Search the Community

This a little would you rather. Seeing Twinborn and Fullborn made me wonder about the in between area: a Feruchemist with one Misting ability or a Mistborn with one Ferring ability. Even if they can’t be naturally born, lerasium would probably work on the right subjects and Hemalurgic definitely would. Which made me curious : what could you do with the full lineup and a metal to Compound? So I ask you, which would you rather be and why? Which metal would you Compound? For the purposes of this question, no Hemalurgic spikes will be used: just Lerasium on a natural Ferring/Feruchemist but at the lower power level.

As we all know, alloys are pretty busted in the Metallic Arts. It has such favorites as Steel and Pewter. But since the pure metals don’t see as much love, I wanted to challenge you guys. If you had to be a Metalborn of pure metals, which would you choose and why?

There's always another secret.. Ok, so TLM shows that Kel is lying to someone regarding him still having allomancy. Either the ghostbloods or Harmony: Ghostbloods he said he couldn't use allomancy to get back in time to help. Harmony he thought and talked about no longer having allomancy. It makes sense it would be harder to con a god associated to the magic system which makes me think it's worth considering. If anyone could it would be Kel. TLM shows its possible to: Hide things from a Shard, in this instance another Shard or God metal was involved. At the least it shows its possible, there could be other means? Use investiture from another Shard to fuel a different magic system. Makes me wonder if using unkeyed Dor to fuel allomancy would hide its use from Harmony? Rewrite past.. what if Kel used a soulstamp to rewrite his past to not being capable of allomancy. Yes, I understand there's timeframes and such involved but we don't know when he knew about this and when he lost or gained allomancy. There's a lot of information missing, but I'm thinking TLM gives us pieces of the puzzle to maybe figure it out.? Would a soulstamp be hidden from Harmony? A very clever one? If so, it would allow Kel to "lie" to Harmony. Not just lie, but also deceive via his thoughts. And as we know, Harmony can hear thoughts via Preservations power which I'm guessing Kel knows about. I could be wrong and I agree it's the less likely theory but.. that's what's making me think I'm onto something, Mr S throwing me curve balls all the time. So what do you think, is it possible for Kel to decieve Harmony in this way? Or is Harmony aware and playing his own game maybe? Is this another secret?

So good non compounding twinborn combos. We have crashers ofc. But some others are : A-chromium and F-steel, to leech someone at superspeed. A-Electrum and F- zinc , to see your future shadows and to have the mental speed to analyse your future using it. Esp useful in a fight A-pewter and F-gold , become a Pewter savant without killing yourself , as well as combat Pewter drag and store more health quickly. A-pewter and F-steel, to beat someone up at superspeed and store more speed quickly. A-cadmium and F-chromium , to go to the future and be lucky enough to live as an immortal in a post mortality, post scarcity civilization Let me what others you can think of

I was thinking about Feruchemical Aliminum, trying to think of how it could ever be made useful in any Twinborn. The only use I had ever thought of in the past was combining with pewter and trying to “heal” into someone else. But then, I thought of one other crazy idea. I want you guys to look at my theory and critique it. To start, it requires two premises. Premise 1: Many Allomantic metals emanate effects from the Spiritual center of self This one shouldn’t be too difficult. From the Alloy of Law Ars Arcanum, we know that this is why steel and iron lines go to the chest. However, I believe it has greater applications. Questioner So, if we switch to Scadrial, and I had lined the inside of my hat with aluminum, I'm protecting myself from emotional Allomancy. What if I was able to use emotional Allomancy? Would that block me? Brandon Sanderson So, it's going to interfere a little bit. But the issue with that is, a lot of Allomancy is coming from center and going to head. So, you're probably still gonna be okay with the helmet... So, I'm gonna say, you don't want a lot of aluminum around you, but you could probably still make it work. Oathbringer release party (Nov. 13, 2017) Soothing and Rioting come from the chest just like the lines. I’m also assuming the same rule applies for copper clouds and the time bubble metals. This will be relevant later Premise 2: In the absence of Identity, cognitive behavior (thinking) can change the location of this center of self This one is where I stretch. We know that cognitive perception does affect spiritual expression, like how you can’t heal an injury you see as part of yourself. My theory has always been that if you had little to no Identity, you could basically replace your Spiritual ideal with whatever you imagined. Hence, a short man who burned Pewter with no Identity could imagine himself to be tall and he would heal accordingly. If we take Premise 2 a step further, it is possible that one could replace their center of self with another place they can see or maybe even just remeber perfectly. Already, this could work for some Twinborn. Coinshots or Lurchers could suddenly move metals in totally different directions. Cadmium Twinborn could summon their time bubbles over someone else. But the really fun applications are for Fullborn or crazy Hemalurgists. Compounding copper could carry Allomantic effects to a place you remember. The Lord Ruler could’ve suddenly dropped a burst of super Soothing without ever leaving the castle, as long as he had copper minds with his targets. You might even be able to go a step farther and trick the Spiritual Realm into letting you see targets. Imagine burning malatium and dropping a slow bubble on your enemy when they were getting a morning coffee. Probably works better for time metals, but you could argue the others do too. Alternatively, you could use duralumin-Atium and try to work across location. Mail your friends a coppercloud overseas. The final thing I should clarify is Connection. It may be that Connection handles your plhysical location instead. In that case, Fullborn can simply blank their connection via F-Duralumin: it only really hurts Twinborn. But I also didn’t mention it because I saw Connection as a broad strokes brush. It would remember which street you’re on but not your exact coordinates. In other words, the hack works in your line of sight. Personally, I’d rather let the Twinborn have it for artistic reasons, unless I’m missing some other contradiction Anyway, that’s my theory. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

I decided to post this for fun. Don't know if this was already done but if not then now it has.

I’m currently re-reading mistborn for the second time and I was wondering what’s up with the Lord ruler like sometimes he makes smart decisions like the vaults or how he kept Atium from ruin but then other times he makes really bad and dumb decisions like the final empire in general it literally says it in that book that Ellen has that it should be better than it is and for a another example he made it so the skaa what have a bigger population than the nobles which in my opinion basically made it inevitable that they would rise up and actually win you could make the excuse that ruin was influencing him and I feel like that does make sense for later in his rule but I also feel like that doesn’t excuse the bad decisions he made earlier in his rule idk does this make sense to you guys?

I'd like everyone to respond to this with what one allomantic and one feruchemic power they would take if they could choose and why? I just wanna see what everyone's thoughts are on the matter since there's 16 powers for each (no God Metals) and thus 256 possible Twinborn combinations. Now, I know this is a broad question so I'm actually breaking it down even further. What set of Twinborn powers would you choose for combat purposes, and what set would you choose for normal everyday life? Personally, I think A-Pewter and F-Gold are a nigh perfect combat pair, since you can get more Health stored up than a normal Bloodmaker (Not as much as a Gold Compounder though, ofc), but also have the added physical combat capabilities of being a Pewterarm. It would also make becoming an A-Pewter Savant far safer. As for normal everyday life, I think either F-Zinc or F-Bronze personally along with either A-Brass or A-Bendalloy. Probably F-Zinc and A-Brass. Just would make moving through normal life so much easier.

Can someone help me understand what is going on with silver on Lumar and Threnody? Why is silver allomantically inert on Scadrial when it appears to extinguish investiture on other planets of the cosmere? Aluminum acts that way in Allomancy but on worlds where silver has an effect, aluminum is an insulator and a concealer. On these worlds, aluminum is inert with regard to investiture, but it doesn’t eradicate it (in the way that silver does). Another interesting fact I noted was that both Lumar and Threnody are not actively invested by a shard. Not sure that is relevant, but it could be. So, what is up with silver?

Does anyone know if the rule of 16% of the Scadrian population being allomancers is still in effect in the later eras?

Aluminum Feruchemy is particularly interesting to me since identity stores all of a persons attributes, connections, and investiture. If utilized like soothing or rioting it could potentially be used to enhance desired attributes, connections, and investiture of the feruchemist. I also speculate that an AA twin might be able to absorb identity from others since all that investiture needs to go somewhere when they burn it, and based on how it works feruchemically I wonder if it just doesn't store the identities of the metals out of reach when burned, but perhaps not for a twin. Hemalugically Aluminum blanks investiture which could be related Identity as well. So an AA twin might also act sumwhat like Peter or Silar in Heros, storing or copying parts of identity from others into their own Identity. We see something like this produced with Forgery. They could also potentially use full blown hemalurgy without the debilitating effects through mix and matching parts of Identity. Even the use of forgery on an AA twin could potentially be a means of adding additional types of investiture permanently. Yes I know this is just speculation, but what do you think?

A savant receives more Investiture/second when burning a metal, but do they burn through their metal faster? I understand a defining feature of Allomantic savants is that they're flaring all the time, but I'm talking outside of that. Did the Lord Ruler (pretty sure he's the strongest savant we've ever seen), who had duralumin-level Soothing normally, burn through his brass just as fast as a Mistborn burning duralumin?

I'm super interested in Feruchemical copper and copper compounding. Can a copper feruchemist store muscle memory? we know compounding copper does "interesting things", could this be related to the Lord Ruler's perfect memory? If you combine both these ideas, could a copper compounder learn things extremely fast as the Investiture fuels the Storage function of the brain? For example, a copper compounder would only need a couple hours of practice to perfectly learn a sword stance and replicate it. Perfect aim, perfect form, so many possibilities.

So I have been thinking what Lerasium's alloy would be and it seems to me that if lerasium grants people allomancy, then it's alloy would take it away. For example, if a mistborn(or a misting) burned lerasium's alloy, then the mistborn would lose his or her allomantic abilities. The metal would fit as an alloy of lerasium and aluminum, as aluminum has such a negative effect on investiture. The metal could be used as a wepon against allomancers. Sorry if this has already been discussed or there already is a WoB for this.

Greetings. My name is Breeze. I would write more, but that is too much work. Suffice it to say that I am here to make you do all the work for me.

I am not a scientist, I probably never will be. So could someone smarter than me clarify this WOB for me? What exactly are the 'problems' with a moving speedbubble? Are they lethally dangerous and could there be a way around them? Because if you could move with a Speedbubble around you, it'd be almost like if you were tapping F-Steel to other people. Bullet-time as it were. Then if you got a Twinborn with A-Bendalloy and F-Steel you'd get something really crazy.

I recall a particular WOB (Which I can't bloody find on the Arcanum) that compared Savantism to the Nahel Bond and called Savantism 'Uncontrolled'. So I'm wondering if it were plausible that there would be a way to 'Control' Allomantic Savantism, gaining more of the benefits with less of the extreme downsides. Like controlling the extreme tin-savantism so that your tin-senses would be greatly enhanced while leaving your regular the same? Basically what I'm asking is would it be possible to cheat Savantism.

Could you go so far into savanting with Allomancy that it kills you? Like what if Spook decided to constantly Flare tin years earlier? Would the extreme Savanting eventually kill him or would it just become so extreme that his abilities would be effectively unusable? I ask this because becoming a Savant involves your soul being saturated in Investiture for long periods of time which causes 'cracks' in your Spiritweb, could these cracks grow so much that they kill you or is there a kind of limit on Savantism.

I know nightblood is extremely hard to be pushed, but because it is sentient is it possible to push or pull nightbloods emotions?

What if Reverse Compounding involves using the Investiture from filling metalminds? For example, permanently losing your sense of smell, touch, and taste to create a constant stream of Investiture which could power Allomancy. Not really permanent, but it's a trade-off in line with Feruchemy's philosophy. I don't know how the Invesiture would be repurposed, however. Maybe a special fabrial or modified metalmind could do it? Aluminum has Identity-modifying properties and can do weird things with fabrials, so it's a possibility.

I was thinking about it, and you know how some surgebinders seem to get a little burst of stormlight when they swear an ideal? I wonder if something similar, if more low-key, doesn't happen in the process of Preservation/Harmony investing an allomancer when they Snap, producing a weak manifestation of their allomantic power. If so, that would help explain a few fuzzy points in the text; how mistings of highly toxic metals like Cadmium are identified, and how Kelsier managed to escape the Pits after Snapping (since the Pits were damaged by allomancy, it wouldn't make any sense for the Lord Ruler to have allomancers with metal vials acting as guards). It's hard to say for sure though, since we've never actually seen anyone snap yet.

If someone were to burn allomantic copper, would they have some added protection from being Soulcast (aside from simply holding more investiture) since their cognitive aspect would be less mutable to outside influences? As a side note, would someone who’s soul was pierced by a Hemalurgic spike be extra susceptible to being Soulcast?

What kind of abilities would a person get from being able to Compound aluminum, the sort-of anti-magic metal of Scadrial?

So Allomantic Iron allows a Metalborn to 'Pull' metals. So what if a Lurcher (or Mistborn) wore metal boots and pulled on them, would they be lifted up? Would this be a more effective, though more tricky, form of flight through Allomancy than using Allomantic Steel?