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  1. On Sel, specifically near Elantris, the Dor sits in the cognitive realm. The Dor is a massive body of investiture left over from not one but two shards. And I have this WoB: So does that mean that on Sel, there’s a massive amount of time dilation caused by the enormous quantity of investiture outside the SR?
  2. If someone who didn’t already have any invested powers, such as Allomancy, were to have a large amount of innate investiture added to their Spiritweb (Awakeners don’t count by the way; their power doesn’t add to the actual Spiritweb, it sits primarily in the physical realm), would invested powers begin to develop, or would the extra investiture need to be deliberately "shaped" in order for powers to manifest?
  3. The King's Drop in the Thaylen Gemstone Reserve has been glowing brightly in a dark vault for 200 years. Uh... how? The explanation that it's a perfect gemstone and can hold Investiture indefinitely is all well and good, but energy in the form of light as bright as daylight is being emitted constantly from that gem. It hasn't diminished in that time presumably, and I doubt they lied about it. So where does that light actually come from, if it's not the Investiture emitting radiation in the form of light? Where does the actual light of Stormlight come from?
  4. Another theory here, so I was wondering if it would be possible for there to be a anti-version of investiture, shards, and Adonalsium. We see anti-light in RoW and its effect on normal light and invested beings, being capable of killing Heralds, Fused, and Radiant spren. This aligns with anti-matter in real life where, if it comes into contact with its opposite (like oxygen and anti-oxygen) it explodes in a massive explosion. This symmetry might suggest that there could be an ultimate foe in the form of some sort of anti-adonalsium which could be a reason that they need to bring the shards back together and reform adonalsium. What are your thoughts on this?
  5. So, I don't know if this has been thought of before, but I have had a theory for some time that we will eventually see more orders of the Knight Radiants-or at least sub-orders. Let me explain-we know that surgebinding is a result of Honor and Cultivation and that worlds with a invested shard have a magic system based at least partly off of the shard. Odium has now started investing himself more and more into Roshar and we've seen the effects in the Fused and voidbinding. Renarin, has bonded a spren corrupted by Odium and has manifested new variations (hence the sub-orders) on the original truthwatcher abilities. He is still a truthwatcher in that he accesses the same surges, he just manifests them in new and different ways. What are your guys's thoughts on this? Do you think that we could see sub-orders of the original Radiant orders?
  6. So as I understand it, the way awakening works is that you use breath to fill an object with investiture and give it extremely limited sentience (as investiture does), and then that object will act out whatever command you made it to do. But the investiture is the key here of course. The object is just the physical medium that gives Breath the ability to act on the world. So is that medium actually necessary? I don't think it is. We've seen that investiture can manifest in the physical realm as metals- shardblades and shardplates and ancient fabrials, atium, lerasium. So why not breath as well? I propose that you can command the breath directly to "manifest as metal", and it would do so in the form of Edglium, endowment's godmetal. Furthermore, I propose that this is how Azure's sword was made. "Manifest as metal and be as my blade". We know that originally, nightblood was an attempt to recreate a rosharan shardblade using Breath. This was done by taking a normal steel sword and loading it chock full of breath, and giving it a command. "Destroy Evil". But this isn't how shardblades are made. They're made by getting a spren to manifest in the physical realm as metal. And so, if you're trying to recreate one using Breath, then I would probably try getting breath to manifest as metal. If Azure's sword is a second attempt at this same experiment (which certainly isn't confirmed, but we at least know that the sword is "somewhat related" to nightblood). So what do you all think? Can you command breath directly, and manifest it as metal? What else interesting could you do with that? And what do you think of my theory on Azure's sword
  7. What do you think spren from different shards would be? Other than the three we know for certain have spren, the ones on Roshar.
  8. This isn't going to be a full-fledged theory, but rather some thoughts that I've been having for a while. I was looking up some details on Feruchemy for tabletop gaming purposes (I could find no conclusive answer as to whether it has to be snapped like Allomancy), and I stumbled upon this WOB that gave me an implication and reminded me of an idea I had. Here's the WOB: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/90/#e4620 The Implication The parts that got my attention were these: "Piercing someone's body with Invested metal can have weird effects all through the Cosmere" "ripping off a piece of a person's soul using an un-Invested spike to Invest it and create one is different" "For instance if you've got a spike that's Invested and you stick it into a Kandra on Scadrial it will still work as an Invested Hemalurgic spike" The implication is that any Invested spike can be used for Hemalurgic purposes, including such things as metalminds, Lashed metals, Forged metals or otherwise Invested metals that are inserted in the body. Can anybody point me to a WOB that categorically denies that you can use a metalmind as a spike? The Idea My other idea is far-fetched, though I'm not entirely certain whether it's more or less crazy than what I implied above. Here's my thought process: objects have minds. They have a Cognitive aspect, and they're aware. They know what they are, they remember what they were, and they can be Connected to people, places, other objects, and more. Objects must have a spiritweb, though it may be rudimentary. Hemalurgy works by altering a spiritweb. If you rip off a piece of a person's spiritweb and staple it to someone else, the latter person becomes a little more like the former person in some way, though the process may twist them into something unnatural. What if you took a piece of a person's spiritweb and stapled it into someTHING else? Say I steal a Coinshot's alomantic ability, take the bloody spike from his chest and stab it into a bracelet? Can I transfer the allomantic ability to the bracelet? Can I take the density of steel and splice it into a human's bones? Can I steal a person's strength and splice it into a Feruchemist's pewtermind? Can I steal a memory from a Feruchemist's coppermind and staple it into a person's mind (and would that memory decay over time)?
  9. I was rereading the first book of mistborn and came across something that piqued my interest. I don’t remember precisely what scene it was in, but Vin mentions skaa workers climbing the Luthadel city walls to scrape off the mist-grown lichen. The mists are literally pure investiture. Is it just me, or should there be something a bit different about lichen that lives on gaseous investiture? This might just be a little inconsequential detail, but it made me curious.
  10. On Roshar, there is a higher-than-average concentration of Investiture due to the Hightstorms. What if someone were to make a large, air-tight aluminum-lined room, big enough to have people comfortably live in, and then take a large number of lit Spheres inside, letting the Investiture leak out? Would the people inside the room receive benefits similar to someone with a large quantity of Bio-Chromatic Breaths if there was enough free-floating Investiture concentrated in the area they lived? Would animals that lived there for a few generations gain higher cognition, eventually becoming sapient? Would humans born there have a higher Innate Investiture than humans born without such a high concentration of Investiture? If so, would this extra innate Investiture stay with them if they left the aluminum chamber?
  11. Ok so what if it's really just the gods playing poker where they bet there power on the outcome of the world they govern and they nudge the humans along with power and other stuff like that. They're investing in the humans. Get it invest,investiture
  12. Reading Warbreaker and the amount of breath for each heightening, I noticed that the amount of breath followed some kind of exponential function. So I tried to find the math law that they follow I started by plotting the amount of breath versus the level (Figure 1) taking into account an error of 1% for each level. This is because it is written that the amount for each level is not exact, so I assume a value that increases as the level does. ↑Figure 1: BioChromatic Breath for each Heightening Then I tried different basic functions, but I found that it doesn’t follow those. Eventually I divided every amount by 50 (Figure 2) and by the level squared (Figure 3). ↑Figure 2: Figure 1 divided by 50 ↑Figure 3: Figure 2 divided by Level Squared With this i started to try again with this formula () and found values for A, B and C that approximated the curve. then i expanded the formula so the results approximated Figure 1, i got Eq. (1) Using OriginLab I plotted Figure 1, and fitted using Eq. (1). And i got Figure 4: ↑Figure 4: Figure 1 fitted using Eq. (1) The values for this formula are: Replacing the level we got this values: This aren’t very accurate, but they are very near, and may be the real values that are approximated in the books. Be aware that there is an unknown error to this values, they could be less or more Conclusion The most probable thing is that Brandon picked random values for each level, but it still was fun to try and find out this law. Replacing for an 11th heightening we get around 120000 breaths for it. If in the future there are more levels, and they follow this formula i would be very happy. Keep in mind they will most probably not follow this.
  13. On one hand, Sazed says that their power levels are essentially infinite. However, it's strongly implied that as the bearer of two Shards, he is more powerful than any other singular Shard with only one, and that the only reason that Odium did not take up Ambition and Honor after Splintering them was because it would change his Intent. If that's the case, though, Shards' powers are finite, since two times infinity is still infinity, and therefore you could Splinter a Shard by continually draining its Investiture. Think Lashing a rock up into the air so it floats, draining Stormlight but not actually doing anything but countering gravity.
  14. Does anyone have any theories or even just cool ideas on what the unit investiture will be measured with in the future of the cosmere? I’m thinking along the lines of: a breath has x ___’s of investiture on average.
  15. I had an idea. If you were to line an air tight enclosure with aluminum, maybe you could create a pocket that was essentially cut off from the rest of the Cosmere. You wouldn’t need to worry about Shardic influence so much, or about hostile investitures seeping in. Perhaps you could even trap certain types of investiture in with you, maybe even enough to fuel a self-sufficient ecosystem, provided there is enough investiture to be recycled and that the pocket is large enough. Certain forms of invested powers, like Allomancy, might not work so well though, as they would need to draw on investiture that likely wouldn't be accessible inside the pocket.
  16. One of the ways that you can increase your Connection to a Shard of Adonalsium is by taking certain actions that line up with that Shard’s Intent. For instance, we see in Mistborn: Secret History that Kelsier is very Connected to Ruin, despite him not even using Ruin’s magic system. This is because Kelsier is a very destructive person, preferring to destroy rather than preserve, and we can see this in his actions. However, Feruchemical Duralumin seems to work by allowing one to store their natural ability to form Connections. So, if one wanted to Connect to a particular Shard, it might be that all they’d need to do is to perform a few actions that line up with their Intent while tapping a large dose of Feruchemical Duralumin. On the flip side, someone might be able to prevent themselves from becoming too Connected to a Shard by deliberately storing Feruchemical Duralumin while performing actions that line up with their Intent. For example, if Kelsier were to get his hands on an Unsealed Feruchemical Duralumin mind, he could store his ability to form Connections while fighting and killing to prevent his Connection to Ruin from gaining strength, and when he performed acts that lined up with Preservation’s Intent, he could tap that stored Connection. Because the strength of a magic user is at least partially determined by the strength of the Connection between that person and the Shard that their magic comes from, I think that this method might be able to be used to strengthen one’s previously existing powers, though I’m not sure they would be able to form new powers from scratch. I think that the reason we don’t see Mistborn, Mistings, or Hemalurgists increase their power over time is because they simply don’t have the natural ability to create Connections strong enough to make an increase of power. Radiants can increase the strength of their powers though, and that leads me to believe that the reason they can do this is because their Spren have highly invested spiritwebs they would be able to increase their power over time; a “large”, highly invested spiritual aspect allows for greater Connections to be made naturally. To help this theory, we see in this WoB that if Kelsier, now a highly expanded Cognitive Shadow, went to Roshar, he could grant someone powers by bonding to them.
  17. If someone from Scadrial were to take an aluminum syringe and inject the liquid from Harmony’s Perpendicularity into their body, would they get Allomantic powers? Would it do nothing for them if they didn’t already have powers to use the investiture?
  18. I have been wondering on the different forms of Physical Investiture, and the way they work. I am wondering what theories others have, or if I missed some vital WoB. Basically, we know that Investiture can take on Physical, Liquid, and Gaseous forms. And we know that these are not based upon temperature, but things such as density and initial conditions. But we know that God Metals can melt, as by WoB, and by the presence of God Metal Alloys. But I am wondering, would a melted God Metal have the same properties as the Investiture when it takes on liquid as its initial form. Same with if you somehow vaporize a God Metal. Like, would vaporized Shardblade act the same as normal Stormlight? Or would it have different properties due to different initial forms and conditions. I am wondering on others theories, and if they can share them here, and if they can sometime ask it of Brandon next signing or stream or something.
  19. Could you use a Forgery to remove a magic user’s ability to access investiture? I could see this happening for Allomancy or Feruchemy, at least, as they aren’t particularly invested while they are neither burning or tapping. Any kind of magic that involved bonds, such as Surgebinding or the Aviar, would probably not work well though. Awakening wouldn’t likely work well either, since the investiture is already there, and would provide significant resistance.
  20. What is the difference between holding investiture in the physical realm and having it in you spiritweb? Would there be much of a difference if you could hold Bio-Chromatic Breaths in your spiritweb rather than in the physical realm, aside from them becoming stealable via Hemalurgy? Would your descendants be affected if this were the case? Would you start to develop invested powers rather than just gaining the heightenings?
  21. A small theory that I think got some solid support with RoW. So we saw in Rhythm of War that the Allomantic/Feruchemical/Hemalurgic metals have functions outside of the Metallic Arts and are one of three key components in fabrials alongside spren & gemstones. It makes sense, metal acts as a key for Allomancers to access Preservation's Investiture. Without Allomancy in your Spiritweb, you can't access that Investiture but you should still be able to use the metal to filter other Investiture that you do have access to. That is kind of similar to how the Polestones themselves function, why they can hold Lights Their small differences in chemical structure & colour is all that is needed for Investiture to distinguish them. An element's atomic structure absorbs and reflects different wavelengths of light (or Light), the light can be used to identify those atoms & molecules. A metal's structure is used as a filter for Investiture, the same probably goes for a gemstone. Colour is more important magically for gemstones but this is what the colour of an object means in physics & chemistry, their molecular structure would be a bit different. A metal acts as a filter and lets Investiture through and a gem both filters it (what gem you use does matter for Soulcasters and Artifabrians) and holds it. So, gemstones should, like metals, work across the Cosmere, and be able to hold other types of Investiture than just the Rosharan Lights. Idea came from here: Edit: we have confirmation that the Mists can be trapped in gemstones Edit: in the Brandon spoiler livestream at 33:20, Brandon confirms that Autonomy's Investiture can be stored in the Polestones but he isn't sure if that is something that could happen naturally (but it could definitely capture the Dor) and even if it does, it would be very ineffective, maybe it would store very little bit of charge that would only be perceptible to someone with the right instruments and it would soon dissipate. I've noted previously in discussions that White Sand requires surprisingly little Investiture to recharge. I think the oldest instance of this theory is here: While it takes four hours for black sand to recharge back to white sand on Taldain's Dayside, just proximity to Shallan's Lightweaving was enough to charge Hoid's white sand in OB, this happened when Kal, Shallan, Adolin and Elhokar went to Kholinar. In the very same section and following section that took place in Shadesmar, it is noted that Shallan's Lightweaving used far less Stormlight than Kaladin's Lashings. Keep this in mind. I do have an idea on why White Sand could apparently recharge from Taldain's sunlight or apparently even from very far from its starlight as per a prev WoB, but would be difficult to store in a gemstone. In RoW, we see Navani use a prism to separate the light emitted by Towerlight back into the bands of Stormlight and Lifelight, she notes that she didn't separate the Lights or the Investiture, just the "Investiture radiation". I think that's what Taldain's sun outputs: not gaseous Investiture but Investiture radiation. And that's why it outputs so little Investiture that it takes black sand exposure to direct sunlight for four hours in order to recharge and turn white again but Stormlight, even sheer proximity to a Lightweaving, which in itself is noted to use much less Stormlight compared to Surge of Gravitation.
  22. In Row, we’ve seen that investiture’s ‘rhythm’ can be changed by isolating it from it’s original source, then exposing it to another rhythm with a different intent. We’ve also seen that an individual can have a unique rhythm (i.e. Raboniel). If someone could somehow gain access to the Rhythms, then figure out how to create a unique rhythm of their own, with it’s own Intent, could they reprogram the Intent of a piece investiture? If this could be accomplished, I can see three possible benefits: 1. You wouldn’t have an enhanced Connection to the investiture’s original Shard as would otherwise have, since the new Intent of the investiture you’re using is not the same as that Shard’s Intent. This would probably make it harder for a Shard to manipulate or detect you directly. 2. It would be very, very difficult to weaponize anti-investiture against you since the Intent of the investiture you’re using is supposed to be unique. 3. You would most likely not be bound to any world in particular as most highly invested entities are, as your investiture does not have a Connection to any world or Shard. In addition, if you use this new investiture, and then it returns to the spiritual realm, would it then start to accumulate, possibly (though not likely, considering the amount that you’d need) create a new magic system, similar to Patji on First of the Sun? So, does this all sound possible, or am I assuming too much here?
  23. So, this is the first time I've actually asked a question here since signing up, so if I accidentally break some kind of rule, please let me know. Hemalurgy seems to always warp the recipient of an invested spike, particularly with stolen human attributes. Since Identity is something that can be stolen via hemalurgy, I was just wondering if you were granted someone else's Identity, would your physical body change to appear more like them?
  24. If an individual can obtain a piece of investiture that stays with them rather than being converted to kinetic investiture or leaking out, they gain certain benefits. We can see these benefits with those who hold a number of bio-chromatic breaths or a Dawnshard, but most other magic systems don’t allow the investiture to stay with the practitioner, which prevents them from gaining heightenings. However, a hemalurgic nicrocil spike can steal general investiture, granting it to someone. My question is if someone took, for example, stormlight held by a surgebinder, would this investiture leak out as it normally would, or, since the spike itself is holding it, would it stick to the person enough to grant them the heighteinings? Could a person even do this, since hemalurgy primarily steals from the spiritual realm? If this is the case, what kinds of investiture (other than Divine Breaths) would be viable for a nicrocil spike?
  25. Aviar seem to draw a small amount of investiture directly from the spiritual realm to fuel their powers, without needing to use a catalyst, like how Allomancers need to. If someone could Hemalurgically take an aviar power, could they use this to get ‘free’ fuel for any other manifestations of investiture they might have, such as Surgebinding or Allomancy?
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