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Hello all, As we all know, until recently, the Shin had possession of nine out of ten Honorblades. They Lost Nale's when he stole it back (breaking the oath to leave them behind. Shame Nale, shame) and they lost Jezrien's when Szeth got taken out. We get an inkling as to how they find them in the first place during Dalinar's visions. When he brings Jasnah and Navani into the vision of the "final" battle, and they see Jezrien declare that it is over, the desolations have ended forever, they see the ring of nine blades, and they see a Shin scout find the blades first. It is not a huge leap to see the Shin declaring themselves the guardians of these blades and spiriting them off quietly. Especially seeing as we have direct confirmation from Szeth that they have them all, and he has trained with all of the surges. Then the Shin go on to become one of the most peaceful societies on Roshar, valuing those that add over those that take away. While they train warriors with the blades, they consider them to be the lowest rank in society. But they still train them. As a whole, they are isolationist, and rarely venture outside of their lands. I assume mostly to avoid violating the prohibition against walking on stone or interacting with the more other societies on Roshar. Except that one time they invaded. At some point in the past, the Shin invaded the rest of Roshar, for some reason. This was mentioned a few times in Oathbringer, the first instance I believe was in chapter 2. Why would they do this? Why would an isolationist culture that elevates farmers and artisans above all else decide to go to war with the rest of the world? Because the core of their society decided 4500 years ago that they, the Shin, would self appoint themselves the sole guardians and protectors of the Honorblades. Keeping them safe and out of circulation, not being used, until the Herald's ostensibly return to reclaim them. Who knows how much death and destruction they avoided by hiding them away from the world. They managed this secret for hundreds of years, peacefully. Until something changed that forced them to invade. I think that something was the Recreance. Dalinar saw in his vision of Feverstone Keep that hundreds of sets of Plate and Blade were dropped that day, far more than is currently in circulation. Enough to plunge the world into endless war over them. And most of them disappeared, so only a handful remain. Those that remain are high profile items, with detailed histories. But only recently (the last few hundred years) did scholars discover that they could add a gem to the hilt to allow a bearer to bond the blade, allowing them to summon and dismiss them at will. I think that the Shin invasion happened after the Recreance, but before bearers could bond their blades. I think the purpose of the invasion was that the Shin view themselves as the guardians of the Herald's blades and the Radiant's blades, and they invaded to take the blades and plate out of circulation. I think they are sitting on a stockpile that they will never use, to keep the rest of the world from destroying themselves. I think they stole as much as they could, and killed where they had to to get these. And then they retreated to their lands with their hidden stockpile, to wait for the return of the Heralds and Radiants, to keep the weapons safe. And they bunkered down. Complete Isolation. They don't leave, and let no one in. During Rysn's Interlude in WoK, it is mentioned that no outsider may progress beyond a certain point by either her or Vstim (I think, I will look for confirmation of that in that interlude). The rest of the world does not suspect they have them, because anyone else would have used them with pride, but the Shin view it as a shame, so they hid the blades and they disappeared from history. Then Szeth being declared Truthless takes on another light. If they are guarding that large a stockpile, thousands of weapons worth kingdoms, against the return of the Herald's and Radiants, having someone start saying they are back is a Big Deal. They don't want to flood the world with that much destructive power. They are afraid to. Far easier to outcast the single voice out of fear and keep their heads buried. They are watching for the return of Radiance, and terrified by what it would mean. The Shin have been preparing for this Desolation since the last one, but they don't want it to be true. They have been on high alert for thousands of years hoping this would never come, and are trying to find any valid reason to deny that it is hear, because it would mean they have to unleash death upon the world, when they value life. They are terrified, and they have all the shardblades. What do you think? Are the Shin a good candidate for possessing the missing blades? Was the Shin Invasions a cover for recovering the blades and plate left by the Recreance? Or am I off base? And I apologize if someone else already thought of and mentioned this elsewhere. I have not seen it posted, so I hope I'm original, but it would not surprise me if someone else got there first.

Lord Sif Tormander entered the north barracks as surreptitiously as he knew how to. That is too say, he tossed a large black cloak on over everything else, and slouched. His disguise prevented people from knowing whether it was him, or an assassin Still, it hardly mattered. The barracks were barren, the guards were out patrolling the walls of the keep. But the captain could be found here. His office was at the back of the room, which served to prevent the soldiers from getting too rowdy He knocked politely at the door. A gruff voice called for him to enter, so he pushed the door open, and slipped in. “Ah! Lord Sif! How may I be of service sir?” Captain Rhiannon Aurette stood and saluted. Once again, Sif reflected on the oddity of having a Female as their captain of the guard. But she was a highly skilled Pewterarm “I’ve received information that one of the Heatherlocke’s is sending assassins at us. I need you to, detain him, just for a bit. No violence necessary, just posturing.” Rhiannon banged one mailed fist against here breastplate. “It will be done my lord. I’ll get a detachment together immediately.” She stood, and walked from the room, leaving him alone. He sighed, and left as well. He had more to do tonight, if he was to escape Locke’s traps. Quetzal looked at his hand in bemusement. A red 6 and 7, a yellow draw 2, and a green reverse. But Count Olaf had just played a blue 9, so none of his cards worked. “Remind me, if i have to draw, do i draw until i have a card i can play?” “Nah,” Taswell slid the top card off the deck to him. “Just one, but you can play it if possible.” “Hmm,” He picked up the card, and upon finding it to be a green 4, shook his head. “Your move Lord Elbereth.” Lord Elbereth slammed a green 9 on top of the deck, making the other 5 players jump, while he simultaneously yelled out “Uno!” The rest of the Ffnord nobility groaned as Elbereth proudly displayed his single card. “Remind me why you guys are playing cards instead of making War?” Quetzal asked. (Jonas played a green skip card, making Remart swear.) “Eh. Bad for business and friendship.” Taswell shrugged as he played a wild card. “Blue by the way.” “And why did you invite me to play?” Count Olaf tossed down a blue 7, and Quetzal responded with his red 7. “Ah, we heard on the grapevine that some Heron assassins were coming for you. According to our guards, our hazekillers are engaging them now.” Lord Elbereth sighed. “And, i have to draw. Your turn Jonas.” Jonas played a red 3 down. “Alright then.” Quetzal shrugged, and continued to play. Lord Sif Tormander trudged back from the barracks to the main keep, reviewing the days events in his head. He had blundered badly, letting the other Tormanders realize he was working against them. Since then, he had been running around putting out fire after fire, making promise after promise. Still, it would all be worth it if he survived, which he should, unless half a dozen of his sources of information were all wrong about what the Heatherlockes were doing tonight. “Ahem, heya Sif.” Sif paused, then looked up into the branches of the tree above him. Several nobles were crouching there, including Edrab Leah, a noted Heatherlocke Seeker. “How you doing Sify pal?” Sif bolted. He heard the leaves rustle behind him as assassins jumped from the tree. “Assassins! Assassins in the Courtyard!” curiously, none of the guards responded. Just glancing at him then glancing away. “Bya Sify old pal.” Edrab’s voice came from behind him, and then something hit him hard in the back of the head. “Lord Locke. I would have a word with you.” Locke Tormander idly looked up at his cousin. “Yes Quetzal? I was informed you were at the Ffnord’s. What brings you back so soon?” “Attempted Murder. The Heron’s sent a crack team of allomancers to kill me. But the good Ffnords’ Hazekillers saved my life.” Locke looked back down at the the hundreds of letters he was writing to himself. “As eternally glad as i am that you survived cousin, may i ask why you saw fit to tell me about this?” Quetzal pulled a chair up across from Locke’s desk, disturbing a mountain of poetry that Locke had plagiarized and mailed to himself. “Considering the fact that as i came home, I saw the aftermath of the Heatherlocke’s assassination of Cousin Sif, i am wondering if you have heard anything in your extensive, hard to hide, PM Network.” Locke scowled. “I haven’t heard anything about a plot by one of the Tormanders to wipe out the rest of us in one foul swoop. Trust me, I’ve been listening for one. Is there anything else?” “Not yet. But I need to ask some questions of people, and if i hear something i don’t like Locke, i will be back.” Quetzal left Locke to his studies and walked back to his room, reflecting on the events of the night. He had been attacked, but had been saved. But why had either happened? He walked up to his room and saw a figure standing outside his door. He called out "Hey, who are you?" The figure turned, and smiled softly at him. "My name is Wurum Heron, and you and I have a date i believe." "Oh Rust." Quetzal turned to run, but Wurum was faster, snaking forward and grabbing him by the Neck. He lifted him from the floor, kicking and gurgling, and threw him out a nearby stained glass window. He screamed as he fell the four floors down to the cobblestone path below, hitting with a sickening crunch. MegaSif was killed by the Heatherlockes! Straw was attacked by the Tormanders, but survived! Lopen was Killed by the Herons! The Day will end in Player List: (Eternum) Auden Ostlin Heatherlocke (Walin) Dbec Heatherlocke (Steeldancer) Leets Heatherlocke (Araris Valerian) Hadrian Heatherlocke (Straw) Straw Heatherlocke (Sart) Taswell Ffnord (Jondesu) RemartFfnord (Living Legend) Jonas Ffnord (Shanerockes) Lebereth Ffnord (Fifth Scholar) Count Olaf Ffnord (Stick) Stick Heron (Crimsn Wolf) Altea Meza Heron (Mafia) Ivan Heron (Devotary of Spontaneity) Lord Grumbles Heron (Mage Star) Magus Astrum Heron (Orlok Tsubodai) Locke Tormander (Droughtbringer) Boseph Jush Tormander (Bugsy) Bugsy Tormander

Ooh I want to die too! A Joe in the Bush. My case against Joe is threefold. First, most of his posts have been in RP. While I appreciate RP and it’s quite elegant, especially his, Joe’s tendency to put characters dying and potential in-game information into his posts makes it very difficult to discern his motives. Also, he’s been portraying some of the characters in his RP doing some very anachronistic activities, such as having the very fine dinner Olaf was having turn into an Uno game. This is likely a way of sending secret messages to certain players, and I would like him to tell us which players are secretly being signaled. Otherwise, the whole thing looks fishy. Second is his PM behavior. While I’ve made an effort to include Joe in every PM I’ve made in this game, he has yet to respond to one of them except a brief interruption to correct a grammatical mistake. This suggests to me that Joe is playing hard-to-get, and doesn’t want to reveal his intentions in front of a large group of people. However, he’s contacted me in an individual PM, so he’s clearly not incapable of speech in PMs. I’d like to know what he’s planning, which is secretive enough so that he can’t voice his concerns in front of a large group of people, but then he suddenly finds his voice when talking one-on-one. But of course he never talks about plans, just reports on actions and rules questions. And that’s all he’s been doing in my house doc too. Speaking of my house doc, he’s in it, but I never see him talking about how much he wants to betray us, and I don’t think he even sent in an action last cycle. He’s not even listed under the members of our house despite being in our doc, which may be a GM error, but I think a doc-spying role is a greater possibility. I didn’t mean to out Joe like that, but I definitely would like an explanation for why he’s been snooping around in PMs and docs, and I think revealing a possible role he might hold is a small price to pay for the information we might gain if he responds. Third and finally, he seems to know information others don’t have access to. For instance this post Shows how Joe seems to get important info about who is attacked and killed before the rest of us do. And that’s dangerous, because think of all the information he could be holding back from us as we speak. Sorry Joe, but you definitely look the most suspicious right now, and I think you deserve immediate lynching attention, no matter what house you or anyone else may be in. @A Joe in the Bush, care to respond to these accusations?

The purpose was to show both a bit of world building, and Karma. Sheler, the man being bound to "wrestle the Hog" was the company leader of the troop that sent Tien to die. In Kal's flashback to Tien's death he finds out that Tien has been pulled into fighting in "Sheler's company."

So, I feel duty bound to weigh in since this has grown to 7 freaking pages. Oathbringer is my favorite book of all times, and the Stormlight Archives is my favorite series of all time. Brandon doesn't concern himself with things as common as linear progression, each of the SLA books has been geometrically better than the previous installment. The Way of Kings was masterful, Words of Radiance was TWoK^2 and Oathbringe was WoR^4. This is a very large book, and my only real complaint with this book is that it wasn't longer. The Dalinar flashbacks are the best series of flashbacks in any of the SLA books, and there was never a moment in this book where I wasn't dying to turn the page and find out more. That is masterful storytelling. Most of the criticisms of this book are purely in the negative, focusing on what didn't happen in OB. This also seems like a criticism that I can agree with, namely that Oathbringer wasn't long enough. I've yet to read a book where Brandon didn't deliver a satisfying and surprising conclusion to a long hinted at mystery. I think the version of the Recreance that we got in OB was only the details of the actual event that were tailor made to drive a wedge in between Dalinar and the members of the coalition. All of the details that were revealed were set in motion by Taravangian, and we know his primary motive was to undermine Dalinar so that he could take over leadership of the coalition. I think the details hinted at in the Gem archive are closer to the real reason for the Recreance, and we've basically only seen, to draw a parallel to MB, Alendi's path to being the hero of ages. I think there is, as Kelsier would say, always another secret. The onion of the Recreance still has some layers to be peeled before we get to the true reason. A lot of people seem to be upset by the perceived lack of progression of Kaladin and Shallan, but I think that their story arcs in OB were brilliant. The Girl Who looked up with the continuation of the Girl Who Stood Up is one of the most powerful allegories I have ever read, when Hoid tells a broken Shallan that what sets her apart is that she is the one who stood up, I was deeply moved. This is powerful stuff, and though she wasn't magically fixed by this revelation, it was an important object lesson to learn, that the world is better place because of the fact that even after failing she stands up and keeps trying to make the world a better place. That is progression along a meaningful moral dimension. Kaladin likewise struggles with his inability to swear an oath because he's not sure he can swear this oath and actually believe in it. I personally think this has something to do with realizing that he can't save everyone, and his inability to believe that this is true about himself is one of his greatest virtues as a hero. I hope that he's a Windrunner frozen at the 3rd Ideal, who continues to try and save everyone and feel deeply when he is unable to do so, this is what makes him who is, this is the thing about him that I think is truly heroic, and I hope that he doesn't trade his ideals in for a set of plate. We got tons of information about the Unmade, we got to see the Unmade manifest in 2 realms, and the Battle of Thaylen Fields was epic and incredibly well told. I don't mean to hijack this thread with abundant praise for OB, but I do think that criticizing Oathbringer is like looking at Ghiberti's Gates of Paradise after only 3 of the reliefs were done and criticizing the whole door because it's mostly unadorned. We are only 3 books into what is the most Epic of all Epic fantasy, and I have every confidence in BWS's ability to give the most epic fantasy series ever written the most epic and satisfying ending that has ever been.

The morality of Adolin's killing of Sadeas aside, I don't know if either of the four murders (one by Adolin and three by Shallan) would actually be outside of Kaladin's oaths. Shallan was protecting herself in two out of the three (mother and Tyn), which is self-defense and not a violation of protecting others (Kaladin's oaths so far.) There is a strong argument that Shallan's killing of her father was protecting others - her brothers and future servants/wives of Lin. With Adolin, one of the main arguments for its morality is that Adolin had to do it to protect his father/men from future harm which could be caused by Sadeas. Kaladin knows about Shallan's murder of her father, and actually thinks better of her for it, which argues it doesn't contradict his own sensibilities. (Contra the way he reacts to Jasnah in OB and her thought process.) That being said, "Shadolin works because they are both murderers" may be one of my favorite reasons for liking the pairing ever! You do realize Shadolin is the opposing ship in this triangle, right? And the one you're currently shipping? But Adolin didn't need to "play" the part of a lighteyes; he is one. If anything, he was "playing" a slightly lower dahn lighteyes - General Kahl's son - so it would make more sense had he been in uniform or something more practical. (Kahl, being a Kholin solder, I am assuming dressed in uniform due to the codes like all the rest of Dalinar's men.) It remains to be seen whether Adolin's love of fashion is just an amusing quirk, or if there's something deeper regarding frivolity, outward appearance, or some other connection, but even stalwart Adolin fans have noted his obsession with fashion while in Kholinar (and Shadesmar) seems at odds with what was happening. (Btw, Kaladin wasn't playing a soldier (he is one), but he was playing a lighteyes.) This is one of the more frustrating aspects of the triangle for me; why introduce it at all and then not even allow it to be explored? (I get for some people they liked that aspect though, because it was different than a typical romantic arc.) It will always make Shadolin feel like a false choice to me though. I don't feel like one discussion (which had maybe one line of mild flirtation?) is taking a chance though. Kaladin never voices his feelings for Shallan to her. Shallan does seem to take it for granted that she could have Kaladin if she wanted to, though I've mentioned before the fact I'm not convinced she's actually sure about his feelings. At least I find it hard to think she would be sure given the fact he doesn't act on anything. It's been pointed out before that Kaladin and Shallan have opposing ways of dealing with their suffering, so in that respect they could help balance out each other's reactions. (We actually see Shallan do this by telling Kaladin to snap out of his gloom in the chasms, as you mention.) Kaladin though definitely drops the ball in this respect in OB. Again it's potential that was teased... and then came to nothing. Well... if you read just Adolin's viewpoints, there is a decided lack of emotion towards/thinking about Shallan, so maybe his taking a step back is more indicative of his feelings for her... I agree that it's not the usual reaction to your fiance showing some interest in another man (if you indeed want to marry them.) Fighting for your own relationship is definitely different than deciding not to insert yourself in an existing relationship. This is by far the most popular human ship for Kaladin (Jasnadin), so plenty of people have gone way down this path before! (I don't know where it ranks in terms of Syl/Kaladin (Syladin), another extremely popular ship.) Considering we know from Brandon that Veil is just Shallan with a mask on (all of her masks are just this, including her prim Vorin princess one), this is actually Adolin treating Shallan herself as a drinking buddy. Here's Brandon talking about Shallan's masks on reddit, if that's of interest to you.

CLARIFICATION: I am having a spikeload of fun with the writeups, and since a few players, (And the GM) have approached me about their parts in them, i feel the need to clarify. I am taking massive creative liberties with the writeups. The only things in the writeups that should be taken as 100% GM confirmed information are attacks and deaths. everything else happens because of something i half remember reading in one of the dozens of PM's, and/or i think it would make a funny writeup. Also, if you would like to die in a specific way, place, or circumstance, please PM Elbereth and I. If you would like one of your past characters to cameo in the writeup, please PM Elbereth and I.

Thank you, @A Budgie, for this wonderfully versatile screenshot.

I've been thinking up some Kaladin memes lately

After months of changed release dates it's out.

Howdy everyone! I have read all of Brandon Sanderson's books, and have even browsed the forums here from time to time, but was waiting till I finished Oathbringer (via audiobook) to create an account. I'm looking forward to discussing some theories, but I have some questions: Does anyone have tips on the best way to use the search function? I would love to cut straight to some good threads about certain topics I am interested in, but it seems like when I search for key words, there are a lot of non-relevant threads to wade through. Recommendations would be appreciated! Topics I am interested in checking out: Theories on Adonalsium & the Shattering Locations of the known Shards Locations of the Heralds in SA Hoid/Wit Stormfather's siblings The Unmade Zahel/Vasher

URGENT: Quetzal left Locke to his studies and walked back to his room, reflecting on the events of the night. He had been attacked, but had been saved. But why had either happened? He walked up to his room and saw a figure standing outside his door. He called out "Hey, who are you?" The figure turned, and smiled softly at him. "My name is Wurum Heron, and you and I have a date i believe." "Oh Rust." Quetzal turned to run, but Wurum was faster, snaking forward and grabbing him by the Neck. He lifted him from the floor, kicking and gurgling, and threw him out a nearby stained glass window. He screamed as he fell the four floors down to the cobblestone path below, hitting with a sickening crunch. The indispensable Elbereth has realized that we didn't account for all actions, and the hazekillers that protected Lopen, should have failed. So Lopen is Dead, killed by a Heron. Bye Lopen! We'll miss you!

This is really interesting to read the disappointment with Oathbringer. I don't know, maybe the book really clicked for me, but for me personally I did find Oathbringer superior to both Way of Kings and Words of Radiance, and in my opinion it isn't close. I stand by everything I said in the 17th Shard review. I tended to find Way of Kings a lot more filler than killer, whereas Oathbringer goes nearly too fast with killer. It's been a few months since I've read Oathbringer. Maybe my thoughts will change in a few more months after I've absorbed the feedback, but I really loved Oathbringer, and it is my favorite book straight up. I never really felt the middle dragged. Every locale we went to was compelling. But I dunno, IronBars, maybe we are just different people with different tastes, because I thought Words of Radiance to be much better than Way of Kings. I remember when that book came out I read a review that said nothing happened in Words of Radiance, which was very confusing to me. IronBars is certainly entitled to his opinion though even though I disagree with most every point he made, but again, different people have different tastes and that's okay! I find it interesting you liked Moash whereas many really hated Moash sections. (I liked them a lot too.)

Oathbringer may work as a part of a larger series, but as a standalone novel it stumbles just shy of the finish line. I think calling OB a superior product compared to WoK and WoR is overcompensating for the criticism the book has received. It's as if some people treat criticism of Oathbringer as nothing else than an opportunity to ignore said criticism and drown it under their adulation. For one thing, I think it's kind of redundant to say that most critiques of Oathbringer focused on what wasn't there. Yes, that is always a part of criticism. It's also a bit misleading, as there is a lot to say about the plodding pacing of the entire middle section of the book right up to the end of the Shadesmar sequence, its bloated length, its (compared to earlier books) seemingly missing character arcs and so on. Most criticisms I've seen indeed focus on the plodding pace, the bloated length compared to a relatively small amount of character arc progression. Set-up is all fine and good, but whereas WoK and WoR managed to set up future plot points, unlike OB they also managed to have several self-contained arcs for all of the main cast instead of just one. And seemingly incoherent plot points like the Recreance.

To repeat what's already been said in different words, "character development" does not mean improvement. Yes, Shallan regressed. And? This isn't a power up anime. We aren't trying to see what the next super sayan level is.

Disagree on pretty much everything. Kaladin is one of many "main characters" and it was nice to not have this book boiled down to Kaladin saves the day. And without digging into every point... There was a lot of character development in this book. Just because it didn't go in a direction you expected/wanted doesn't mean it wasn't there. Dalinar and Shallan both had major development. Dalinar is a more complete character and had to fight to maintain who he is in his own eyes because of it. Shallan is arguably not the same character as she was at the start of the book. Those kind of changes are character development. Edit: and no, Oathbringer isn't the story I thought it would be. And that's a fantastic thing. If a writer only gives me the story I expect what's the point?

Personally, I find Oathbringer to be the least compelling of the Stormlight Archive so far. If anyone wants to read why I think this, let me know and I'll post a more detailed list of my pros and cons. With this post, I'd rather explain my theory for why this book is so divisive. It's about broken promises. Only implied promises, not explicit ones; but broken nevertheless. Compare these two situations. At the end of The Way of Kings, readers were implicitly promised: 1) That Kaladin would join with Dalinar and help him continue his duty on the Shattered Plain. 2) That Dalinar would bring the Vengeance Pact to an end, or at least make great strides in doing so. 3) That Shallan and Jasnah would reach the Shattered Plain and start interacting with the other cast. 4) That Szeth would be sent after Dalinar, and thus come into conflict with Dalinar and Kaladin. 5) That Adolin and Shallan would begin courting. All of these were promised, and all of these promises were fulfilled in Words of Radiance. (Well, Jasnah got a bit lost along the way, but these sorts of plot twists are perfectly acceptable.) Now compare this to what happened in Oathbringer. At the end of Words of Radiance, readers were implicitly promised: 1) That Kaladin would rush to Hearthstone and either avert the crisis or deal with its aftermath. (Turns out, there was no crisis, and he was in Hearthstone for all of about five minutes. Somewhat anticlimactic.) 2) That Shallan would interact further with the Ghostbloods and we would learn more of their means and motivations. (This did not happen.) 3) That Jasnah would join up with some of the other characters, armed with important new information from the highspren and/or Hoid. (Jasnah did rejoin, but not so much the "new information" thing.) 4) That Navani and/or Shallan would plumb the secrets of Urithiru. (Marginal success here. We the readers know almost nothing more about Urithiru than we did a book ago, but they did do some plumbing.) 5) That Dalinar would learn more of the Knights Radiant, including the reason for the Recreance. (This happened, but whether or not it happened satisfactorily probably depends on each individual reader's satisfaction with the given explanation for the Recreance. 6) That Adolin and/or team Dalinar would suffer some consequences from Sadeas' murder. (This did not happen.) 7) That Moash would join the Diagramists. (This did not happen.) 8) That Bridge Four would continue on the path to squire-hood/Radiance. (This happened, and in spades. Probably the only out-of-the-park home run on the list, IMHO.) Well, there were a number of other promises as well -- I for one feel rather annoyed about what happened with Eshonai and don't feel that Venli is at all an acceptable replacement -- but for convenience I've only listed the main promises about the main cast. When you compare the 100% promise-completion-rate from The Way of Kings with the 25-50% completion rate of those promises made at the end of Words of Radiance, it's not surprising that plenty of readers aren't as happy with Oathbringer as they were with the previous book(s). How happy you are with Oathbringer probably depends on how happy you were with the arcs we got instead. For instance, I was actually fine with Kaladin's nonexistent Hearthstone arc...but I can totally sympathize with the readers who feel that Oathbringer didn't have as much Kaladin-being-awesome as they anticipated.

While I get that you're agreeing on the deserving part, I have to go on my standard rant about Adolin being broken... Or would have if The One Who Connects hadn't just linked multiple threads containing my rant.

I'm not sure you want to do that. Have the rabbit hole itself: September 2nd(Side Discussion): [OB] SO GLAD HE'S DEAD November 19th: [OB] A certain character needing to be broken enough to become a radiant December 2nd: [OB] Adolin's breaking December 3rd: [OB] An argument for becoming a Stoneward December 4th: [OB] The problem with Adolin January 24th: [OB] Adolin, a potential Edgedancer? Several Times between Pages 4-15: [OB] Mayalaran At least Three Times, but I'm not searching 96 Pages: [OB] Adolin-Shallan-Kaladin Discussion Go and have a read, maybe two. If you still feel there's something to discuss, please do.

I just completed my first day in my first ever job!

All of the Shards that we have seen so far have been invested in a Planetary Sphere to at least some degree, apart from one big player. The big O. Odium has moved between systems destroying a number of shards, after splintering Devotion and Dominion on Sel he moved to Roshar where he facilitated the destruction of Ashyn and gave Honor and Cultivation time to set up a plan, I believe the plan involved bogging down Odium in a prolonged conflict forcing him to Invest on the nearby sphere Braize, he was then bound there by the Oathpact, his influence on Roshar limited and his escape from the system prevented. The importance of a shards relation to their Sphere has been underrated so far in my opinion, have nothing to back it up as there is very little info regarding interstellar shardic or other wise travel yet just a feeling The plan came not without cost and binding Odium to Braize killed Honor... we still don't really know or understand how Honor was killed, he existed during a number of desolations seemingly went mad and then suddenly met his demise post final desolation I believe? (correct me if I'm wrong there) anyway been a long time reader here (usually while at work ><) first post, its been a quiet day let me know what you guys think

I'll level with you, Oathbringer was just a little bit underwhelming. I would even go as far as to say that it is currently the weakest installment in the Stormlight Archive. But that's more because the first two books set the bar really, really high. Oathbringer was still an excellent read. I would not agree with the claim that it lacked character development, though I might agree that it had less character development than either of the previous two books. It's really hard to pace a book in the middle of a series (Well of Ascension, anyone? Although seriously the ending makes up for the pacing in the middle). It also doesn't help that I feel OB had a lot more hype than the last two. And as Hoid once said, expectation is the soul of art. So yeah. Even if I did not feel Oathbringer was quite as good as the last two, I'd still definitely rate 5/5.

He'll become the Resident Blade-Whisperer, Adolin Kholin!

AG4/AN1 - Night 12: Smoke The Man in Sage Clothing sat happily, balanced on the tippity top of the gallows. He was whistling, whittling, whistling as he whittled a piece of wood. He had evaded the villagers the previous night, and though they had made valiant attempts to keep him under house arrest, no house could contain him. Odium had granted him powers beyond their wildest dreams. He had been sad to see Kharsis die; It had been his intent to keep him alive as long as possible. He was fun, he played the game, not like all the others. But, what Odium commanded, the Man carried out. And so, Kharsis had gone up in flames. He was a little annoying, anyway. “Well, looks like we’re out of options.” Crocodile said, looking around nervously. “We’ve just gotta kill that guy over there, now.” “I think we should kill him too.” The Zebra muttered. “Just look at him, up there, smiling, whistling. We know he’s evil. And he’s giving me the creeps.” “He is the last one left.” the Chameleon noted, speaking up for once. “Lets get him!” The Man in Sage Clothing shook his head, giggling softly. No noose could catch him. No blades could touch him. The few villagers remaining could never hope to overpower him. But still they rushed at him, holding assorted weapons and other such cutlery. Foolish villagers. One of them took out a spear, and threw it at The Man in Sage Clothing. Laughing, he raised a finger, shaking it at them. Light flowed from the pack on his back, caressing him, flowing around him, filling him. He inhaled Light, drinking deeply of its power. His eyes glowed with it, the Light, a fiery strength. He grinned. He pointed his finger. Light snapped out from his hand, striking the spear mid-flight, and it turned to smoke in the air. More spears flew, but met the same fate as the first, each dissolving into smoke before they ever touched the Man in Sage. The air quickly grew thick, the villagers coughing, the air reminiscent of how it had been the night before. The Man in Sage was cackling now, laughing madly, his eyes brighter than ever. Light surrounded him. The villagers stood back, frightened by the man, befuddled by the smoke, unsure what to do next. “This is true power!” The Man screamed at them, watching them flinch backwards as he stepped fowards. “This is the power of Hatred! This is the Light of Odium!” Smoke curled up from the ground around the Man, as he let his powers loose, laughing bloodcurdlingly, mad with power, eyes dilated, lips pulled back across his teeth in a mad snarl, teeth bared in a wild grin. His eyes were wide with a psychotic blaze, and Light poured out from them. Slowly, the light faded, drawing back into the pack, dissipating into the air, leaving the man who had been holding it. The smoke ceased to pour from the earth, instead hanging heavy in the air, tainting it, painting the landscape a darker shade. The Man stood, his laughter slowly dying, fading away. “You failed. You can’t kill me.” He shook his head, his mad grin still stretched across his face, his eyes still wild. “You could try again another day,” He said, chuckling, “If you make it through the night.” All credit to Sage Kangaroo for the writeup. Sage Kangaroo was lynched. He was a Elsecaller. Vote Count Fuchsia Ostrich (1): Mauve Crocodile Sage Kangaroo (1): Fuchsia Ostrich, Pearl Chameleon Night 12 has begun. It will end in 24 hours, on the 21st February at 10pm GMT. Player List 1. Amethyst Scorpion - Villager-turned-Bondsmith 2. Azure Mouse - Sympathiser Worldhopper 3. Amber Vulture - Villager 4. Charcoal Hyena - Cannoc - Villager 5. Chartreuse Penguin - Villager 6. Coral Swan - Elyle - Village Lightweaver 7. Cream Tuatara - Villager 8. Emerald Falcon - Aldrick - Villager 9. Fuschia Ostrich 10. Indigo Weasel - Village Elsecaller 11. Ivory Dragonfly - Nolan - Village Bondsmith 12. Magenta Albatross - Sympathiser Windrunner 13. Mauve Crocodile 14. Melon Dingo - Quentisan - Village Edgedancer 15. Mint Heron - Kharsis - Villager 16. Onyx Flamingo - Squawk - Village Lightweaver 17. Opal Lion - Villager 18. Oxblood Beagle - Jai - Village Willshaper 19. Pearl Chameleon 20. Plum Rhinoceros - Villager 21. Quartz Zebra 22. Saffron Iguana - Emalia - Village Lightweaver 23. Sage Kangaroo - Elsecaller 24. Salmon Meerkat - Village Bondsmith 25. Sapphire Elephant - Sympathiser Skybreaker 26. Scarlet Octopus - Village Edgedancer 27. Sunburst Toucan - Vanna - Village Windrunner 28. Taupe Gecko - Villager 29. Turquoise Gorilla - Village Dustbringer 30. Violet Axolotl - Villager

Gotta say, once they hit Shadesmar, I thought Syladin was exactly where he was taking that. I'm not sure how I'd feel about it if he did. I believe they will have a love-type relationship, but not like a couple, more like a deep respect or friendship.. maybe even a sibling-esque love. As for Adolin and Sadeas.. I can see your point, and hell, I certainly didn't have a problem with it.. I'm pretty sure I even gave a fist pump when he did it! Haha. And I do know Kaladin did see Sadeas as a threat, but at the same time he could potentially have fallen under the category of "protect those I hate". In the end, though, it was a fair-ish fight, not a stab in the back in the dark. As for how they handle their own mental issues, neither has an exactly healthy way of doing so, so for one to rub off on the other would not necessarily be a good thing. Neither actually deals with it, they just each use different forms of band-aid to cover over the bloody stump of a severed limb.. so to speak. Not the best practice. I think what cemented ...Shadolin.. for me was how he tended to make just the right moves at the right time.. quietly being there when that's what she needed, moving close when she needed or pulling back when it was appropriate. Plus, I mean, the hair! Who could deny the hair!

Yeah. He didn't choose to let Elhokar die. He sure as hell failed, but it wasn't intentional. I don't have issues with that scene. Between his internal conflict regarding both sides, his severe depression, and everything else, his breakdown makes sense to me, and frankly it was needed. It went through the Shadesmar sequence, and his failure to say the fourth oath led to a much needed development for him in which he was made to realize that the burden is not all on his shoulders. "maybe it's some else's turn to save you." Compared to the recon to the ending of WoR, in I have no complaints there. Yes Elhokar died. Yes it was Kaladin's fault. No, it was not a issue for the bond. If he had made the decision not to intervene that would be different. He'd be actively choosing not to act.

I've known about Brandon's non-cosmere works for several years, particularly the Alcatraz ones, and now I've discovered MistBorn. I've only just finished the first series although I've accidentally found a little bit in the spoilery area and I know a little about the cosmere. I'm very interested though in the fact that there are three shards on Scadrial, (three godmetals) and we know what atium and larasiums alloys would do to an extent, if one makes the metal temporal (or mental I guess) and one enhancement or physical, where does that leave trellium? anywho I'm glad to join a community of (sandersonites?).

I kinda disagree that Adolin brings Shallan stability. Does he make her happy? Yes but only one part of herself. It has already been mentioned in the thread that Veil and Radiant are just as important to Shallan's identity as the "Shallan" that Adolin has fallen in love with. Brandon Sanderson himself has stated that they would all have one identity in the Spiritual Realm, and both Radiant and Veil have traits that were seen in Shallan before she had her whole identity crisis in Oathbringer. In my opinion, Adolin just loving one part of herself is going to lead to more problems for her. I'm not trying to go against the Adolin and Shallan pairing, I mean it is completely possible that he will learn love all three parts of herself, but as of now, his doubt on being able to love all three during their talk before the marriage doesn't make things look good.

It was brought up but it was not dwelt upon or used as a bludgeon to define the movie. It was really well done. I agree with this though I would put Black panther above the second GotG My question is do the events in this movie happen before or after his part in civil war in the timeline because I couldn't tell.

Actually, if you think about it, he's also fulfilling that Oath with Maya herself.. since the recreance no one knew her name, and they'd even forgotten that shardblades were even once spren at all. Also, I suspect of he does revive Maya, it may go towards redeeming the kr in the eyes of other spren as well, even if he somehow does not become a kr himself...

But was he playing dress up, or acting the part of a lighteyes? His and Elhokar's mission was to secure the support of local lighteyed lords in the city, for which you have to look the part. Sure Shallan could have provided illusory clothing, but even in her own disguises she uses real elements in attire. Did he play a bit with fashion? Sure. But then Kaladin got to play soldier, Shallan got to play Robin Hood, Elhokar got to play...at whatever Elhokar likes to play at..

Fair enough, not everyone likes that stuff. I wouldn't call people who like it a "Kardashian Audience" though - I mean I liked it and definitely can't stand reality TV of any stripe. I also wouldn't call it a cop out. It just makes sense and to me it adds to the story. I think you are misunderstanding Kaladin's character if you think he doesn't care about romance. It's one of his major motivations - most of the time when he thinks about his motivations and himself he thinks about his past romances. In another thread, people pointed out how Syl often represents Kaladin's repressed emotions and desires. He has a lot of things that he wants for himself - happiness, family, love, respect, but he will often place his duties first. I think a major theme in his character development is going to be learning how to balance those things - keeping duty as the most important thing in his life but learning that it's ok for it not to be the only thing. Syl will point out to him that he is interested in someone like Shallan or Laral and he denies it even though it's obvious that he is interested in them. She wins the argument against him when he tries to say all he needs are his brothers in battle and he acknowledges that he needs more than that. All shipping aside, Kaladin will almost certainly have a romance arc of some description. Personally, I like to see some romance in most books I read. I like it as a minor subplot, but I like it to be there. To me if I like a character I want to see a romance arc for them if it makes sense based on who they are and where they are as a character. If you don't feel that way, I understand.

There is WoB that states that it easier to become a Radiant if you already associate with one, which could be one reason why the Kholins have so many Radiants, and also excuses why we may well see new Radiants spring up around Dalinar and family. Also, I'm not so sure if you could count Shallan as a Kholin Radiant. Yes, she is marrying into the family, but her powers developed long before she met any of the Kholins. On Adolin, I sort of agree with you, and sort of don't. I'd like to see him resurrect Maya, but it would be terrible if she then turns around and leaves him. At the same time, I'd like to see him continue on as a normal(-ish) character in the world of Radiants. On the other hands, Maya is an Edgedancer Blade/Spren, and out of all of the orders, Adolin fits best with the Edgedancers, or so I believe. There is even a moment of foreshadowing on this in Oathbringer - when he goes to visit Gallant, because Dalinar is too busy ("I will remember those who have been forgotten"), although this could be argued that he went to visit as much for himself as for Gallant.

What i meant is in my opinion, the shadesmar section only really served to keep kaladin away from dalinar for long enough. The shadesmar section could of been done by jasnah taking shallan, shallan accidently taking adolin there etc, it seemed dragged out only to keep kaladin from dalinar, thats what i meant by saying the premise was weak. I really hope adolin does not awaken the blade and become a KR, he is not deserving of being one in my opinion and would sort of belittle what the others have gone through to become one. I'd be fine with adolin awakening the blade if the resulting spren left him then though. There is too many kholin KR already as well. Technically this is true. But following on from what @Walkerxes said the difference between previous generations of KR reactioin to the revelations they are the voidbringers and this generation reaction to it is honour so i think thats the real reason. I understand what your saying, i just dont think the level of addiction we see is foreshadowed, so seems out the blue. What is foreshadowed in my opinion is a much lesser addiction, more in line with a soft drug or alcohol/gambling. Whereas the effects of firemoss to me, seemed more in line with addiction to a hard drug. Perhaps if was built up more in OB where some of the more likely effects of hard drug addiction are seen i would think different. The jump is just too extreme for me personally I found shallan arcs very repetitive, as you mentioned the uithriu parts could of been trimmed also in kholinar could of been trimmed, because were repetetive. Her failure as veil should never of happened in my opinion because the fracturing of identies due to hiding from truths shouldnt of been a thing because when she spoke the 4th truth at the end of WoR it should of meant she had to embrace it and as a result her story progressed instesd it regressed or stagnated, thats just my opinion. Regards kaladin/ shallan, i just dont think that should ever of been a thing, it sprang up from no way and made no sense to me. My issue with kaladins arc isnt the fact he didnt save the day at the end, he had less page time in favour of more boring characters though, also his trip to find his family/time with his family could of been done better in my opinion, instead he returned to dalinar in uirithu and was just there. Adolin is a secondary character and should stay that way, when i say he was wasted i meant more that the repurcussions of him killing sadeas was wasted, alot of things could of happened with that. As i said above i hope if adolin awakens the blade the spren leaves him, he isnt deserving of being a kR and there are already to many kholin radinats. Dalinar, renarin (although dont think he can be called a KR presently), jasnah, shallan by marriage she will be kholin, adding adolin ti that be to much, would mean of 10 orders of KR the kholon family has 5 orders. As i said previously if he swore to kaladin i wouldnt of minded so much. Swearing to dalinae just made no sense. Minor characters individually as a whole they are verging on more though and are vastly more interesting then other secondary characters. This is exactly why i say the dalinar we knew in tWoK and WoR was a lie, maybe the word fake or sham be better to describe him. But i cant see how at the end of OB when after the revelations of dalinars past are made public that kaladin and Szeth would be ok with it as it appears they are at the end of OB and if they dont have a negative reaction in book 4 (we know they should based on past experiences) i feel that wouldnt follow who they are and wouldnt make sense. Thats my main issue with OB, its really at heart a 600 page story in a 1233 page book I couldnt of said it better than that.

I thought that had a pretty sad death too.

I've been wondering about this interlude as well, mainly about its purpose. Was it to add a bit of world building, show some of Herdaz and a new greatshell or are we going to see more of the captain? The escape acts made me wonder if he may be using abrasion, maybe without knowing what he's doing yet.

If it's obvious, it doesn't mean it's going to happen. Sometimes it's a red herring. Think about Elhokar, he was obviously going to save his son and there were hints that he would become a Lightweaver. Did he? Personally it bothered me that Adolin was playing the dress up during a very serious mission such as the Kholinar infiltration, which is occupied and with a severe security risk level raised. There are people dying out on the streets, 3 Unmade corrupting everything, he is escorting the couped king whom he is supposed to protect, he is part of the princedom, the rightfully legal ruling family, but he has time to care for having his clothes tailored (which currently I have no idea why and I'm too afraid to ask). All the while, Kaladin is trying to infiltrate the city guard in order to free the city and Shallan is trying to feed the people but gets her conscience crushed because she couldn't save a single kid. Yeah, that's so self-absorbed isn't it? Welcome to the thread btw and even though you are expressing very good points, none of them is new on this thread. Simply put, there are 95 pages here because there were so many points to address in this discussion. I would kindly advise that you at least go read the document linked above.

When you might move to New Zealand, and if you do, you'll probably stay there, and so, you'll likely never go to a signing. And you are sobbing because of it. But if we do go, I would be able to bring my books. When you are reading Maximum Ride, and come across this sentence, and immediately think of Lightsong and his drunk monkey theory.

Ok! Great to be here, thanks for responses, and also thanks for quoting over a comment I made in another post! *Rubs hands together* So.. an abysmal match? Shallan and Kal both are far too self-absorbed, for one. Yes, Adolin has some of that as well, but at the same time is also able to focus on something outside himself (Shallan, her well being, etc. Not once does Kaladin even express concern for Shallan, her ordeals, her obvious problems.. with the exception of making her laugh to forget getting stabbed in the palace.. basically, total friend zone). Even Kaladin's need to protect bridge 4 members is self serving.. he doesn't want to feel like a failure. Yes, he cares, but it's as much self serving as it is altruistic. Sure, he's all hot and brooding and "bad boy" so Shallan has some wayward attraction, but in the end, Sadeus murder aside, Adolin is way more stable, which Shallan definitely needs. More, the whole scene where Kaladin praises her for, essentially, unhealthy mental practices.. she's actually uncomfortable, recognizing that her way is not a good way, and directly dealing with her issues would be better (not that she actually does this). Where instead Adolin accepts her in spite of her problems, providing a stable place to lean while she actually deals (we hope eventually) with her issues. Not to mention, both Adolin and Shallan are straight up murderers. Kaladin might not dispute either rationale for their murderers.. he hated Sadeus, and might recognize the self-defense..Ness.. of Shallan's patricide, but both are outside of what his oaths, thus far, would allow. Adolin has sworn no such oaths/ideals (yet), and Shallan speaks truths, not oaths. Kal has some book learning, yes, but doesn't have the easy jovial nature that Shallan and Adolin have (except, oddly, with Adolin.. but he brings that out in people). His attempts at humor with her are forced, at best.. and seem almost that he's trying too hard. Not to mention taking much of what she says in jest far too serious.. although I expect some of her "jokes" with Kal were less joke than she'd admit.. passive/aggressive pokes because she knows he killed her brother, yet knows he's really not at fault, but can't help but blame him some. Uh... Did I leave anything out? Hmm... Oh.. and also.. people here keep saying Shalladin, like Benifer or Bradjelina.. which immediately makes me hate any Kaladin Shallan pairing Oh! Lyn! Admittedly, I dragged her name from way out of left field. She's a relatively unknown at this point, however, being a more duty/goal oriented sort, she's still more a match for Kal. Kal needs someone more grounded, so to speak, than Shallan. In the end, though, I really do like the idea of Kaladin staying single. I recognize that probably won't happen, but I think it's more than ok to not have every protagonist matched up with a love interest.

I can't speak for the mechanics of firemoss addiction, but I think there are very good reasons why Teft spirals out of control in OB. He is overwhelmed with guilt over the death of his family. Not only did his actions lead to their death, but their belief in the Radiants is now somewhat justified. They were right, Teft was wrong and they paid for their lives for his mistakes. Teft is now in a position of power and prestige, and he feels he doesn't deserve it and that he will let everybody down. He gets back into firemoss, which makes him feel even more guilty and scared he will betray Bridge 4, so he uses more and it spirals out of control. And he is a Radiant, which was exactly what his family wanted. He must have felt so undeserving, as comes through in his dealings with his spren. I don't know about the way firemoss works, but there are good reasons why as life gets better for Teft, his grief and guilt grow to a point where he can't cope.

Wait a minute. Perfect Keteks don't change verb form (or switch between noun and verb form)? I thought you were allowed to change verb form and still have it be a perfect Ketek. To me, it sounds nice when you try to change the form a little bit, because it adds more variation. Oh well. Here's some more I've made. Falling, / the ground recedes. / Watching skies. / Watching receding ground. / The falling. Falling, the ground recedes. Watching skies. Watching receding ground. The falling. Eh. This one's not the best. Voidbringers: / Darkness rising from skin. / Their horrifying unearthly forms constantly forming unearthly horrors, / their skins from rising darkness. / Voidbringers. Voidbringers: Darkness rising from skin. Their horrifying unearthly forms constantly forming unearthly horrors, their skins from rising darkness. Voidbringers. Very very very good (well, I think so). This one actually is a decent length and is pretty cool. Storms. / Dying men. Appearing on horizons, / then leaving the horizons. / On appearing, men die. / Storms. Storms. Dying men. Appearing on horizons, then leaving the horizons. On appearing, men die. Storms. Kinda lame. Swift as wind, even. / Not killing men. / Protecting. / Protecting men killed. / Not even wind as swift. Swift as wind, even. Not killing men. Protecting. Protecting men killed. Not even wind as swift. Talking about Kaladin. See now, it might not make sense why he would be protecting men killed if they’re already dead, but killed is actually supposed to be a future perfect passive participle, which should be translated “about to be killed.” In Latin, it would be one word, but unfortunately, I cannot do that with English, so I just said “Protecting men killed” and wrote you a note telling you that it should be translated as a future perfect passive participle. Oh yeah, and the end “Not even wind as swift,” is just telling you that even the wind is slower than he. This one isn't too good though.

You know your a Sanderfan when you get your younger sister the Mistborn trilogy for her birthday. Then you have to literally restrain yourself from asking her what part she’s at and how she likes it every second so you don’t make her hate it, and when she says anything about it you start jumping up and down with absolute glee.

Doesn't he know that leaving it to our imagination is guaranteed to get our hopes up? When he leaves a title blank, I fill it with unreasonable expectations! Maybe 2018 won't be The Year Without Cosmere after all! Already the hypespren gather in great numbers! They float around my ears and whisper Nightblood, Nightblood. And disappointmentspren are waiting in the wings, knowing their day will come.

This is an awesome extra bit of info! It falls in line with my thoughts of timing, putting the Invasions closer to the Recreance than not. Not outright proof, but helpful still. Thanks! I agree. If they accomplished their goal of capturing the shards, why hold on to territory they don't want? Especially given their views on stone and stonewalkers? Easier to let it dissolve and retreat back to their more fertile lands. And as an additional thought - there are no spren in Shinovar. Is that maybe because they are driven away by the large number of Deadeyes? If the Shin have thousands of deadblades, it may overload the Shinovar aspect of Shadesmar with so many deadeyes that no spren, even the basic spren, is comfortable going there? Get their emotion food elsewhere, from a less creepy place?

Do we know how far their empire stretched? If they conquered the eastern world, but were stopped somewhere in Vedenar, it would go a long way towards explaining why Vedenar and Alethkar each have as many shards as the rest of the world combined. This would validate what you are saying and what is said in the text. Basically, they pushed as far as they could go, but realized they were reaching too far once they hit mountainous Vedenar. So they did overreach, as stated in the text, but instead of watching their empire crumble like most overreaching empires do, they grabbed all the shards they could and pulled out

This is a great theory. I vaguely remember Gavilar (or someone close to him) talking about limiting his conquest to Alethkar, resisting the urge to take over the world and build an untenably huge empire. He says the Shin invaders (much like the Sunmaker) lost their empire shortly after conquering it because they overreached. But maybe the Shin let their empire disintegrate. Maybe they just wanted shards, and they let their conquered territories go once they'd confiscated all the plate and blades. Alternatively, I had another theory while reading yours. Maybe the Shin attitude toward warriors isn't all that ancient. Maybe the Shin Invasions were Shinovar's version of the Hierocracy: the warrior class took control of the country and tried to take over the world. Once the Stone Shamans (the religious class) regained control, they permanently reduced the status of soldiers to prevent another coup. It's like the Hierocracy in reverse!

Maybe Mraize eats maize in preparation for the maze of m(ayonn)aise on the path to Braize--to fight Rayse, the Cosmere to raze. Yeah, sorry...

As Esheo makes a gift of his death, so shall I make a gift of my departure. To each of you, I leave a gift. Maill's Will: To Ecthelion, I leave the pleasures of Omi’s love. Hope you’re enjoying the afterlife. Elbereth, I give you secret knowledge and approval of your writing. I’ll miss it. I leave my gratitude to Silverblade and Elenion gets my aggressiveness. Rae, I leave you my smirk. Elodin, I leave you House Lekal’s koloss. Bard, I leave you my love of PMs, Devotion. To Eol, I leave you my Aviar and codes. Straw, have fun with death. I’ll be there soon. Magestar, accept my Derethi respect. Aman, I leave you temporary custody of the Odium panda(minus the Mashadar). To Orlok, keep the coups going. You get my positions and my slaves. Stink, you get to call yourself the Stormfather for the next two years. Conq, you get my water fury. Jaime, I leave you the Mashadar from the panda. Emerald, welcome back. Keep playing. Ant, I hope you show up. Wilson, I leave you the MEC suit and flamethrower. Oh, you get the Reckoners Jacket too. To Araris, I leave the goal of beating my number of games played. Silver Dragon, learn from the Shadows. Burnt, I leave you my soul devouring smile. Kipper, you get to take the title of Silverpike and Info Broker. I leave my lightning to Aonar and my lion to Lopen. Alv, you keep my eternal respect and shadow. Lopen, I also leave you Survival. To Sart, I leave my death percentages. Try to break them. I leave my faction destruction to Ren. And to Joe, i leave the goal of most games played as well as the title of Second Silverpike and Chaos Master. I have enjoyed all my many games here and I hope to return to a great community in two years. Thanks guys! Don't worry, this isn't my last post of the game, just wanted to make sure I got this in.