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  1. I don't have the time to reply to all, but here is another extract from WoR which I believe is relevant. WoR, Chapter 58 Sadeas wanted to kill Dalinar, this is true, but not before he hurt him, not before he made him suffer, not before he discredited him, not before he won.
  2. Well for what it is worth, I liked your theory. I have no idea where the story is going, but having the Ghostblood and Ialai being responsible for the copycat murders increased the tension for Adolin. Now it is some supernatural entity, so it tempers down my excitement some. Maybe it'll turn out great, but I wanted Adolin killing Sadeas having consequences for himself, not it triggering some ancient evil spirit. There are quite a few of us who expected more out of Ialai, so let's keep our hopes high and believe she will rise up to her reputation within future chapters. I am not sure which option I personally support: I may sit on the fence for this one. I am tempted to say she is really grieving: it would be natural, but it makes her a less magnificent villain unless she uses her pain to get revenge. Option 1 has merit, but it seems a bit convoluted at this point in time. Option 3 is also plausible, she may have been trying to extract a given reaction out of Adolin, trying to lure him into a false sense of security. I do not believe the most cunning woman in Alethkar truly believed Dalinar is behind the murder: I think she just dropped it to see how Adolin would react. He reacted fast, with fire and intensity, he snapped rapidly, but what Shallan thinks was the best reaction perhaps wasn't... I have been thinking about it some more and it seems to me Adolin reacted... well... hastily. Ialai wasn't really dropping any accusations, not formally, so either Adolin's reaction was the right come-back and allowed him to take control of the conversation or it actually gave him away by how prompt he was to defend his father. I do agree Ialai likely suspected Adolin from the start. It was my impression too when I read the scene. I never thought she was accusing Dalinar... Adolin was the uncaged whitespine, so I definitely think the metaphor was meant for him. Of course, Ialai doesn't know about Adolin starring at a caged whitespine and then, later on as he fought the 4 on 1 duel, thinking "this whitespine" (meaning himself) was not yet caged, but Brandon does. The metaphor wasn't phrased in a way Adolin would think it incriminates him, but Brandon choosing it could mean he wants us to draw these conclusions. I agree she is being vague likely on purpose. The meeting was to gauge Adolin, to evaluate him, to weight in her suspicions. She can't know it is him, but if she is cunning she might have catch a clue or not. She also seemed very distressed. I also agree thinking a regular soldier would have the balls to attack a Shardbearer is really far-fetched. Either she thinks it is Adolin himself or Bridge 4 as they are squires though she might not know this or know what it means. It wouldn't take a personal investigator to learn the only other people being on the same level as Sadeas were the exploration teams comprised of Bridge 4 and led by Adolin... I so want Adolin's thoughts.... Why no direct accusations? Because he has no proofs. Reveling her game this early would undermined her chances of snaring Adolin. She needs to get more proofs, she needs to built a case then she can accuse him or attack him or whatever, but it better be worth it I do think she is vague on purpose, I got the same feeling. Of course she got to him: he snapped back at her. Adolin doesn't snap nor wear his anger and his fiery cloak unless provoked. He reacted, hence she knows she hit something sensitive. If he had nothing to reproach to the Kholin princedom, then Adolin wouldn't have needed to throw in his retort. He was overly defensive, too defensive when to avoid suspicion, he should have calmly kept on playing her game and ignore her bait. Shallan missed it because she was too concentrated on herself and Mraize. I hope she will not disappoint. Why mentioning Amaram? Because she is laying down her cards. She knows about the accusation Dalinar made against him. Now she is bringing him into the equation. She might use young Adolin's guilt to exonerate Amaram. I am currently thinking she was fishing for a reaction from Adolin: she knows he is hotheaded, brash and passionate. She tried to get him to react in order to get additional clues and it worked. I am thinking Mraize appreciates the trouble the Sadeas are causing within Dalinar-land. He can't control the city if Dalinar controls it, so anyone undermining Dalinar is his ally. When I read this passage, I thought she was accusing Adolin. I thought the "you" meant Adolin himself. She later acknowledges the murder likely was the act of a rogue soldier, she is too smart not to have come to those conclusions herself. I'm pretty sure she suspects Adolin and her entire tirade it meant for him. It was never meant for Dalinar. This is a mistake I believe the characters might have been making: thinking it is all about Dalinar, thinking the Sadeas's endgame was to kill Dalinar. Indications we currently have indicate it was Adolin they were trying to remove. I mean, let's look at it: Dalinar is an old man who lost all tastes for war. He will never be the Blackthorn again and if he retains influence, it is because of his past, but the more he stays away from the fight, the more he is likely to lose it. On the other hand, Adolin is the quick rising star of house Kholin. Sadeas witnessed him winning an impossible fight and saw him display cleverness he never even suspected he had: he later fears the son might grow into an opponent as formidable as his father once was. Right after, he thinks to himself he never really wanted the Blackthorn to come back, he missed his old friend, but not what he was. I find it too easy to conclude Torol Sadeas feared Adolin more than he feared Dalinar and it was him the Sadeas wanted to remove. I mean, what's the point of removing Dalinar if he is to be replaced by young Adolin rapidly growing into a force to be reckoned with? Why changed an old down on the sliding slope man by a younger vigorous horribly skilled one? Oh and on the smaller note, she refers to Adolin as Adolin Kholin. His full name.
  3. I am glad to see I am not the only one struggling with the serialization. I am really eager to read certain denouements, but each week I feel they aren't happening and, as thus, it makes me feel as if the story was slow paced. It isn't, not really: I am just more interested into one story arc than others and the format makes it the progression of this story is... slow. As for characters, Kaladin reads differently because his story arc focus less on his inner demons and more on what is happening around him which is a change in his narrative. Shallan doesn't seem to know what to do with herself and her new found memories, so I think it accounts for the change of characterization. Before, she was nervous, anxious and eager to make everything work, now she isn't. She is more self-absorbed by her own problems and if she tries to open-up to Adolin, she remains closer on herself. Adolin is very consistent with himself: everything discussed on the character has been made more obvious so far: he is insecure, he is hard-working, he doesn't want to admit weaknesses or failure, he wants to appear strong, he is willing to push himself far to avoid his image to shatter and his relationship with his father is... strained, something not many reader caught on in WoR. His arc is more internal than before, but it is currently suffering from Brandon not giving him viewpoints. Dalinar feels the most changed as his viewpoint speaks solely of Navani, sometimes of Jasnah and Elhokar, never of his sons. The lack in inter-action with his sons is one of my critic: it feels as if Dalinar was given an entirely different narrative, one which happens in Urithiru, but doesn't engage his sons whereas they were very present in the past. As for how Part 1 will end, I would prefer another ending than the one you suggested. So far, I feel Kaladin's story arc is too much a rehearsing of his story arc back in WoK, so if he ends up captured or trapped, once again, for real, then it will feel too repetitive. So while all climaxes have centered on Kaladin within the books, so far, I would prefer if the Part 1 climax didn't involve him. I am fine with Kaladin taking a decision, sticking to it and to see it unravel instead of him being imprisoned. Since I am yearning for it, my personal wish would be for Part 1 climax to involve the reveal of Adolin as Sadeas's killer and the mayhem which happens next. This has been the one story I want to see unravel and I don't think it will make for a good story telling if Brandon drags it to Part 4. Reality however probably is the climax doesn't involve Adolin, but one is allowed to dream some. Except for Shallan and Adolin, I feel Dalinar's viewpoint is too disconnected from the other characters. I hope they have a get together soon. And I really want something to happen with Adolin, something worth reading 24 chapters with no much happening.
  4. Think about how much we learn on Edgedancers within the Edgedancer novel... Lift is supposed to have a book later on: if there is one order will likely know a lot about once we get there, it has to be the Edgedancers.
  5. I have somehow became doubtful the focus of "one book per order" will be respected in a firm manner. It seems odd we wouldn't learn anything about say "Truthwatchers" until we get to Renarin's book. As thus, I have taken the one book per order as a very lose term which may not hold the road once we finish the series. I am thinking Brandon is juggling in between wanting to show one book per order and showing the Heralds' backstory. Mind, we have to keep in mind the flashbacks aren't mean to flesh out knights but to unravel secrets from the past. This being said, I do agree you did imply my suggestion within your point #2, so my bad
  6. How do we know this? It may be she will become an important character later on. It is way too early to tell. Brandon did warn us we haven't met a Dustbringer yet, now we did and yes, it wasn't someone we have previously met. She is someone new. Or no flashback sequences are written for a Dustbringer character. Flashback sequences do not have to be tied to knights, we just assumed they would be.
  7. That's pretty crack-pot, though it would explain why Ialai was so disappointing... I was expecting a massive scary villain, failing to intimidate or manipulate Adolin. It could be losing Sadeas truly shook her and she'll recover at a later time. Still, not the cunning, dangerous woman I was expecting. Mraize is looking our for her: it made her sound like a child needing a chaperone. I did not like it. Why does he need her anyway? And I was hoping she was manipulating him...
  8. Here are my thoughts so far on the three new chapters. This week, they will start with a rant...I hate reading the story within this serialized manner It gives me the impression it is slow paced as each week I hope the denouement I have been dying to read will happen and, each week, it doesn't. This is getting infuriating If I had the books into my hands, I'd be done reading it I feel the reading format we are constrained to forces me to be unfair towards the story and I hate it So there, rant over, now back to the chapters Chapter 22I am not surprised it is Shallan, anyone else would have broken the pace. The meeting didn't go as I expected. I was disappointed with Ialai: she sounded neither cunning, nor manipulative, nor dangerous. A grieving woman needing to be chaperon by Mraize as if she were a child. Adolin did well: I expected him to trip onto his own legs in front of the "most dangerous woman in the world", but nope. He did good. He did not fall into her traps and his earnests surely shed away doubts Ialai might have had towards him.Fiery Adolin has fire whenever someone attacks his family. He would never let anyone bad mouth or attack them so long as he is standing. As always, it makes me wonder if there is anyone who'd be willing to do the same for him?He thinks he will ruin it... Adolin never been defeatism until now.Still, I think Ialai was thinking of Adolin the whole time with her whitespine story. I also think she is thinking of him when she claims a soldier disobeyed and killed Sadeas thinking to do good. She has to know a regular soldier would never dare such a ploy. She has to suspect Adolin even if his behavior did not hint towards any guilt.I was annoyed we missed some of the conversation in between Adolin and Ialai just so Shallan could talk with Mraize He wants her to keep on her investigation... Of course, he knows about her previous "investigations".And thus Shallan and Adolin's story arc part ways: Adolin can go back to the background, the story arc was taken away from him The lack of pay-off for WoR's cliffhanger remain sa disappointment for me, as a reader, unless it finally happens, but I keep feeling the story was stolen from Adolin and given to Shallan. The supernatural theory is confirmed: there are no copycat murderer, just a weird city. Shallan will uncover it.Ialai and Sadeas were not Ghostbloods: this would have been interesting. I'm a bit disappointed in Ialai not turning out to be a "super villain".Helaran is back into the equation. I expected him to be broached with Kaladin, but I expected it to be a minor plot point, not something sounding so decisive. As some suspected, Shallan is way too distracted by herself and her "problems" to focus on supporting Adolin. Nothing bad happened in the meeting, but it goes back to my previous point: Adolin is sinking into the background. Amaram being tossed into the equation could be interesting, if it brings back the narrative onto "Who killed Sadeas?".So the chapter ends and Adolin still did not confess nor give clear indications with respect to his guilt, Shallan still did not piece it together. Sigh.Chapter 23Kaladin was actually interesting this week The Voidspren is taking a Syl-like appearance in order to taunt Kaladin into joining forces with them. All this time most readers thought it was Adolin Odium would go for, but no. Kaladin's hatred of the ruling class combined with his high sympathy for those looking "weak" and "abused" has made him the perfect victim to prey on.Am I the only one who thinks the nice, abused, grieving Parshendis is a ruse to snare Kaladin? It feels like a horror movie where the good guy gets welcomed into this weird city, he starts to like the people only to realize later they are monsters manipulating him?I get it now. I don't trust them. I don't trust this yellow spren and I think Kaladin joining forces with them would be a mistake. Fly away Kaladin!Chapter 24More Dalinar playing politics: I never find those chapters to be the most interesting So nobody wants to ally themselves with Dalinar, predictable. I guess we needed all of those chapters to come to this conclusion, now what will he do? Seems like taking away Adolin's Plate to buy Iriali's support will certainly happen.I am also annoyed at the complete lack of inter-action in between Dalinar and his sons: it is as if they had disappeared from his life all together. How can he be so selfish to think him forgetting his wife is just about him? Can't he share ONE thought for the boys who lost not only their mother, but also their father's memories of her to fill out theirs?I think it is odd how everyone is always thinking of Jasnah whereas in WoR, after she died, nobody was thinking about her... This is something readers commented upon in WoR.Taravangian is clearly manipulating Dalinar in thinking he lost his wit. He has a plan and it can't be good.DUSTBRINGER! Ah this was great. While I don't trust Matala, I was pleased to see on more Radiant: one who isn't within Dalinar's camp. I share your pains Bring back the murder story and focus it on Adolin, he's the one hiding something, not Shallan doing more investigation. I want the secret to come out
  9. Great post. I wanted to respond to this part because something occurred to me when I first read it. I feel Shallan's reaction to Adolin murdering Sadeas will be very different than her reaction to Jasnah murdering the thugs. The thugs incident involved Jasnah purposefully seeking individuals, despicable individuals, with the sole intend to murder them. She has no personal feud with those individuals, they never posed a threat to herself nor anyone she is closed to and they would have never attacker her had she not ventured into a recluse part of the city. There was nothing personal in Jasnah killing them, it was purely an exercise of "if you have the means to is it moral to kill known thugs?".At the time, Shallan had also suppressed all memories of herself murdering her parents and, as such, the event triggered a stringent reaction.This is not the case now. Not only Shallan knows and understands how Sadeas has been harming and threatening Adolin's family, she also knows there were few legal options for the Kholins to deal with him, but more importantly, she has now recovered her memories. She sees herself as "a despicable murderer" which she didn't during the Jasnah incident. She states from her own volition she has nothing against "despicable murderers" as long as they do not make a career of it, as long as they are willing to grow, to change. I thus think Shallan's mind frame is very different now and it will able her to view the murder in a whole new perspective. I thus do not think she'll be "angry" over it as she was with Jasnah. I can't see her getting angry at Adolin... She already agreed all relationships needed secrets: she herself hasn't told hers. She can't blame Adolin for something she is guilty of doing. She already knows there is something he hasn't told her, something bothering him, something potentially big. I also can't see her being angry over the fact it was murder: the man has been taunting Adolin and has tried to have his family killed. Needing to kill to protect family members is not only something Shallan understands, it is something she lived. So I am hoping for a denouement where Shallan won't condemn Adolin: enough people will already. If anything, Brandon knows how to deliver a climax and, as such, I definitely expect the next chapter to be Shallan or Adolin is Brandon is inclined to write the encounter from his perspective, but I doubt so. Any other character would ruin the pace and break the climax in two: I can't see Brandon doing this. When Kaladin punched Roshone, the very next chapter was his, so I do think it will be the same here. For the other chapters, I wish for either more Shallan or Adolin, this arc will take more than one chapter and Dalinar. No Kaladin: I don't feel we need an update on him, let's wait for the Highstorm to pass. No flashback either, too soon from the last one.
  10. I don't usually like "mysterious" characters: I find them boring and uninteresting I also tend to say they have no personalities because they are "mysterious". This however is a purely personal preference. Mraize just reads to me as the "place-holder" for "an organization and a bunch of other stuff we know nothing of" and this makes him a plot device more than a character, to me. I feel the same about Hoid I feel also this way towards Renarin, but to a lesser extend. I usually don't care about what people are being "mysterious" about unless I read their voice and start to feel sympathy for them. Mind, I don't feel sympathy for Ialai, but her motivations and goals are tangible, thus I root for her as a villain. But yeah, in the end we just have different preferences: this is fine. So maybe not void in personality, but just not really showing this personality? So all in all, I really don't like the "mysterious character" trope: I don't care about them. Give me their motivations, their thoughts, their objectives and I will root for them, but just leave for me to guess without having any valid clues and I will fall asleep
  11. Independently of gender, I personally find Ialai more interesting: she is a cunning woman Sadeas describes as dangerous in a world where women usually engage themselves into painting or music contests. She eats men's food, she ignores male/female decorum whenever in private and she is ruthless. It makes her far more interesting, to me as a reader, than Mraize whom I honestly do not care so much about (he has no personality). The mystery around him is about who he is and where he has been. That's not interesting to me, as a reader, as I am far more interested in personalities then "whom has been where and knows what". For me it is more: "whom has an interesting personality I wish to read about.". And yes, the fact she is a woman of power into a very male centrist story makes her even more interesting. Her becoming Highprince would be amazing just as it would be so interesting if she turned being a greater foe than Sadeas ever was.
  12. Actually I like the idea Ialai might be standing above Mraize. Also the fact she is a woman makes it even more interesting: the story has been very male centrist so far. Sadeas wanted to be king. I say Ialai wants to be queen.
  13. I don't think Jasnah is half as cunning as Ialai: she is smart, but Ialai is a master at what she does. Everyone fears her: Sadeas described her as "the most dangerous woman he ever met". I personally love the idea of a masterful villain they need a few books to take down, someone more tangible than "Odium" whom is just "plain evil". The story would be increasingly more interesting if she were using him and not the opposite.
  14. The big difference for me was how the various characters story arc changed focus. As I said, I just can't get involve in Kip's story line. He has way too many chapters, I find them boring to read. I guess in terms of world-building, the book is great, but it feels disconnected from the other two books. And Gavin.... Someone bring Gavin back. Teia's story arc is terribly slow paced and not really exciting: I don't care so much for what she does. As I said, I find Karris, Andross, Gavin and I would add Corvan to be the most interesting characters to read and to discover, but the author decided to focus almost solely on Kip and Teia which may be younger, but are terribly boring, IMHO. Oh and Kip reads too much like a Gary-Stu to be interesting. I had this problem with him in book 1, but book 2-3 got better, book 4 took a turn for the worst, still IMHO. I read WoT and I never had issues with the slower paced books. The world-building was amazing (and I am not even a world-building reader, but WoT is just WOW), I liked the characters and I wanted to know what would happen to them. So far Lightbringer's world is not coherent, it feels more like stuff the author plucked out of a hat because he thinks it looks cool in a battle scene whereas Jordan developed entire cultures together with lore. Yes, this. I have no idea where he is going with his story, he removed some of the viewpoints which were interesting to read. He also does the mistake of thinking his readers naturally root for Kip and want to read him because he is the young under-dog (though not really anymore), so by removing basically everyone else out of the story, he alienates readers who got into the book following Gavin and Karris. I am 70% into the book, the world-building is just too odd for me... It makes no sense.
  15. I haven't given an update of my reading of the Lightbringer series in a while... I am slugging through the Blood Mirror... So yeah, not a great book. I hope it gets better and it will be worth it in the end. It however suffers from not focusing onto the interesting characters.