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Below is my previous thoughts on Teft confronting Ashertmarn from 2018, with the new info from RoW I was curious what everyone thought about the Heart of the Revel now? " So I was just thinking it would be neat if Teft was the one to capture the Heart of the Revel. Since he has such a close relationship with addiction it seems like he could be a great choice for such a task. I would personally love to see that encounter/arc. Anyways, thoughts?.." Going with the theme of trapping spren with "something they love" and are familiar with, who (if anyone) seems the most likely or best make for besting this particular unmade? It could even be someone like Balat who has to confront his sadistic nature to grow as a person. The revel is unparalleled pleasure for pleasure's sake and Balat's sadism is clearly a coping mechanism. I think it would be very striking for him to lure the Heart in due to his "carnal" nature. I could see him confronting the heart and basically making it contradict itself or recognize the intrinsic flaws with the "party today, worry tomorrow mentality." Please point out any flaws you see with my rough theory here and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. (also this is completely my opinion, if I crossed canon please let me know)
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So I was just thinking it would be neat if Teft was the one to capture the Heart of the Revel. Since he has such a close relationship with addiction it seems like he could be a great choice for such a task. I would personally love to see that encounter/arc. Anyways, thoughts?..
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theory [OB] I think, Shallan is being manipulated by Odium/Ashertmarn...
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Now this actually started in the KSA discussion thread, but I think, that it should be more public. --- In the wonderful Chapter 82: The Girl Who Stood Up, Hoid tells Shallan the following. So Wit is trying to tell her, that Shallan needs to revert the process that she did and love herself again. He sees a woman more wonderful than any of the lies, the woman that she has always been. The woman, that doesn't need Veil and Radiant, but encompasses all of them. A few chapters later, where she confronts Ashertmarn, she hears the following in Wit's voice... Now, in the fight with Re-Shephir Shallan mentioned, that when Re-Shephir and she formed a connection and she was 'laid bare'. I think, that that happens whenever she 'merges' with an Unmade. The first voices obviously are from Ashertmarn, the Heart of the Revel, but.. I was thinking, that Shallan was 'laid bare' again and Ashertmarn somehow got a memory from her, that included the scenes in Chapter 82 and the Unmade felt her predicament with fracturing personalities and her trust in Wit... and manipulates her into keeping her personas by pushing them into submission, which is what she thinks she is doing by the end of OB, through using Wit's voice. But Ashertmarn is described as mindless... Just speculating this, but Unmade are Splinters of Odium, right? I think, it was actually Odium, who communicated with her through Ashertmarn? Into keeping her messed up by keeping her fragmented? Side note, that Pattern always seemed concerned about Shallan's doing with the personas and hummed in appreciation to Wit's original advice. And I have a feeling, that Pattern became more distant through the course of the book. I always remembered him far chattier and interested. Is their bond deteriorating, because Shallan is straying further and further away from her path of attaining self-awareness? Would also make sense with how he tried to manipulate Dalinar... with the Thrill... Another Unmade, Nergaoul. It just seems such a contrast from what Wit said... I know Wit is stupidly capable and mysterious, but I can't see how he could have made any connection to Shallan while she was 'inside' Ashertmarn. And of course the constant mention of "emotions" and "sensations", which is basically Odium's theme through the entire book. No, I'm pretty sure, that it was Odium acting through Ashertmarn.- 73 replies
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