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  1. If you had the Breaths to make a Sentient Inanimate BioChromatic being, what object and command would you choose? Mine: I may eventually add some if I think of some, but what would you do?
  2. I honestly don't know where to put this question: in Oathbringer or Warbreaker. Apologies. I had a question about Vivenna. I know she can change her hair color, but can she change her eye color? Again, thank you guys and much apologies if this is in the wrong thread.
  3. I’m just curious, do we know if Awakeners are still able to recall their Breaths even if they invest all of them into an object? Or would they have to keep at least one? If the former, then I can’t help but wonder why the Returned would have to essentially parasitize people to stay alive; couldn’t an Awakener with, say, 1000 Breaths just transfer 999 of them into some inanimate object like Vivenna did, gift the last one to the Returned to keep them alive, and then just reabsorb the remaining 999, then rinse and repeat every week? That would seem like a fairly obvious loophole if it’s possible.
  4. It suddenly occurred to me that once the people of Nalthis discover how to make synthetic fabrics like nylon and polyester, Awakening may become significantly harder. We know that Breath has a hard time Awakening materials like metal and stone that have never been alive. Most of the Awakened objects we see in Warbreaker (aside from Nightblood obviously) are either Lifeless or pieces of fabric. Now, that may be an obvious solution in a medieval/early-modern society, but as Nalthian technology advances to the point where synthetic fibers become commonplace, Awakening becomes a lot less practical. Has anyone else had similar thoughts?
  5. So, forgive me if this has already been discussed elsewhere, but: Do we know if Awakening actually alters the pigment of the Awakener's color source, or only the ability of people to perceive that color? Lots of naturally occurring colors, especially blues, aren't pigment at all, but structural--the result of various types of light scattering. You especially see this in things like bird feathers, insects, and so forth. Notably, this is also what causes blue and green tones in human eyes. But we don't see lifeless shambling in grayscale except for their eyes. They're entirely colorless. I mean, it could just be an oversight or a conceit for thematic purposes. But perhaps it shows that the draining of color we see in Awakening isn't as sinple as alternating pigments.
  6. Another awakened hemalurgic spike question. If you spiked the breath out of someone, so the spike is now charged with breaths, could it self-awaken? We'll say 2000ish breaths were spiked. I know you can awaken something with no command and the breath will just sit there. But what if you have a pile of breaths sitting there, with no awakening having occurred in the first place? Because an awakening without a command could be interpreted by the breaths as specifically 'do nothing'. Would breaths spiked out without any awakening or command lack the default of 'do nothing' and be able to gain sentience by themselves? As the investiture breaths come from seem more inclined to life than any other.
  7. @RShara and @Spoolofwhool brought up the following WOB on discord earlier, which got me thinking: Vasher can't awaken with Stormlight, only surivive on it for now. But Brandon implies it can be figured out. We know that Breath and Stormlight are both investiture, and should both be able to power the same abilities if properly hacked. The difference seems to be that Breath is sticky, and will stay put in any object indefinitely. In fact it's so sticky that it can't be recovered from lifeless at all. Stormlight on the other hand leaks out of people and can only be absorbed by individuals with a nahel bond or honorblade. It can, however, be infused in gemstones, which is the main way to store investiture in Roshar. Fabrials are made of gemstones with captured spren inside. Spren are investiture. "Perfect Gemstones" hold investiture indefinitely, and have been shown capable of trapping even large spren made of significant amounts of investiture (unmade). If Vasher took infused gemstones, and placed them in a fabrial construct made of organic material with a lowered threshold for awakening, for example, by studding his extra long tasseled sleeves on his person shaped cloak with infused rubies in the right locations, he should be able to form the right Intent and vocalize the right command to awaken and animate the garment. Anything but a perfect gemstone would of course slowly leak out the power, but the stones could be replaced or reinfused as needed. A perfect gemstone filled to the brim with stormlight and placed in the pommel of a sword may be able to be awakened into a Type IV sentient object with a single powerful command. Using anything less than a perfect stone would be cruel though, as the entity would need to feed constantly like a Returned to stay infused enough to retain sapience. It may even be possible to place an infused gemstone into a corpse and create a Lifeless who will function until it runs out of stormlight. This combined with soulcasting and the knowledge that went into creating Kalad's Phantoms could be used to create a super soldier. Take the body of a warrior who is killed in battle. Embed a perfect gemstone fully infused with stormlight in the chest of the corpse. Soulcast many thin layers of graphine over the body to create layers of essentially kevlar, soulcast a layer of Kalad's Phantom style armor of thick Stone or Metal on top of that. Awaken the corpse with the most efficient lifeless commands. Use a second infused perfect gemstone in the pommel of a sword as described above to create a sentient Type IV entity with the command "Vex Odium". Give the sword to the super soulcast lifeless soldier. Command the lifeless to obey the sword. Sit back and sip on the color wine of your choosing while Odium gets vexed
  8. Would awakening Iron taken from blood be easier than metal that has not been apart of someone? Example: A supercharged Mistborn pulls the iron from the blood of a random person, would an Awakener be able to awaken the iron pulled from the blood easier than iron that had never been apart of a living object?
  9. I am designing an Awakened metalmind based on feruchemy and awakening. What I have so far: What is it? A metal object worn on the body (ex: a ring, earring, bracelet, necklace, crown, etc.) So far we have: An earing: Metal: TBD (Possibly Aluminum Use: *A personal assistant similar to Jarvis from Iron Man. What is it's purpose? (To be determined based on what type of metal is used) Is it sentient? Yes. The rest? (To be determined based on what type of metal is used) Key: TBD: To be determined. * = More information needed/elaborated.
  10. Background information: Aluminum stores Identity, that is the aspects of your that make you you and what is basically a key to your personal investure in feruchemy. Copper stores memories and can be used to steal intelligence using hemalurgy. it is also a cognitive metal in feruchemy. I am working off of the idea that copper stores a cognitive aspect of a persons self, hence the reason they do not remember the data in their copperminds. Sort of like a cognitive aluminum. I theorize that if a person were to store all their memories and identity in a set of copper and aluminum minds and then awakened or spiked a complex computer/ investure powered computer, then it would form a Investure powered AI that either matched or was very similar to the person who filled the metal minds. Any other theories on how to create a AI, other than Awakening an object like Nightblood. I want something that is not going to drain the life from my body when I turn it on. maybe some sort of metalmind/fabrial combination?
  11. Normally we see awakening turning the object they drew color from into grey, but when Susebron does it the objects turn white. Is that just because of the ridiculous heightening he is at? ...or is it a Tide ad?
  12. I was at the Oathbringer reading in Beaverton, and I got to ask Brandon a question from the audience, I had a spoiler free question ready: With enough breaths and given the proper command, could an awakened toupee be commanded to behave like real hair, and would it believable. Brandon said yes, that should work. I then asked would if it be able to respond to different conditions, like a strong breeze and still be believable as real hair, and he said yes it would. Then I asked if a toupee could be awakened and given the command to protect, and he said yes but that would be weird. So I did this little sketch of what could possibly be the best thing to happen to the Cosmere since Kelsier punched god in the afterlife: Nightwig, a fully awakened toupee, given the command to "Live Beautifully, and Fix Ugly".
  13. It occurred to me some time ago that Awakening is the only magic system in the cosmere where piloting a giant mech is logical. Allow me to explain: Beeath works best when you put it in something human shaped. We have seen that cloth can be greatly strengthened. Stone and steel are very hard to Awaken but straw and other plant based materials are easy. Therefore if I wanted to create a tank powered by Breath I would make a human shaped object out of cloth, wood or other easily awakened materials, this would then be garishly painted to aid the Awakening process. Now I take the above concept and bring it into the future and imaging how a Nalthian spaceship would appear or function. Giant robots In Space. I actually had a less ridiculous thought about awakened ships that I was going to post but this was too much fun.
  14. So we have seen a little bit of a convergence of how Cosmere Magic systems are working, like Soulcasting to Forgery, Sel's symbol based system and now on Scadrial we're seeing symbols start to pop up (I may be wrong on this, I haven't read Era 2 in about 10 months, and I've read a lot of books in the past year). We have a WoB saying Awakening can be fueled by Stormlight... What if a Bondsmith or Herald used Connection abilities to use Awakening Commands and magically subdued/subjugated the Parshmen?
  15. What possibilities do lifeless have in terms of combining them with the power of other shards? Can you soul cast lifeless into metal? If so, would you have to do it before or after awakening it as a lifeless, and would it still be able to move? I think I remember reading that investiture of different shards doesn't play well together, but I don't really know if that means it would make it impossible, or just take a large amount of either Stormlight or breaths. Could you give them hemalurgic spikes, either in combination with soulcasting to metal or by itself, and make a sort of lifeless supersoldiers?
  16. Nightblood has Connection to Ruin. It has been stated by WoB that Nightblood's corruption of Breath is an effect of mixing powers. The Command used to Awaken Nightblood was "Destroy Evil". But Nightblood's sheer power and sentience were unexpected; the Awakening had worked better than it should have, and neither Vasher nor Shashara had understood why. Nightblood was based off of Shardblades; the Five Scholars were Worldhoppers. What if they brought back more than just knowledge of a Shardblade, but something of Ruin too, allowing a Connection between the sword and the Shard? "Destroy Evil" isn't a very accurate way to describe Nightblood's intent either; there seems to be more of a focus on "Destroy" than "Evil". A connection between Ruin and Nightblood would well explain all of this, and Nightblood's personality. After all, Ati was once a "kind and generous man" before Ruin's intent changed him. Finally, Nightblood has been described as "Orders of Magnitude stronger than a Shardblade". Spren are splinters, as are Divine BioChromatic Breath. However, a Divine BioChromatic Breath is worth 2,000 Breath, double that which is Nightblood is Invested with. He must have some source for his power of destruction.
  17. I read a WoB about how Vasher can stay alive much more easily on Roshar, presumably because he uses stormlight as a substitute for Breath, and I started wondering if Breath is something that only people on Nalthis are born. That seems to make sense considering that there aren't awakeners all over the different shardworlds; however, aside from the AonDor the forms of investiture we've seen aren't location dependent. Does this mean that awakening is location dependent in that you can only, for the most part, acquire Breath from people who are natives of Nalthis?
  18. Ok, before I get to my Outrageous Theory I'm going to talk about some things that got me there.. I'm going to point towards some WoB that I've read, sorry in advance as I find it difficult to cycle through all the WoB to find the exact quotes: WoB that suggested that there's more to the creation of Nightblood than a bucket load of breaths and a command WoB that suggests the five scholars were World Hoppers WoB that suggests Nightblood was modeled after a Shardblade Outrageous theory in the form of a humble question: I may be way ahead of myself here, so I'm going to ask some questions that may point us in the right direction or void said theory: In relation to the Cosmere timeline - where is SA compared to Warbreaker? keeping in mind that Nightblood was created at least 3 centuries ago (That was when Vasher ended the war he started wasn't it?) In relation to the Cosmere timeline - when was The Recreance? Is a Shardblade like Aluminum and immune to awakening.? if so, can enough breaths (investiture) overcome this? Is there possibly a Connection issue? (crossing over Shardic Magic) if so, can enough breaths (investiture) overcome this? Thoughts..? !~ HIF ~!
  19. First and foremost: I'm on my phone and my access to internet is flimsy, so I couldn't search if this had been talked about before or not, and my grammar and format might be plainly wrong so, excuse me on both ends, please. I had a lot of thinking time today (where i have to wait in the car and only wait...) and my mind wandered towards the Cosmere as usual. It's very simple, really, but I cane up with something: When you awaken something there are 2 things that ease or handicap the process: if the thing had been previously alive, and if it had a human shape (or at least part of one, like... A foot) The problem with awakening iron or its alloys is that they were never alive. You might make an iron leg to substitute one you lost but awakening that would be hella difficult. But make it out of bone, or wood, and it's a lot more doable. Here is the thing: Trace Elements, or Oligoelements, are small, minuscule amounts of material that our body has and needs but are in such a low percentage that we don't actually count as having them. Iron is one of those Oligoelements, used to make blood (i think?) and the average male adult has 3.8gr of the things in his body (a little less for women). A very small amount. But it's Iron that has been part of a living body, that "remembers" being alive. I'm not actually sure how much iron does a sword actually needs. Let's say it weighs 5kg. You'd need around 1320 humans to acquire that much iron. Let's also assume our extracting methods are not 100% effective... Let's say that we actually siphon correctly half of a persons iron with our procedure and the rest goes down the sink with the rest of the blood. 2640 humans, for a sword that's 50% easier to awaken than one made from mined ores (as it isnt in human shape) It hardly seems practical (if at all), but imagine you GET to do that. Invest a wallop of breaths in the thing, command it to slay evil, and it actually works. damnation... Suddenly, if this method is known, other people might try to repeat it and slaughter another 2640 humans. Wouldn't it be a secret worth killing to keep?
  20. I mentioned this idea in a series of looong posts about Nightblood a few months ago, but it didn't generate any conversation at the time (unsurprisingly, it would have been quite a tangent). I happened to re-read the thread, and decided to expand my thoughts a little bit. Basically, I want to revise the categories of BioChroma. First, I would like to demonstrate that there is a fair chance that there is something inherently special about divine breaths. It's quite simple, really. Children of Returned can have strange abilities like the Royal Locks. Normal people who reach the middle Heightenings don't have children like that. I don't think this is conclusive, since there could be something special about a cognitive shadow having children. That said, I think it is still likely that there is something special about divine breath. It could be a combination effect of the two as well. To actually talk about the categories, I think there are only 3 known types of BioChromatic magic. The creation of Lifeless, awakened objects, and on-self stuff like memory manipulation. The first, lifeless, include normal lifeless that we already know, and Returned. Returned are special case lifeless that have a lot more power going into them, and have the original person reattached. The possible extra stuff with divine breath may contribute as well. Endowment herself gives them the Command and awakens them. The Command she uses is amorphous enough to generally allow them normal free will, while still helping trigger them into fulfilling the purpose they Returned for. The second type includes all awakened inanimate objects. This category includes things that are awakened to full sentience like Nightblood. Awakening him was essentially a normal awakening, just with a much more powerful Command, a more effectively delivered Command, and a lot more breath. The only concrete difference between Nightblood and a standard awakened object is the level of Investiture dumped into him. Now, there is one caveat to that: Nightblood is an extra special case since he is more Invested than a mere 1000 breaths would imply. We don't know where that extra power came from, but it might change him enough that we can't even fully classify him as an awakened object any more. He might be something beyond classification, truly unique. I don't think that would necessarily change anything with my classifications, though. The third known type is the self-targeted stuff. Since we know essentially nothing about it other than that it exists, I won't comment on it too much, other than to say that it may not necessarily be restricted to on-self casting. I would also like to note that this may be how Vasher manipulates his form. I have always thought it strange that the Returned can just mentally change their form. It should require a spiritual component as well, and this kind of magic could potentially provide it. The 'run-of-the-mill' Returned in the Court of the Gods could be using this instinctively to some extent, allowing them to change over time. As one final note, these are only the types we know about. There may be more kinds of things that BioChroma can do besides these things. Like maybe shooting breaths at your enemies Aon Daa style. That particular example doesn't sound likely at all for multiple reasons, but it was the first thing I could think of. I could probably spit-ball a few more possibilities, but they would likely be even worse examples.
  21. There are two questions that have been nagging me lately... First and foremost, I am a very dedicated fan of sanderson's work but I don't lurk too much in these forums, so something like this might be common knowledge, but my Search Surge isn't strong enough to find an answer, so I decided to ask. Please excuse me if there are already answers to this. When an Awakener (the guys with powers on Nalthis, Warbreaker novel) uses his Breaths to animate something, he/she gives them to the object, and in turn this object gains pseudo-life and is suddenly capable of moving by itself. That implies that it should be USING the breaths to power this movements, it needs energy to move. But it's not the case. When the awakener ends the effect, recovers all the breaths used, intact. So... there is a surplus of energy in the world. This definitively doesn't follow the laws of thermodynamics and it makes me wonder: Is there something I don't get? Yeah, color is used as a catalyst... Like Allomancers use metals, I guess. But still... And the second question: If I had a stage light with some color filters pointing at the floor just at the feet of an Awakener... could he/she use the color that the light is granting to the floor to Awaken things, and thus Awaken continuously, as long as he/she still has Breaths?
  22. Hey there Sanderfans, I just want to let everyone one know that there is a Brandon-themed Humble Bundle available now. It will be running for the next two weeks and features most of Brandon's novellas, a selection of Mistborn Adventure Game sourcebooks, as well as the Graphic Audio editions of Elantris and Warbreaker. Check it out here! The Bundle is broken up into the following tiers: For those who pay $1 or more Firstborn / Defending Elysium Omnibus The Emperor's Soul Legion Legion: Skin Deep Warbreaker Part 1 - Graphic Audio Elantris Part 1 - Graphic Audio Mistborn Adventure Game For those who pay $8 or more Sixth of the Dusk Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell Perfect State Warbreaker Part 2 - Graphic Audio Elantris Part 2 - Graphic Audio Terris: Wrought of Copper - Mistborn Adventure Game For those who pay $15 or more Snapshot Dreamer The Hope of Elantris - Graphic Audio Warbreaker Part 3 - Graphic Audio Elantris Part 3 - Graphic Audio White Sand volume 1 Alloy of Law - Mistborn Adventure Game All told, if you pay $15 you are getting $174 worth of stuff (that's over 90% off). For reference, just one Part of the Graphic Audio adaptations ordinarily costs $14. It is also important to note that The Emperor's Soul, Legion, and Legion: Skin Deep are not available in regions where Gollancz has exclusive distribution rights (pretty much anywhere that used to be part of the British Empire). Also this Humble Bundle is currently (as far as I can tell) the only place to get the solo ebook release of Dreamer and the Graphic Audio edition of The Hope of Elantris. In other news Amazon.com has a listing up for preorder for a solo hardcover release of Edgedancer. Previously, Edgedancer was going to be exclusive to Arcanum Unbounded for five years but it looks like Tor is amending their contract with Brandon in order to give it an individual release in October 2017. Just in time for a re-read before the release of Oathbringer in November! Nauvoo Games, who are making the Reckoners board game, has also posted some pictures on Twitter, from an event they did last month: I do not know for sure if this is the actual art style they are planning for the game, but I really hope it is. I think it captures the feel of the Reckoners trilogy perfectly. I also love that they used the Superman symbol, presumably as the symbol of the Faithful. Unfortunately however, I doubt that will remain in the actual release due to licensing reasons. Especially since the pendant in Abraham's portrait uses a different design for it. Edit: Since the people over at Nauvoo Games are awesome they just shared on Twitter that there will also be minis included in the game and posted a mock-up of a mini for Abraham!
  23. So, we have a WoB that a Divine Breath could theoretically be used to Awaken, but it seems like it would have to be something worth giving your life away for, since as best we can guess, it would kill the Returned who did it. However, I can think of one possibility that might be worth it. Imagine making a human-shaped body out of metal, or stone, and then using your Divine Breath to Awaken it, which in theory may also imprint part of your own soul into it. With the right command, would it be possible to basically transfer your entire consciousness into the construct, making yourself into a stone or metal man, fully sapient, but as an Awakened creation of your own?
  24. Divine Breath is incredibly powerful compared to normal Breath. What if it was used to Awaken? What would happen? What if a Lifeless was created using a Divine Breath? Would it become sentient?
  25. Hello 17th shard, I have been reading Sanderson's books for several years and come up with several theories often in a fan fiction dynamic. Unfortunately the questions I sent on the Brandon Sanderson website were not answered in 4 to 6 weeks (or at all!) So after trying other authors, I'm back and more "Invested" now lol. Small question: Is Kriss, 17th Shard etc.. Immortal because they have all visited Nalthis and have lots of Breathe? Big Question: Are Shards technically Cognitive shadows? More to come