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  1. spook

    First and foremost, sorry it has taken me a so long to get back to this. I have been busy in my personal life and haven't had time to hang out on forums. So, my apologies. Ok, back to business. I'm going to copy the original post and expand upon it. First and foremost Eastern Street Slang is meant to be confusing. It is quite literally meant to be as ridiculous as possible while still being understandable. To that end changing the rules to meet your needs is acceptable, so long as there is context to understand your idea. For more hard rules here are a few: Tense is usually set in the beginning of the sentence or statement. "Ising of", "Wasing of", "Doing of", is "I am", "I was", "I will be". Subject is usually contextually set, but can be set at the beginning along with tense. For example of "Being of cold" would become "I am cold" Alternatively you could phrase that as "Ising of cold of being" An example of setting tense at the beginning rather than the English style of setting tense throughout you might have "Wasing of cold of being at darkness" That last statement translates to "I was cold at night". I switched night to darkness to help create more chaos, but contextually you should be able to guess. @MountainKing linking to the High Imperial section does a great job of explaining the rules. So I'll mostly just post examples of ways to phrase things. Up above you said : I'd phrase it more like "Wasing of wanting of liking of as speaking Spook" So to break this down: Setting the tense comes first. I did this with "Wasing" Adjectives come next, but we didn't have any. Verbs are next and should always end in -ing unless it ruins the meaning of the word. Nouns come after verbs. Sentences being short rather than long is important. The longer the sentence, the easier it is to understand. I debated on leaving the "of liking" in there as it adds a bit of clarity. But when examining the sentence as a whole I figured "of wanting of liking of" sounded more confusing to an outside person trying to understand the meaning. The context of both parties is important in Eastern Street Slang. In this case I assume that you all will know when I say "speaking Spook" you know I'm talking about speaking ESS, but to try and confuse outsiders I'm phrasing more specifically. So, as this post goes if anyone wants to put sentences or phrases in I can translate them to Eastern Street Slang/ High Imperial, and give explanations about why I did what I did, or if anyone wants to write in ESS I'll look it over and give suggestions. Remember though, there isn't any real way to speak ESS wrong so much as speaking it better. You can change rules to suit your needs. The whole language is a challenge to be as confusing as possible while being able to communicate with those who also use it.
  2. I swear I just want to help with this question and not hijack the post. I studied up on eastern street slang because a friend of mine wanted to use it for a role play character. First and foremost Eastern Street Slang is meant to be confusing. It is quite literally meant to be as ridiculous as possible while still being understandable. To that end changing the rules to meet your needs is acceptable, so long as there is context to understand your idea. For more hard rules here are a few: Tense is usually set in the beginning of the sentence or statement. "Ising of", "Wasing of", "Doing of", is "I am", "I was", "I will be". Subject is usually contextually set, but can be set at the beginning along with tense. For example of "Being of cold" would become "I am cold" Alternatively you could phrase that as "Ising of cold of being" An example of setting tense at the beginning rather than the English style of setting tense throughout you might have "Wasing of cold of being at darkness" That last statement translates to "I was cold at night". I switched night to darkness to help create more chaos, but contextually you should be able to guess. That at least starts some of the rules and gives you something of an idea. If you want more in depth start a post and link me to it, and I'll expand on the rules.
  3. So I was bouncing around the idea of individuals who hold shards become the embodiment of their shard. It has been noted several times that those that become shards at first keep their own personality and traits, but over time become slaves to their shard. In the Oathbringer it is mentioned that at first Honor was encouraging the Humans of Roshar that they have a right to the land too and their fight was noble, but as time progressed he was basically just screaming about oaths and honor. We can see that overtime Tanavast lost his own personality and became an embodiment of Honor. Ati is interesting. It is mentioned he was once the kindest of the shardbearers, but became a slave to the concept of Ruin. But I did notice that Ruin had a twisted viewpoint when talking to Vin. He often makes comments about how what he is doing is a kindness. I don't have the books nearby to reference, but a few paraphrased lines of have him talking about how nothing is meant to last forever, and he is the one to ensure this happens. Or that she should think of him like a shopkeeper who sweeps up and turns the light off when the shop is closed. I think Ati, who was a kind individual originally, retained some of this even as consumed by Ruin as he was. He sees destroying and ruining things as a sort of benevolence. His personality traits seems to have mixed with the concept of Ruin and created a weird altruistic Ruin. I'm wondering if a hateful person like Rayse would have made a violent, vicious Ruin instead. Or a strategic person might have created a Ruin who sees the destruction of Scadrial as just another move in the game of chess. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
  4. I think within the world of Roshar spiders fall under plausible. I don't think "silk net to catch flying insects" spiders are viable on Roshar, however a lot of the variants people have pointed out could be viable on that planet. If something spider like didn't evolve naturally on Roshar, I can imagine a Worldhopper brought one with by accident, and it adapted to its environment over time.
  5. The results of your quiz matched up with what I already assumed was my order. Willshaper. Willshaper - 61% Edgedancer - 47% Elsecaller - 47% Lightweaver - 35% Bondsmith - 29% Truthwatcher - 21% Windrunner - 11% Skybreaker - 6% Dustrbringer - 0% Stoneward - 0% When I first started trying to match myself to an order I almost immediately gravitated toward Willshapers. The line about how they love adventure, the novel, and the odd, matched me completely. I can very much imagine myself wandering to Shadesmar constantly. I would really love to know what cohesion does. Such a long wait for the next book! Next time Sanderson has a signing nearby I want to see if I can get him to give up a few hints on how Cohesion works!
  6. I had put a backstory about how I got into Sanderson's books in the new member section and @daschaich suggested I post it here. So time to copy and paste: So, over here in Utah our High schools all compete in a massive literature/language/art competition called English Quest. I decided to join the competition in 2010. The competition has five books in five genres that are a required read to join the competition. In the fantasy category Mistborn was the book of the year. I read it, and had a lot of fun with it. I competed in the poetry recitation, monologue recitation, and short story writing competition, so none of my categories had to do with the book itself. However, I was supporting some friends who submitted a Mistborn to the movie trailer competition (had to be based on one of the books), and got reinvigorated with the book. Amusingly, one of my best friends I met through work after high school also competed in English Quest 2010. There is an animated Mistborn movie trailer floating around Youtube somewhere that she and her school did. Anyway, after English Quest was over I went back to Mistborn to reread, and realized there were sequels. Que me reading the Era 1 trilogy with mad abandon. Got a few friends to read it and was pretty content. Then my high school librarian directed me to another Sanderson book the library had, Warbreaker. Great read, had fun with that. I didn't really hunt down what other works Sanderson had, but throughout high school I would borrow the Mistborn series every few months when I didn't feel like hunting down new books to read. In my senior year Alloy of Law came out, and with Mistborn becoming one of my favorite books series, I decided to go purchase my own copy of the Mistborns and Warbreaker. Didn't have enough money to purchase anything else, but I noted Elantris existed at that time. Picked up Shadows of Self a few month after it came out (didn't realize it had been released), blinked, and picked up Bands of Mourning. Eventually, after going through the books for the dozenth time or so I finally noticed the name "Hoid" popped up a lot. Informant in books one and three of Mistborn, and as the storyteller in Warbreaker. I go looking it up online thinking it was a reference of some sort. And cue me getting hit in the face with the Cosmere. Oh, colors! I picked up the info about Hoid, and a few other tidbits I could pick up without spoiling myself to the other books. Being super busy with college, and not having any money had me put buying the other books on a back burner. Graduated early 2016, and ended up picking up the Reckoners series, not realizing they weren't connected to the Cosmere. In September of 2017, I went out and purchased Elantris, Emperors Soul, and the first two books of the Stormlight Archives. Lucky me, by the time I was done reading Words of Radiance it was only about a month until the release of Oathbringer (Mwahahaha, minimal waiting time!). After I got done reading Oathbringer I dove into the Cosmere. Hung out mostly on Reddit and Coppermind learning all I could learn. Finally caught enough references to 17th shard (the forum) that I decided to wander over here a few days ago and check it out. I kept seeing theories and ideas I wanted to comment on so I decided to jump in! I still need to go hunt down the Arcanum Unbound to read, but I want to get White Sand read first, so I am still just a little bit behind in becoming a Cosmere Scholar. I also skipped over Rithmatist since that was Sanderson's children's series. Might pick it up to check out his style, but at this moment I don't have money to spend on a book that isn't relevant to the Cosmere. I also read the first couple of books of the Wheel of Time before ever knowing Sanderson eventually took them over. I didn't like them, so I decided to stop reading the series. Been wondering for a couple of years if it might be worth the time to make another attempt at the series.
  7. No, never had money to pick it up. I'm going to elect to ignore it as Sanderson will probably change them in the future anyway.
  8. To be fair, I don't think of Zinc/Brass burners as subconsciously burning metals constantly, I see it as a compulsion to use their powers, however they can. Breeze has some interesting perspectives we we are in his PoV in WoA. Breeze idly makes guards and maids day a little bit better by subtly soothing them (focusing attentiveness for the guards, and chattiness for the maids), he later complains to Clubs that he does it because he can, but at the same time it annoys him (followed by a great line about wearing pink, carrying flowers, and making a killing at weddings). He also mentions that he is never sure if those that love him do because he forced them to or if they are genuine. This seems to be almost an addiction for Breeze to use his powers, and despite the side effects he can't help but to keep doing it. The reason I think Breeze is under the negative effects of a Savant is that he seems to have become a slave to his compulsion.
  9. So I have been considering Savantism on Scadrial. I ran into a discussion talking about the best savant and it was really interesting. Between that and a WoB that for the life of me I can't find, I wanted to focus on the potential weakness of each Savant. Their drawback for their increased abilities. Sanderson mentioned by all rights Wax really should be classified as a Savant, but he hasn't because he hasn't figured out what the trade off for being a Steel Savant is. Thought I would take to the forums to see who has theories about Savant weaknesses. I can't personally think of what kind of drawback a Steel Savant has, but I want to review our known Savants and their drawbacks. Tin users get to the point of being unsensing unless they are burning tin Pewter users can literally be dying but not know it. I imagine massive broken bones and internal bleeding would be shrugged off. Now, those are the only two we know from the books explicitly telling us. I'm going to talk about Brass, which is one we seems to have gotten some hints at. Brass users seem to have an impulsive need to Soothe. Breeze seems to be considered a pseudo-savant, and it is mentioned that Breeze is always Soothing. It is often written off as part of his personality. However, during one of his PoV scenes he sits and has a drink with Clubs. Clubs inquires why he bothers to sit and drink with him. Breeze shrugs it off, and Clubs doesn't care enough to pursue it. But I think that Breeze is so compulsed to always be Soothing anyone nearby, that being around Clubs, who he can't Soothe, and knows he can't affect, is shown to be a relief to him. I think the side affect of Soothing Savantism is perpetual soothing. I'm not sure if Zinc would have a similar trade off, but it seems likely. But, I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on what the weaknesses of the other Savants might be. I'm going to throw up a list that I'll edit as we get solid theories and cannon as new books come out. Physical Iron Theory: Metal blindness. Theory 2: Sense of vulnerability in open space. Theory 3: Ironsight sight only. Steel Theory: Metal blindness. Theory 2: Sense of claustrophobia. Theory 3: Steelsight sight only. Pewter Cannon Tin Cannon Mental Zinc Theory: impulsive rioting Brass Theory: impulsive soothing Bronze Theory: Lack of pulsing causes agitation. Copper Theory: Lack of empathy Temporal Gold Theory: altering spiritual web, possibly allowing other magics to control savant more easily. Theory 2: Multiple personality disorder. Electrum Theory: fear of the uknown. Cadmium Theory: Age distortion. Theory 2: Bored/agitated at the slow pace of things. Bendalloy Theory: Age distortion. Theory 2: Fear of missing out on things. Enhancement Aluminum Theory: compulsively burning away investiture. Duraluminum Theory: No metal selecting. All metals burn. Nicrosil Theory: Burn other's metal on contact impulsively. Theory 2: Compulsive touching. Chromium Theory: Burn other's metal on contact impulsively. Theory 2: Compulsive touching. Edit: fixed my typos
  10. Probably Kelsier. His sense of optimism and relentless determination is something I admire and aspire to. I also appreciate him being a Drama King. Syl is an amazing character just because she is so fun. Favorite moment with her is when it is explained that she is a tiny sliver of a god and that Kaladin may "bow to her now." Lastly, Hoid, kind of. He is what brought me into the Cosmere. Also, I love a mysterious character (I actually hate it in stories when the mystery character is revealed, takes away the magic), and Hoid fills that niche and then some. Plus his time as Wit had me busting out laughing, even on rereads.
  11. Going to base my powers from a superpower generator some friends and I used a while back. As one of my friends put it "they have to be random, superpowers are random." (Excluding Iron Man style heroes where they build things to enhance themselves). 1) Primary power is Perfect Shot. Any projectile I fire will hit where I want it to. I am still bound by the laws of physics, if I try and throw a knife ten miles to hit a target I will never hit them. But within the laws of physics, no shot, no matter how difficult, will ever miss. I view it as my mind getting a super upgrade relative to firing projectiles. Secondary power is Water Body. At will I can turn my body into an equivalent volume of water. I'm going to treat water body very similar to Obliteration's teleportation. I can turn clothing and objects attached to me into water. Acts as a prime invincibility, if I am about to be hurt it activates. While in water body I have a sense of where I am at and can still think. All the water collects back together and solidifies back into my human body at a fast, but not instant speed. Not a primary part of my ability but more of a quirk that I spent years learning to use: by starting the process of reassembling my body, but not fully forming, I can create a sort of wave of water and propel myself around. It's not very fast, but it lets me squeeze into tight areas and move around. 2) Since I have no common phobias I'll have to go more existential. I fear being weak. I have had enough bad experiences where I have exposed a physical, emotional, or social weakness, and had it exploited. I am terrified of being in a situation where I have to ask for help or admit to being weak. A sort of ironic problem for an Epic, since one of their motivations is tied to being weak. Luckily, Epics are arrogant enough that I doubt I would ever actually admit to being weak or asking for help, so maybe it works out. 3) Cheesy name? Blindside. You'll never see it coming. 4) Normal humans are like fleas. Their not worth the waste of bullets to kill them. Unless they are in my way, I'll ignore them. Subtlety is my method, and wantonly killing humans will attract attention. Lesser Epics are similar, albeit more like rats than fleas. More troubling, more noticeable, but they can be entertaining in the right circumstances. Other powerful Epics are far more amusing. The challenge in killing another Epic is what entertains me. Those who may not have a prime invincibility, but are difficult to kill are the most fun. I move city to city setting up a hidden nest full of comforts. While I am there I will offer my services to other Epics, so long as they can pay. If there is an interesting Epic that might be a challenge to kill, I'll take them out, even if I wasn't hired for it. I will avoid High Epics (if I can't kill them, what's the point?) and water manipulators (being trapped in several different jars and buried underground does not seem like a fun way to spend eternity). For costume, I'm diving full into cheesy edgy style. Black beanie, tinted goggles, black scarf loosely covering my face from the nose to the neck. Black duster, worn open, with a dark green shirt (got have a little color in there to break up all the black), black jeans, and black boots. Carrying the most powerful (accuracy optional, I'll make up for it) sniper rifle I can find slung across my back. Dual pistols on the outside of both thighs, and a bandoleer of clips across the chest (see David and Megan, both can be used). Belt pouch on my side holds a few important items like a mobile, universal detonator caps, etc. Couple of knives tucked into the boots for throwing. Travel around on a bike similar to the ones in Steelheart, but black base, and green highlights. LOL. I had to access so much teen angst to build this character. Would be cool to be Blindside for awhile I'll admit though.
  12. I found one just sitting on a plate while wandering around the forum. I tried it before I was warned about those colors cursed spikes.
  13. Sure, I should warn you that I have my breath stored in my shirt though... Also I did not know that someone was using the spiked cookies as a recruitment tactic. I thought it was an in joke while I was wondering the forum.
  14. I tried one of those cookies already. It was delicious, until I got a spike stuck in my tongue. On the downside, I lost my sense of taste. On the upside, I can store luck now!
  15. Hi all! Just signed up for 17th shard yesterday after browsing for a few days. Thought I would post here and say Hi! Figured I'd give a history of how I got into Sanderson's amazing work and see if I can get other people talking about how they got involved. So, over here in Utah our High schools all compete in a massive literature/language/art competition called English Quest. I decided to join the competition in 2010. The competition has five books in five genres that are a required read to join the competition. In the fantasy category Mistborn was the book of the year. I read it, and had a lot of fun with it. I competed in the poetry recitation, monologue recitation, and short story writing competition, so none of my categories had to do with the book itself. However, I was supporting some friends who submitted a Mistborn to the movie trailer competition (had to be based on one of the books), and got reinvigorated with the book. Amusingly, one of my best friends I met through work after high school also competed in English Quest 2010. My original post got hit with a spam warning, so I'm wondering if the video link did that. I'll submit that separately. Anyway, after English Quest was over I went back to Mistborn to reread, and realized there were sequels. Que me reading the Era 1 trilogy with mad abandon. Got a few friends to read it and was pretty content. Then my high school librarian directed me to another Sanderson book the library had, Warbreaker. Great read, had fun with that. I didn't really hunt down what other works Sanderson had, but throughout high school I would borrow the Mistborn series every few months when I didn't feel like hunting down new books to read. In my senior year Alloy of Law came out, and with Mistborn becoming one of my favorite books series, I decided to go purchase my own copy of the Mistborns and Warbreaker. Didn't have enough money to purchase anything else, but I noted Elantris existed at that time. Picked up Shadows of Self a few month after it came out (didn't realize it had been released), blinked, and picked up Bands of Mourning. Eventually, after going through the books for the dozenth time or so I finally noticed the name "Hoid" popped up a lot. Informant in books one and three of Mistborn, and as the storyteller in Warbreaker. I go looking it up online thinking it was a reference of some sort. And cue me getting hit in the face with the Cosmere. Oh, colors! I picked up the info about Hoid, and a few other tidbits I could pick up without spoiling myself to the other books. Being super busy with college, and not having any money had me put buying the other books on a back burner. Graduated early 2016, and ended up picking up the Reckoners series, not realizing they weren't connected to the Cosmere. In September of 2017, I went out and purchased Elantris, Emperors Soul, and the first two books of the Stormlight Archives. Lucky me, by the time I was done reading Words of Radiance it was only about a month until the release of Oathbringer (Mwahahaha, minimal waiting time!). After I got done reading Oathbringer I dove into the Cosmere. Hung out mostly on Reddit and Coppermind learning all I could learn. Finally caught enough references to 17th shard (the forum) that I decided to wander over here a few days ago and check it out. I kept seeing theories and ideas I wanted to comment on so I decided to jump in! I still need to go hunt down the Arcanum Unbound to read, but I want to get White Sand read first, so I am still just a little bit behind in becoming a Cosmere Scholar. I also skipped over Rithmatist since that was Sanderson's children's series. Might pick it up to check out his style, but at this moment I don't have money to spend on a book that isn't relevant to the Cosmere. I also read the first couple of books of the Wheel of Time before ever knowing Sanderson eventually took them over. I didn't like them, so I decided to stop reading the series. Been wondering for a couple of years if it might be worth the time to make another attempt at the series. So that's my story! I'll be floating around this forum learning the formatting style and rules of the forum, and interjecting myself into conversation. Since Mistborn is my primary series that started all this, and one of my favorite books series of all time, I'll probably be focused over there most of the time! -EmeraldMind