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  1. There are 2 parts of a radiant's power: * the physical representation of surges, which can be used the same by all orders that have it (e.g. skybreakers and windrunners use lashings the same; adhesion is used in the same way by bondsmiths and windrunners) * some (non-physical?) effect of surges or combination of surges that results in some extra-power we see the radiants have (e.g. Kaladin creating the shield of windspren) Bearing this in mind, Adolin has the surges of the Truthwathers and hence can do the same basic things. Corrupted higher level spren I think is quite different than corrupted low-level spren, since you have sentience and some kind of Intent in the mix. So even if the corruption seems to have changed some non-physical effects, the Intent of Glys seems to be the same as a Truthwatcher spren. So I would say that Renarin is different than Truthwatchers in the sense that he can't do all the things a real Truthwather can do (which we don't know; maybe seeing the present/past, to be related to his seeing the future?), but he can do some other stuff instead (seeing the future). Probably because seeing the future (via Odium) is changing the future, one of Odium's greatest advantages (being able to see further into the future than any other Shard) is negated - because his power can be used against him... I think Renarin for now can only see the more likely future paths (like Jashnah killing him, Dalinar succumbing to Odium) but he could get better in the future at looking at more diverse paths events can follow. Another interesting possibility is that Renarin sees what Odium sees/thinks the future holds, so he can effectively be a spy for the KR against Odium.
  2. We know there were sprens before the shards arrived on Roshar, presumably sprens of Adonalsium... so maybe there was something more hiding on Roshar
  3. Just to add one more: we = odium + autonomy shards you = unity shard where unity shard would be the best opposition to autonomy , odium helped bavadin kill it
  4. Sja-Anat is "Taker of Secrets" Cryptics are attracted to secrets...
  5. it's possible that the Sibling is not of Honor or Cultivation, but one native Rosharan spren so you have 4 factions: honor, cultivation, odium, and the spren that were before the shards came. since Sys says that some of them have 4 genders, maybe there's some similar weird reason why Stormfather refers to the the Sibling as "they" ...
  6. Is it just me thinking that spren is not actually Elhokar's spren, but Sja-Anat? EDIT: or maybe the 3rd Bondsmith spren?
  7. parshendi were "the last legion", a military group that probably deserted the voidbringers the last desolation by renouncing the power forms and odium, and hide. they used only a few forms that were odium-free. probably because they were hiding for a long time, they lost contact with the world and didn't know about parshmen. it's interesting how parshmen were kept out of the storms for so long, how none had a transformation-by-mistake. in any case, now we have another group that did the same the last legion of the last legion...
  8. I also haven't read SH, but this discussion is fascinating - can't wait to read the Realmatics in it. @Spoolofwhool I think the OP is saying that cognitive shadows are pulled in Braize's Shadesmar instead of Roshar's Shadesmar. So a person dying is not "shown around"/"given a choice" by Honor and/or Cultivation (well, just Cultivation now), but by Odium. Maybe this happens in all of Roshar EXCEPT Shinovar - maybe dying on Shinovar means you do end-up in Roshar and Cultivation says "Hi". Maybe cognitive shadows appear where the shard is - and after Honor's death they appear on Braize's Shadesmar, because maybe Cultivation is now only in charge of Shinovar - again, dying in Shinovar would be different from dying elsewhere on Roshar. On a slightly different note - what would happen if you are cut down by a Shardblade or Nightblood? With shardblade, you die on spiritual realm, but with Nightblood, you would be cut from the cognitive too - does it mean you don't get a cognitive shadow and go straight to the Beyond?
  9. Like @AngelEy3 said: Maybe he asked to "take away the pain", and both the pain (boon) AND the memory (curse) is gone.
  10. I agree with the theory that it was Cultivation/Nightwatcher. "The source was distant, but he knew it. Knew it well." - he knew it because he's been to the Nightwatcher before. He was sure it was similar to the Almighty visions, because it was a vision - but not from Almighty, but from the other God on Roshar.
  11. No they would not This kind of information would not be given away so easily
  12. Ym

    Nale is not a Skybreaker, and he's not bound in any way by those oaths since he's not a KR in the first place. But where did you get the Skybreaker's second ideal? EDIT: got to the WoB about the ideal
  13. Maybe Syl seeing Pattern (without them being aware of eachother)?
  14. Pattern had nothing to do with that soulcaster. The soulcaster was not "forged" in the Davar masion, but it was given to them by the Ghostbloods. How would have Ghostbloods catch Pattern?