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This all makes sense! Thanks for the responses!

Maybe this has been discussed before, but I have been wondering about this for a while. After each Desolation , the Fused and Heralds go back to Damnation, and the humans prevail and rebuild civilization . What happens to the surviving singers? Do they just retreat to some remote area and regroup for the next Desolation ? You would think that after "ending" a Desolation you wouldnt just leave the enemy to go regroup for the next one in a few hundred years?

I'm leaning towards Aux not being dead dead. I think he is likely dead in the way Maya was dead. If Aux was dead dead, I find it highly unlikely he would remain in the physical world as Blade/Armor that can be summoned (We have seen other spren outright permanently killed and they don't leave a body ( blade) behind). Maybe he would leave his body behind as a permanent blade or armor. The fact that he can be summoned and dismissed leads me to believe he still exists in Shadesmar as something like a deadeye like Maya. It would make sense that Siz can't hear him/talk with him , just like Shardbearers can't hear the dead spren of their blades. I could totally be wrong about this. Maybe Brandon has a mechanism or explanation for how a permanently dead ( non-deadeye) spren could leave a body behind that can be summoned/dismiss and be bonded to someone.

Excellent post Toaster

I never realized this until you mentioned it. It makes sense. It would explain the rest of the Herald's madness as well, although Nin was watching and I'm not sure he had any kind of lucidity. I'm not sure, but has it been agreed that the Heralds were Invested with Honors power? Maybe Honor's death had the side effect of driving the Heralds insane, much like Tanavast was going mad as he died.

It makes perfect sense to me. What is confusing of the Stormfathers use of the word spren. It would make sense that the Fused are the cognitive shadows of the ancient Listeners, and I would assume thats what the Stormfather means. Someone needs to ask BS to clarify lol

Whats fascinating and confusing about this, is the Stormfather called them the "Spren of Parshmen long dead" . Is the Stormfather using the word spren as an equivalent to soul? Because if not, then he is implying that the Voidbringers arent Parshmen descendants, but rather the spren that were bonded to the Parshmen.

So the Stormfather refers to the Voidbringers as "Spren of Parshmen long dead" How is he using the word "Spren" Does he mean actual Spren? Or does he mean soul/cognitive shadow? Because cognitive shadow seems to be the only way it makes sense

I think Mr T's whole plan is fundamentally flawed and simply cannot work. His entire Diagram/plan revolves around him ultimately being in charge and dealing/making a deal with Odium. The idea that he is capable of this( not just dealing with Odium, but managing the coalition ) is simply incomprehensible. We have a man that half the time barely has the combined cognitive ability of a cucumber, and he is somehow the only one who is able to see the world thru this mess? It just doesnt make sense on a fundamental level. It would be more believable if the Diagram has him as senior advisor or helping someone with faculties navigate...but him being in charge? Nah..doesnt compute

For the rest of today, December 6th(yeah i know..a little late lol)..their overstock is only $5. Their overstock includes the entirety of Way of Kings...so $25 .

Yeah, you may be right. It seems the humans must have abandoned their surgebinding for a time after the God-swap. Syl told Kaladin that spren saw what the Honorblades did and copied them, so that would mean post God-swap, humans were no longer surgebinding( since Odium was no longer their Patron)and were getting their butts kicked by the Fused until the Heralds.

Do we know all 5 of the Skybreakers ideals?

Can someone explain how this fits in with what we now know about the origins of humans on Roshar? So humans brought Surgebinding to Roshar (i'm assuming it was thru Odiums spren/voidspren) and confronted the Parshmen who served Honor. At some point, the humans and Parshmen switched roles/Gods. The Stormfather says above that even before the Parshmen learned the surges, men couldnt defeat them. Were the human voidbringers that invaded Roshar losing to the Parshmen even with their Surgebinding abilities?

Another possibility is that maybe the Heralds suffered the same thing as the Voidbringers each time they went to Damnation and returned . The Stormfather said that each time the Fused were reawakened from Damnation they were "injured" mentally.

This sounds likely actually .The Stormfather said to Dalinar " He curses me at night, even as he names himself a god. He seeks death. His own. Perhaps that of every man" . It would make sense then that he would side with Odium if thats the case. It seems part of their insanity is the insane (no pun intended) amount of guilt they carry.