Quazar87

For some reason, I haven't seen this pop up yet. It seems obvious. With Sadeas' death, I think Amaram rises to fill his place as highprince. He was already the second most powerful lighteyes in his realm, and Sadeas mentions having an understanding with him. I think he is Sadeas' heir. That will certainly put a damper on any attempt to prosecute Amaram for killing Kaladin's men and stealing his Shards.

Man, there are a lot of lunatics on this board. Obviously Adolin did the right thing. Sadeas was an enemy who foolishly put himself in a vulnerable position, so Adolin capitalized. Good show. He even had the presence of mind to minimize the evidence. Compare this to Sadeas' betrayal. He pretended to friendship and loyalty to his old ally, only to stab him in the back. He got thousands of men killed and still managed to fail to finish Dalinar.

Nalan's true name is obviously Nale. Szeth says he is called that in the East and the Vorin church wouldn't invent an asymmetry like that.

Or he decided to stop banging his wife once he had a male heir. Maybe he was unfaithful... with dudes. I'm just saying that it's a possibility.

Drehy the bridgeman is gay, according to WoB. It's just never come up in the story because it hasn't been important. Navani liked Gavilar. If she knew he was intent on bringing back the Voidbringers, then she wouldn't say that. It has to have been something not horrible but also something that isolated them from each other. I don't know; I still think it's more likely than her knowing about his Sons of Honor activity.

Hoid's penpal. Hoid calls him an old reptile, and Brandon confirmed that he was a dragon from Dragonsteel.

The old songs name damnation Braize, and their Heralds are non-Rosharan, so yeah. I like this find.

This is my reading of why Navani liked, but didn't love, Gavilar. From what we've seen he was a good hearted man determined to forge the Alethi into a kingdom that would resist the desolation. But he "wasn't who people thought he was". Maybe Navani knew more of the Sons of Honor than she has let on, but I have a hunch that Gavilar wasn't straight. He had a very close relationship with the conspicuously single Amaram.

This is a good point. The Words of Radiance epigraphs are intentionally strange in their phrasing, to give the feeling of being archaic I suppose.

He knew,but couldn't use it. This was the same reason that TLR didn't identify duralumin mistings; he didn't want to give Ruin people to spike.

I think it's pretty clear that she was back because he was back to following his oaths. He decided to protect Elhokar when he couldn't protect himself. He decided to put means over ends, aka journey before destination. Syl was only as dead as Kaladin's oaths. His oaths returned before he spoke the third Ideal.

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I was under the impression that the Ghostbloods and the followers of the Diagram are the same organization, but Gavikar's words as he dies do put a damper on that. Hmmm...

The point of this thread is that fabrials use enslaved spren, or at least are created using enslaved spren, and how that relates to the nature of Shardplate. EDIT: Also that thread is in the main Stormlight forum and thus should be thoroughly spoiler tagged. This forum allows us to ignore that.

According to Hoid in the Ars Arcanum: "I am more and more convinced that the creation of these devices [fabrials] requires forced enslavement of transformative cognitive entities, known as “spren” to the local communities." Now we know that touching Shardplate does not cause the Nahel bonded to hear screaming, so they aren't dead spren. We also know that the ancients, at least the Radiants, had fabrials of some kind. The Oathgates operate like fabrials and Nale used the KR Regrowth fabrial on Szeth. Shardplate has gemstones in it that must be "fed" stormlight to repair it. They seem to operate the same way. But would spren, particularly honorspren, be ok with imprisoning their compatriots? Do you guys think there is a major difference between the "fabrials" of old and the modern fabrials? Something to ponder.