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Copper Allomancy doesn't entirely make sense to me- it seems to smother the rippling effect created by Kinetic Investiture and simultaneously can smother the effects of Emotional Allomancy on the Smoker. That sounds a lot like if someone were to suck the energy out of soundwaves you could deaden the sound it would make. . . only, you can pierce a Coppercloud with sufficiently strong A-bronze, making the cloud useless. I see two possible explanations for this; 1. A Coppercloud makes a sort of bubble, similar to A-Bendalloy or Cadmium, and within that bubble the Copper actively hides the Pulses made by Kinetic Investiture, but does not actually remove them. A sufficiently strong Seeker can pierce this cloud however, allowing them to sense the Pulses hidden within. 2. The second (and I feel more likely) explanation is that a Smoker is actually absorbing the Pulses of nearby Kinetic Investiture (if I recall correctly, this is how Vin describes it when she senses Copper being burned), but the Smoker is not strong enough to absorb all of the Pulses, meaning that a strong enough Seeker can still potentially sense Pulses through the Cloud. This also could be why they are immune to Emotional Allomancy and why they could theoretically shield other as well (WoB)- they absorb the waves of Investiture that emanate from the Soother/Rioter, preventing it from ever reaching its target. If #2 is true, I think it may be possible to become a strong enough Smoker (via Hemalurgy, F-nicrosil, or external Investiture reserves) to make it impossible to sense any Pulses no matter how strong the Seeker. For example, let's say a Smoker with ten times the strength you'd normally find is strong enough to completely absorb all Pulses from regular powered Allomancy (stronger use of Investiture is easier to detect). Even if a Seeker with one hundred times the strength of that Smoker was to attempt to pierce their Coppercloud, there would be nothing to detect, so they'd sense nothing.

I was thinking about copperclouds, as in the smokers themselves, and I know there have been discussions about how copper allomancy interacts/blocks various forms of investiture detection, but what about direct use of investiture on someone who is burning copper. We know that someone burning copper cannot be affected by emotional allomancy, but my question is whether or not someone burning copper could be affected by surgebinding or aons (or other forms of investiture) directly. I think that probably they can't based on the fact that emotional allomancy doesn't work on them, but what do you all think? Okay, I don't know if anyone has really discussed this before or if there are WoB on it, so if there are, please let me know.

I've been re-reading Mistborn and something hit me as I'm thinking about these powers preparing to hit the cosmere-scale of the story. Does a copper cloud hide all active use of Investiture AND does Brass enable a Seeker to detect any use of Investiture? These skills seem like they'd be really helpful for spying knowing that Scadrial is going to eventually explore other worlds in the cosmere, I'm wondering if we know anything about these powers yet.