seems weird for Hoid to meddle in the politics of other worlds for no reason. He is supposed to have access to a form of Fortune which lets him know where/when he needs to be (though not what for). Was something bigger going on behind the scenes of this novella? Why would stability in the Rose Empire be something big enough for Hoid to interfere or was that just two birds with one stone? What do you guys think? Or do we already have confirmation from Brandon?
  16. I am going to start this topic with the most auspicious declaration of: Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! This is my FAVOURITE Cosmere work! *clears throat* now on with the actual topic. Wan ShaiLu, the Forger is arrested while attempting to steal a painting in the capital of the Rose Empire, where Hoid, disguised as the Fool, ensures her capture (while stealing the Moon Sceptre himself) so as to force her to fulfill the task that would be thrust upon her as a condition for her release. Which raises the question of why Hoid would consider this important enough to require his attention? Would a change of Emperors be so great a political upheaval? But much more interestingly, when Shai does successfully Forge a new soul for the Emperor, what exactly does the Emperor become? Does Ashravan qualify as a Cognitive Shadow? Or is the new Ashravan truly a new Ashravan? (which is kind of terrifying) When the injury rendered Ashravan in a vegetative state, was it more akin to gluing something broken back up together or perhaps more like patchwork stitching? ~Mistborn spoilers~ That is, was Ashravan still alive in a way in the Cognitive? Was his Identity damaged in some way? Did Shai just resurrect him? ~Warbreaker spoilers~ Did she just create a new Spiritweb or repair the original? Had the original Ashravan passed into the Beyond at this point? This WoB indicates that death in the Cosmere is a rather complicated affair: ~Mistborn & Warbreaker spoilers~ Brandon has made comparisons between these three situations before: What exactly is Ashravan now?
  17. It's probably really obvious and I just dont know where to look but I was thinking, would aluminium and duralumin ferrings be easier to soul stamp while storing attributes and harder to stamp while tapping their mettalminds? Do we have any WoBs or something about how identity and connection affect soul stamps?
  18. We have seen Shallan, when she takes a memory and draws people around her, affect people's self-perception and the actions that they take. Two prime examples of this are the slaver guard in tWoK and Elhokar in OB. I believe, and I think I've seen this elsewhere, that Shallan is doing some kind of Spiritual transformation through her art, that she is literally (but benignly and in small ways) changing these people's spirit webs or Identity. I think this may be comparable in some ways to what Shai does in Emperor's Soul. If this is correct, could we see Shallan modify someone's Identity/spirit web in such a way that they don't accept a long-term injury and become amenable to Growth/Regrowth-style healing? I'm thinking of something like Kaladin's brand or Rysn's legs. Healing and Identity/spirit webs are something that we have seen the end results of but we don't understand the mechanics very well. If Shallan CAN do this, I think it would explain why she has struggled to perform traditional transformation (Soul Casting) in the way that soul casters and Jasnah do it. Her powers, while drawing on the shared surge of transformation, would be very different and far more subtle than Jasnah's (Spiritual Transformation vs Physical Transformation).
  19. Remember how in Emperor's Soul, a braindead person's mind was recreated using an essence mark? Dead shardblades are basically braindead spren (recall how Pattern said spren don't truly die, they just sort of break). It seems probable that you could temporarily resurrect a "dead" shardblade with an essence mark, provided you knew enough about the blade's history to make a forgery. There's most likely an easier way to revive a dead shardblade (I give it 50/50 odds that Adolin resurrects his blade at some point in the books), but, the idea is kind of interesting. Restoring an ancient and damaged thing seems like exactly the kind of thing forgery was made for.
  20. Finished reading it, and I want more! Anyone else? Just seems too good to leave as is.
  21. So we have seen a little bit of a convergence of how Cosmere Magic systems are working, like Soulcasting to Forgery, Sel's symbol based system and now on Scadrial we're seeing symbols start to pop up (I may be wrong on this, I haven't read Era 2 in about 10 months, and I've read a lot of books in the past year). We have a WoB saying Awakening can be fueled by Stormlight... What if a Bondsmith or Herald used Connection abilities to use Awakening Commands and magically subdued/subjugated the Parshmen?
  22. From the album: The Emperor's Soul - Visual Development

    Last one of this series! A mood painting of the hallways of the Imperial Wing. Thank you for all the kind words, hope you enjoyed my interpretation of the Emperor's Soul setting! You can also view the full project here: http://lyraina.artstation.com/projects/wnOGO
  23. I read ES again today and noticed something odd. however... Now these cases could be just hypocrisy at work however the fact that they are on the same planet and in the case of ES no real reason is stated for the hatred I am inclined to think that there is something else at play here. Any thoughts?
  24. From the album: The Emperor's Soul - Visual Development

    Emperor Ashravan's bedchamber. I run with the "phoenix rising toward heaven" theme described in the book (for his bed), and tried to implement it in other parts of the room as well. Or maybe I was just glad for an excuse to draw some of those lovely swirly clouds on the ceiling...! The door in the middle actually leads to the outside, maybe a private garden (which I never got to illustrate though). The actual entrance is located at the front/bottom corner. I also figured that if I were an Empress or Emperor, I'd definitely want some plants in my chambers as well!
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