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    Reading. Writing. Teaching. Playing games! Video games, board games, tugging at the strings that all people have so that they dance to my will.

    Not murdering people. I have developed a large number of strategies to NOT murder people. Some of my closest friends are equal parts relieved and horrified at the number of people I haven't killed. (There was a year there where they were concerned that the number of people I have killed would exceed 0. Then I quit my job, and everything has been better.)

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  1. Just keep in mind that this is very open to being changed, and as I recall, has changed at least once or twice already. There was a planned order for the books which has also already changed. One of Sanderson's greatest strengths as an author is the substantial amount of outlining work he has done for the series and books he writes; another one is how willing he is to change and adapt that outline as he progresses along it. I think that we won't see a book devoted to Adolin if only because he would be stuck giving a POV from events being covered by other characters, which is a major structural problem in most genres of storytelling. For it to happen he would have to be spending much time away from other POV characters, or directly take screen time away from them so that we see the scene from his point of view instead of theirs.
  2. Windrunner. Not really what I would have expected. There seems to be very heavy weight on Question 3: What Ideology is most powerful to you? I might be getting hung up on the use of the word ideology, because I can't even consider four of them as options since they don't fit my interpretation of the word (which might lend itself to me being somewhat inflexible, but thinking Justice is important, which would make me think Skybreaker--which is the MOST wrong). Fun quiz, though, and appreciate the effort that went into making it.
  3. Hey all, Not 100% sure this is the right place for this, apologies if it is not. I was wondering if anyone knows of any authors that have released the outlines that they used for their novels, or even a specific scene, so that it can be compared against the final product. I know that Sanderson has multiple versions of Warbreaker online (which is SUPER USEFUL!!!), but I am looking for one final specific link in the chain of things, if that makes sense.
  4. If you look at Hindu, the goddess triumvirate Tridevi comprises Mahasaraswati to Create, Mahalaxmi to Preserve, and Mahakali to Destroy. Such a triumvirate already exists within a current human religious system, and so I think it fits neatly (given Sanderson's propensity to borrow themes from the real world that fit well within his own)--especially since all 16 Shards have to fit together to create one Deific All-Being. It seems likely to me that there will be at least a few different axes that the Shards would lay upon, and would be the easiest to merge back together. So one axis would be Preservation/Cultivation/Ruin (and probably one other Shard as well). Honestly, in order to try and predict what the unknown Shards are, I would look to polytheistic religions, or religions that have very defined Aspects and Attributes of their deity. The Shards are portions of God, after all Given the strong duality implied by Hero of Ages is easily explained by the fact that only Preservation and Ruin were known about at all in the book. Greater knowledge of the Cosmere and its history are absent.
  5. In response to the OP, though, 50,000 breaths might not be THAT many. Create a culture where the dying donate their Breath before they go, throw in a healthy dash of nationalism, a pinch of fearmongering, and coat it all with the trappings of a pseudo-religion/cult, and depending on the population size it could be done in under a year. Maybe some hero-worship and prioritization of the Champion Savior over the individual or group. There are some similarities to this today already, but on an economic sense. The US military focuses on concentrating a significant amount of power (Breath) onto a relatively small number of Champions (military--specifically, the super-advanced air and naval superiority advantages) to protect the rest of the group. If you think of Breath as just another economic resource (which it is in-world, to an extent) then the more pressing question that I always had was, "Only 50,000? How tiny is that population?"
  6. Hi maxal, I still lurk around, but don't post all that much anymore--most of what I have to say has already been said One thing that I did forget to mention in the last post, though, is that I think it IS important for there to be a solid, relatable hero in the more traditional sense. Roshar is so alien that the majority of readers need to have that something that is normal, to use as a reference point. I'm very eagerly awaiting Oathbringer, where I assume we will get to see a comparison of a traditional hero with an anti-hero (The Blackthorn). Although, that might be a better fit for a different thread.
  7. Cam here to say this. Saw it was already said.
  8. Her actions have been heroic, but she hasn't had a moment of heroism like Kaladin (or Dalinar, or Renarin) have had. In Western culture, and especially for the US (I can't speak for others, so very possibly much more) the concept of a hero is very directly tied in with someone who very physically stands against evil/darkness/the antagonist and does not back down. Shallan's gifts aren't so very strong in this area, and so she has played to her strengths instead. The scenes where she is finding the Gate and activating it and saving everyone could have been written as her moment of badass heroism--but they weren't. On an emotional impact, Adolin's duel in the Storm was stronger, let alone Kaladin's fight with Szeth which stood head and shoulders higher than any other character's climactic arc in SA so far. So people that are already put off by her lies see her essentially running away from the fight, fleeing--while Kaladin the Straightforward meets and kills The Evil while flying in the sky. It will always be hard for any other character to compare with Kaladin as far as how relatable/sympathetic they are simply because of the amount of screen-time that he gets and how integral he is to the series, combined with acting very similarly to how we would expect a traditional hero to act (when he's not being Broody McAngst). Shallan not getting a single scene where she gets to be the unalloyed hero will always make her seem less heroic, and by comparison, not a hero. Dalinar was established as a hero early on when he wrestled with the Chasmfiend to save Elhokar. Renarin entered the pit to save his brother. Adolin has a number of small scenes as well, but perhaps the point where he murders Sadeas is my favorite--he sees that Sadeas being left alive is evil, and so he acts upon it, but then also reacts with horror at what he did. I absolutely love Shallan as a character, and I love Sanderson as an author, but he hasn't done her any favors to readers that aren't predisposed to see someone as a hero for smiling and laughing rather than curling into a ball and crying until the world ends. (Also, holy cow, reading through this thread brought back some memories. And I wrote this response before I re-read any of the posts, so meh if I ended up repeating myself )
  9. I am doing NaNoWriMo this year, too! For those that have had problems in the past, the #1 best way that I have found to stay motivated is through the use of write-ins. These are magical things where people that you may or may not know gather in a neutral setting (like Starbucks, or the mall, or a bar) and spend the time focusing on writing and writing-related issues. One of the common aspects of write-ins is the use of something called a 'word war.' Although you're allowed (and encouraged!) to write throughout the duration of the write-in, during a word-war everyone shuts up and concentrates on just writing, nothing but writing, as fast as they can. These usually last 5-7 minutes. They are fantastic ways to get words on page and ideas written down (and also some of the most epic typos ever. I have a friend who should honestly publish a work of her typos, because it is freaking HILARIOUS.) My user-name is kaellok on the NaNo page, feel free to add me as a writing buddy. And if you're in the Seattle area, I know all the best write-ins with the best people. Oh, and if you're shy or agoraphobic but still want a little bit of the write-in feel, Seattle has an IRC chatroom devoted to just this. Including NaNoBot, who is a single-minded, uncaring machine that forces you to write. You can check out the details at http://nanowrimo.org/forums/usa-washington-seattle/threads/385180.
  10. Please consider my upvote as a hug. And have another one here, too.
  11. To the first: that's my very point. As I understand it, unless he was given a timeframe to work within, then he had courses of action available that would have allowed him to uphold both laws. He chose not to, in order to perfectly uphold the single law of the Shin (obey the holder of the oathstone). Presumably, the Shin have laws against murder as well, so he'd technically be breaking those, too. And, it's this lack/failure that makes it so unlikely for a highspren to have come along to bond with him prior to now. To the second: It's unclear exactly how Nightblood would go about killing a spren. It's possible that Nightblood could cleave through one (I recall a WoB to this effect, but have had trouble finding it again.) It's also possible that the natural Investiture-stealing inherent to Nightblood would spread to any spren that have manifested on the Physical Realm; it seems significantly less likely to affect the Cognitive or Spiritual, although I'm not aware of any WoB specifically referencing this. The Nahel Bond is specifically what happens when a spren bonds with someone to create a Surgebinder. Spren are Splinters; Nightblood is a Splinter. There are certain similarities in how things work, but not necessarily in the outcomes. Edit: found a couple of WoB regarding Nightblood, adding them here just 'cuz they're interesting.
  12. snippity snip! Nale is quite, quite mad--along with probably all of the Heralds. They all seem to have turned into twisted versions of themselves. Also, the group that he's with don't seem to be Radiants at all, but just a collection of people. I do believe that this group, that are not Radiants but calling themselves Skybreakers, would absolutely accept Szeth purely on the say-so of Nale. From the little we see of them, they don't seem to be keen on questioning him, or thinking for themselves, but instead just mindlessly obeying--although this might just be me. I just don't see any group that actually cares about the Second Ideal of the Radiant Skybreakers accepting him because of his actions thus far. (Because words are funny, I don't think that his previous actions will preclude the possibility of joining in the future; I simply think that he has yet to show true devotion to following/upholding the law--especially since he had chances and occasions where it seems that he had occasions where he could have and didn't, didn't even try.) If there's some Law above all the others that this Ideal is referring to, and Szeth happens to accidentally be following it and petty laws of individual nations that include the like of 'murder' and 'assassination' and 'burglary' and 'theft' and 'vandalism' and 'destruction of property' and 'assault' don't count, then maybe you and all of the many, many others that think as you do are right. I'm just not seeing it, though; I'm seeing hints at something much, much deeper. (I mean, it's either that, or a story that doesn't ring true to me and is deeply unsatisfying to me--and Sanderson has yet to do that )
  13. tl;dr: Szeth has been upholding a law at the expense of all others. If this attracted a Highspren, then they aren't nearly as concerned with the law as the Skybreaker's Second Ideal would imply. Let's go with what I think you're saying here for a moment. (Apologies if I have this wrong.) Claim: The law is to obey the holder of the oathstone. Szeth obeys this law. Because Szeth obeys this law, he should/could have attracted a Highspren. Counter: Szeth killed people in Azir. Many, many times. He is referred to as a desolation, as a force of nature. This heavily implies that the killings were not, in any way, lawful. Nalan, while there, has gone through the steps to ensure that his own killings are lawful in nature--which means that it's a possibility that could happen. That there is a route for these to take. That Szeth could have obtained the permission to slaughter the nation's leader through legal channels, and this would have been following the dictates of the holder of his oathstone unless the holder also specifically forbade him to do so. So, we arrive at a conundrum: either Szeth broke the law by not following the law on his own, or Szeth broke the law by following a different law. Either way, Szeth broke the law. It makes zero actual sense for Szeth to be included in a group that believes in upholding the law above all else. Szeth chose which law to uphold and obey, which means he also willfully chose to break others (unless there is some type of magical coercion or compulsion placed upon the oathstone, but there's really no evidence of that being the case.) It doesn't matter that to uphold the one law, he had to break the others--the Skybreakers are concerned with upholding the law, not of dealing with the consequences when it is impossible to uphold the law. It is possible for it to be impossible to uphold the law (this absolutely happens in the real world within just the US; I see no reason for it to be any different in a fantasy world involving multiple nations). The Skybreakers don't seem to be very forgiving to people who break the law, and so should show no mercy towards Szeth. I think he has a very different fate in store. It seems very likely to me that Nalan is continuing to twist and abuse the laws of nations to create circumstances and events that are favorable to his plans (whatever they may be.)
  14. 1. Mr T's conversation says that Heleran would be able to train a potential Surgebinder if he found one, which merely implies that he'd be able to know one when found--Heleran-as-Surgebinder-himself is actually not implied at all, but rather assumed (it's a reasonable assumption taken by itself, but the other evidence present suggests otherwise.) You'll remember that Kaladin was the Surgebinder, and yet it was (shoot, I forget his name) who was helping guide him through his training. And Kaladin's Bridge 4 friend was able to do this training because of his former membership in one of the oh-so-many secret societies in Roshar. Since Heleran was also in a secret society of Roshar, he could have access to the same types/kinds of information and have been attempting to provide the same kind of guidance. 2. There's a Words of Brandon compiled thread that was being maintained/updated for a time here that answers the question. There's another page entirely that has a much larger database, but I can never remember what it is and my Google-fu is failing me due to 330am.