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  1. I'm 38 now and read WoK when that first came out. But I read LoTR at age 7-8 ish I think. 3rd grade whatever that was. Took me almost the whole 9 month school year to read those 3 books back then. Got started on WoT back in 1990, but at least I waited until book 2 was out (only in hardcover) so there are some people who had a longer wait for those books to publish than me. By 11 months or so. Devoured all the readable, and most of the non readable fantasy since then too. SA may be slightly more "adult" than Harry Potter, but it's still very straight forward and easy to read. It's certainly not The Prince of Nothing level stuff with Bakkar's heavy prose, dense concepts, and philosophical meanderings. My own 12 year old daughter asked to read daddy's favorite books and I told her she can read Stormlight Archive and Kingkiller Chronicles if she wanted but I didn't think she was ready for A Song of Ice and Fire, and it would be years yet before I gave her The Malazan Books of the Fallen.
  2. I've been stuck on the Aimians themselves, soulcasters being from Aimia, and the long term effects they have on humans. Plus the persistent rumor that the "cure" of those side effects is on Aimia. Or perhaps with Aimians? I'm sure there's interesting stuff going on there, I just can't put the pieces together yet. Stone/rock soulcasters turn people into stone. Pieces of those people may fall off/out. Not much difference between stone and some snail shells, so I imagine the same applies to cremlings. Maybe Dysian Aimians figured out how to plug/patch their holes with cremlings. Or are at least the evolution far down the line of somebody who figured that out. Smoke soulcasters on the other hand turn the humans into smoke. Smoke being one of the most malleable substances, it's not hard to imagine somebody whose body is malleable enough to create tattoos on the skin of writing, and apparently to alter their internal organs could somehow be an evolution of that. Axies at least was said to have crystalline/gemlike eyes and fingernails. I believe the stobbe soulcasters from WoR also had that same feature? And then there is shadows. People throw shadows towards light instead of away from it in Shadesmar. But I believe we've also seen both Jasnah and Shallan throw the same shadows when they were soulcasting? I'll have to reread all the scenes with people using fabrial soulcaddters instead of surgebindings, but were their shadows mentioned? Axies definitely casts his shadow towards light instead of away from it. I thought the Dysian Aimians we had seen did too, but apparently not all the time? There was no mention of the cook or the old man in the park having weird shadows. My feeling is the secret of Aimia has something to do with normal humans somehow becoming the Aimians we see today. Probably through manipulation of the spiritual realm in some way, shape, or form. Possibly soulcasting fabrials were a step along that process. Also possible that THOSE were the surges that ruined their original planet.
  3. The one thing about Jasnah that bothered me was her calling Kaladin "Bridgeboy". It's fine for Adolin to o it, or even any of the others that were there. But Jasnah not only never saw Kaladin as a Bridgemen, but never saw the bridge men in general. Literally by the point in time that Jasnah meets him, he has personslly saved Dalinar, Elkohar, and Adolin (her family) all at least one a piece, plus saved Shallan in the Chasms although the full story of that may not have been known, he fought off and then beat the Assasin in White, recovered an Honor Blade, re-founded a Knights Radiant order and had dozens of squires, was the bodyguard to the king and was invited to all of their elite councils when he wasn't the single person out running missions for the people trapped in Uruthiru. For her to resort to calling him "Bridgeboy" and meaning it as an insult just felt completely out of character for her as to be almost jarring to me.
  4. I am infatuated with Rysn and especially her little Chiri-Chiri. Can't wait for her story to be more fleshed out. Was cool that her part ended on the cliffhanger of Chiri-Chiri being noticeably larger after "eating" that much Stormlight and Voidlight. Does she attract a spren and turn into KR? Does she somehow bond one of the greatshell spren from her larkin or bond it directly? Does that bond allow her to use stormlight to heal her broken back? Does she stay crippled but get to ride a giant flying greatshell? Also Kaladin has claimed the skies, and he can compete or beat any of the fused singlehandedly, even before he gets his plate. But nobody is claiming the skies away from a flying chasmfiend that eats stormlight and may or may not have a KR riding on its back. Will be very interested to see how that turns out.
  5. I think a lot of what we've seen so far has been filtered through those eyes, so that brings those names to the forefront. We never even met T's radiant until she met the Kholins. There is also the fact that a lot of the spren politics seem to be involved and the spren societies chose who would be bonded. It kind of makes sense for them to pick the son of the king of the ost, powerful nation or the son of the kings brother who kind of usurped leadership. As individuals Jasnah seems to be known as the foremost researcher/scholar/smart person on the planet. Gavilar was self made king of the most powerful nation, and by all accounts an exceptional individual. We recently found out that The Stormfather was under certain instructions on who to pick as Bondsmith. Dalinar checks all the same boxes his brother did once he came to power. Pluus I do think we had a in book quote or a WOB or something that it does tend to run in families or something.
  6. I just don't see gemhearts in the listeners as being even slightly possible. First of all, gems are actual money on roshar. That would mean they have slaughtered tens of thousands and literally decimated the population of listeners without ever finding out that "Hey! Every one we kill has money inside." Not to mention that Listeners are physically exactly the same as Parshmen, the slaves that everyone across the planet owns in such huge numbers that they think their economy will literally collapse without them. Which have been slaves for generations to the point people don't even believe they could possibly be anything else. Even if you subscribe to that theory that Alethi are so dumb and bloodthirsty that they don't know there are differences between boys and girls, you'd still think that one or two noticed dollar bills falling out of the Parshendi they just cut in half. Even if only by accident. Plus parshmen are world wide, and not everyone is Alethi.
  7. Sometimes I don't know if I'm reading the same books as everyone else? Where do you get the listener gemheart thing from?
  8. The handful of people Amaram killed literally pale in comparison to the number killed by Taravangion. Both did it because they thought it was the only/best way to save the world. Both have kept it a big secret, their biggest darkest secret. But Amaram killed a handful and even spared the life of a man he probably shouldn't have out of sheer respect for him and what he did. T however hasn't spared anyone. He has killed thousands of people, maybe tens of thousands. And people here love him. Can't wait to get more info on him and more chapters with him. Can't wait for him to be a bondsmith and one of the leaders of the whole world. I get it. I just think its interesting.
  9. I just don't see why so many people consider Amaram despicable. Maybe I have to reread WoK, but I was under the impression that he was actually going to let Kaladin have the shards. Kaladin the great warrior who slayed a full shardbearers. Then Kal gave them away to some untrained dark eyed spearman. Meanwhile Amaram was probanly fully trained in the use of both Plate and Blade, and he was already an influential brightlords. Plus as a member of one of the infamous secret societies, he already had knowledge beyond even what we currently know. I honestly think him taking the shards was better for Alethi and probably all of Roshar in general than letting some spearman have them unearned. Not over Kaladin if he had chosen to accept them however. The only way to make it work was to kill a few dark eyes, but he did let Kaladin live, so that's something. Besides, every one else all says he always seemed too good to be true. But nobody else ever found a single thing wrong with him. Dalinar considers himself a good judge of chssracter he tells Kal, which is why he trusts Kaladin so much. And even heccsats Amaram was one of the bedt men he dver knew. He did one distasteful thing, for the greater good. It juddt happens to be magnified because he did it "onscreen" to a beloved main character. I don't considrrr him beyond redemption. With what we currently know.
  10. I have an equally crazy theory. Maybe Earth's moon is actually Adonalsium. AND it is/was made out of bananas peeled and piled on top of each other. I know it doesn't make any sense, and literally everything we've ever read says this can't be the case, but wouldn't it be a huge shock if it was true. Now I'm not necessarily saying it is true, but i kind of want it to be.
  11. Couple things The Unmade - shadows of the enemy's soul. It doesn't look like mind to me. The Traitor has got to be Amaram, right? Only one we have seen do anything for ambition, and pretty sure he still has a bigger part to play. Moash was my first thought, and he was certainly ambitious grabbing the blade and plate. But I feel like if he was broken it was for vengeance. King Taravangian was certainly ambitious, but not sure he was broken by it, and I don't feel like he would be looking for freedom. Actually on second (fifth) thought Eshonai fits really well too, maybe better than Amaran. Broken by her sisters ambition and looking for freedom from Odium. Her sister and the rest of Stormform would consider her a traitor if she left, while Thude and probably her own conscious considers her currently a traitor to her own ideals. The Spy fits Shallan, but doesn't feel right. Cruelty by her mother to try and kill her, and cruelty by her father the rest of her childhood. While true, it just feels wrong. Seeks completion? Her fifth ideal to become a full KR? Completion of her understanding of Uruthiru? I just don't know. Maybe Rlain works better as a spy, but what kind of completion would he be seeking?
  12. I hated the amount in WoR. Mostly I was ok with it in WoK. But i read the dedcription for Elantris and decided i wasnt interested, read the first 2 1/2 Mistborn books and HATED them. Couldn't even force myself to finish the series. Enjoyed Warbreaker as a whole, but hated lots of its parts. And I wish I had never read BS's contribution to WoT I thought it was an absolute abomination. So it's really a surprise to me (and probably everyone else) that I currently have Stormlight Archive in my top 3 series. I absolutely love S.A.. I just feel like Cosmere stuff detracts from it.
  13. “Still alive,” he said to Lift. “But bleeding and unconscious.” He kicked his sphere away. “She is too new to know how to feed on Stormlight in this state. You I’ll have to impale and wait until you are truly dead. This one though, she can just bleed out. It’s happening already.” This is the actual quote after he (Darkness) has stabbed Stump. He flat out says Stump is too new to unconsciously use Stormlight, but that the only way to kill Lift is going to be to stake her down and wait until she runs out of Stormlight. He doesn't even consider that his honorblade severing the spine will kill her outright, or that if He knocks her out first, it just hits her with a death blow of some sort. He flat out says the only way to kill her is to impale and wait.
  14. I'm not sure that's true. In Edgedancer when Nalen/Darkness comes for Lift at Stumps orphanage he says something along the lines of; 'She's not that far along yet, she can't use Stormlight to heal. I can just kill her. You (Lift) I'll have to stake you down with my blade until all the Stormlight drains out.' *Note this is not a direct quote I'm too lazy for that. I'm pretty sure once you say at least the first or second oath like Lift had at that point, Stormlight will protect you from being killed, or at least heal you from even things like a shardblade (honorblade) through the heart. Not sure about things like head chopped off, that's usually the ultimate nullifier in Fantasy. On plate vs healing, I see that as like Wolverine vs Superman. A bullet to the face isn't going to kill either. But it doesn't bother Superman at all. While Wolverine feels the pain of getting shot in the head, and then heals from it. I don't think the plate is specifically intended to be better than just healing the wounds in all situations, but I can certainly see it being more useful in some situations. Windrunners and Skybreakers can fly, but the other 8 orders can't. If they're fighting in a Highstorm and/or Everstorm I'm sure the extra weight helps them out, as would protection from windblown sand, debris, and raindrops rather than having to heal from each individual impact. Plus just not having to deal with the pain of all those individual impacts.
  15. Yeah, that's the end of that theory. Like I said in the other thread where I brought it up, I'm not a very spatial thinker I can never keep the map in my head when reading any fantasy books.