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  1. Nohadon was not king at the time of the last desolation. Nohadon was early. The Way of Kings (the in world book) was the inspiration for the Orders. The Knights were established and fought in the Desolations. If he were king at the end, the Orders as we know of them would have only existed between Ahariatiem and the Recreance.
  2. Solid black with no visible iris or pupil for standard forms. Solid red for Regals and Fused.
  3. If I had a choice? Cultivation hands down. The planning and manipulation. The tugging of strings to achieve a desired result. I would enjoy the abilities of the quintessential web weaver.
  4. One thing that I wanted to add, that hasn't been brought up, but we're all aware of. I believe it was @ccstat who brought it up in discord (and I don't mean to imply that he subscribes to the Ambition theory, because to my knowledge he doesn't back either one) that it is well known that Wit and Bavadin have a grudge. Why would the Hoid reach out to a Shard based on familiarity, when we all know according to the first letters between Hoid and Frost, that Hoid's relationship with Bavadin is anything but cordial? The very familiarity the second letter references, as if expecting a friendly interaction, is in opposition with the relationship we know the two share.
  5. Fabrials can reproduce everything that the surges can do. This will never result in a "Fabrial Radiant" though. Fabrials by their very nature express one specific use of a surge, and only one. For a person to be able to do everything that a Radiant can, they'd have to be carrying enough fabrials that they would be difficult to keep track of. I have visions of a character who is kind of a Fabrial-Tech Batman, but even that wouldn't be the same thing. They'd need to be remarkably skilled on their own, and then have Fabrial gadgets to aid them. The flexibility of a Radiant will never be replicable by a fabrial though.
  6. I don't think our eye colors actually fit in anywhere. Dark eyes are unnaturally dark. Most are near black, and color can only be seen when the light hits them correctly. I expect that light eyes are also not just unnatural colors, like orange and yellow, but more vibrant then our natural eyes. Even for natural colors. I think that our variations, light or dark, would fall in between and thoroughly confuse Rosharans.
  7. If he'd splintered the Shard, he may not have foreseen this as a possibility. Something has definitely changed recently. In OB he speaks as though just splintering isn't enough and the fragments of Honor's power must be dealt with. Ambition, if this is true and he is aware of it, could be a very good reason for that change.
  8. I don't think the Cognitive Shadow is needed at all. Hoid has had contact with Adonalsium and all the Shards. There's connection there to be read. When Sazed picked up the power, he intuitively learned its history. In Elantris, the Shardpool speaks with Aona's voice, even though we know she dead and gone. The power itself has a record, even without the Vessel itself. As to your earlier response to me about Bavadin, I'll agree to disagree. There are 3 sapient races from Yolen, and if the naming structure is correct (Sho Del, Uli Da, Etc.) the Bavadin isn't Sho Del, which would place her as either Human or Dragon. Both of which we've seen speak in a normal syntaxes in reference to the self.
  9. All Selish magics require connection to the nation of origin.
  10. All fabrials are relatively new. Spanreeds are a couple decades old. We're watching an insanely rapid technological explosion. Navani is an artifabrian. I'm not saying that it's not possible, but it's far less interesting. We also have no evidence that a lashing can be anchored in that way. Lashing infuse the stormlight directly into the object to be effected. All together, I think Navani would be far more likely to expand the tech she knows intimately to take advantage of the things the Radiants are doing, then to rely on them as a crutch in place of technological advances.
  11. But if that's all you need, why bother with a Radiant at all when we have evidence of fabrials able to do something similar?
  12. Which would make the ship impossible to steer as it would be falling in a set direction.
  13. Thank you. I completely disagree, but in trying to argue my point you made me realize fully why I disagree so hard. Bavadin has been known to have many different personas. Many faces through which she acts. But they're all Bavadin. Not Autonomy. Bavadin. If this thing is Autonomy, Bavadin is gone. This is not acting. It's not playing a role. This appears to be a true collective, in that there's no sense of self, just of us. Thats not what that WoB describes.
  14. I like it a lot, and as much as most people take Autonomy as a given, I hate the idea of the letter author as Bavadin. A collective mind is anything but autonomous. Add that to the expansionist viewpoint of the author(s) and their respect for Rayse (which is see no other way to interpret as respect for his ambition) and the tests for Hoid to prove himself... Ambition fits in my mind much better.
  15. They are. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/262/#e8793