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We have some exciting news to announce. So far in order to obtain some unpublished works of Brandon's, you'd have to email him through his site, and his assistants would distribute them. Well now you won't need to wait for that, because we will be in charge of distributing Aether of Night! All you have to do is post in this topic (you'll need a 17th Shard account, but that's it), and our staff will PM you the document. You do not need to post an email address here; we will send it to you through this website. Once we do this, we'll remove your post here. We'll be using this topic as a to-do list for requests. Ideally since we have lots of staff members, we will get this out to you soon, within a week or two. We hope you're excited about this, so many of you will be able to get this text in a much more obvious way now! You will receive a .docx file, and if you need to convert it into a .pdf or .epub, there are many converters to do that for you. (We are not distributing the old prose version of White Sand; that is distributed in Brandon's newsletters.) Thank you Dragonsteel for letting 17S do this! Edit as of 2024: This is still going! We've gone through over 300 pages of replies distributing. It's just that we remove posts here once we send them out.

Locke Tekiel, of noble lineage, and a greater command of loopholes than seems remotely reasonable, walked into the courtroom. "Vron vs God" seemed like an excellent case to begin his legal career, but as was proper, he must act for his client. Coincidentally, that was also a great deal more fun, and also just. "Lord Justice, of great honour and immeasurable wisdom," he began. "This court assembles today to consider the case of our great friend and noble ally, Mr, Red Facemask, an alias of Vron, against the Remnant of Dominion, "God". However, it has come to my attention that there remain a good number of unaddressed legal matters, and I now provide notice that we seek to try Mr Hooded Cloak on charges of assault with a deadly weapon and corruption; Requiem, on charges of assault and slander; and Ecthelion III on charges of libel. "Although the charges against the murderous Remnant are by far the most serious, I'll begin by presenting the evidence against Mr Hooded Cloak." He paused to gather his thoughts. "The first, and lesser charge, is for assault with a deadly weapon. It is indisputable that Mr Hooded Cloak kicked my client, our dearly departed and universally respected Mr, Red Facemask, in the face. He admits the assault himself:" "The relevant question, then, is whether the assault was warranted," Locke said. "Mr Hooded Cloak suggests that his action was warranted, as under Silverlight law, he claims that the theft of the essence marks would be a felony, and that he was entitled to defend his property. However:" "Here, Mr Hooded Cloak is clearly shown to have acted aggressively, with intent to cause harm without first observing who he was assaulting. To claim he was acting in defence of his property, when he knew not who he was attacking nor what they were doing, should hold no water. The defence requires the intention of the assault being the defence of property, which manifestly does not exist. It is likely that the defendant will seek to excuse his actions, arguing that he was seeking to harm a minion of Odium. In the eyes of the law, this defence, too, should be ruled invalid. Firstly, it is clearly fabrication. Mr Hooded Cloak had no grounds to believe that the movement was caused by a servant of Odium. He was, however, aware of the presence of a number of innocent spirits on the island, and after giving what would be widely accepted as incomplete advice, could reasonably expect one to return, to seek clarification. Further, even if Mr Hooded Cloak had some way to be certain that the movement was caused by a servant of Odium (which he manifestly didn't), the assault would still be unwarranted. Are we to treat all of Odium's servants as guilty of the crimes committed by Odium himself? Should we punish Mr Hooded Cloak's followers, Skai's followers, and Reqiem's followers for the crimes they have committed? Mr Hooded Cloak made a judgement he was not entitled to make, not representing the legal system of Silverlight in and of himself. "Additionally, we would like Mr Hooded Cloak to be found guilty of the higher crime, Assault with a Deadly Weapon." Locke smiled. He was fond of this particular argument. "Mr Hooded Cloak himself admits, in no uncertain terms, that he is capable of destruction on a truly vast scale:" "Through this, Mr Hooded Cloak makes apparent that he himself constitutes a deadly weapon. The assault was obviously made by Mr Hooded Cloak's person himself, being a kick, and so fulfils the requirements necessary for the elevation of this crime. "Sadly, though, it is apparent that this is not the sole crime Mr Hooded Cloak is guilty of committing," Locke continued. "Mr Hooded Cloak is also accused of impersonating a representative of the legal system of Silverlight, or of blatant abuse of a position as a representative of a the legal system of Silverlight. If Mr Hooded Cloak is a representative of the legal system of Silverlight, as has not been made apparent, he has acted in an entirely corrupt manner, and under SIlverlight law should have recused himself from a position of authority at a trial of anyone he knew. That he did not, despite being on trial himself represents the very highest order of abuse of his position, and under Silverlight law by default strips him of his position as a representative of their legal system. Unless Mr Hooded Cloak can prove that he did not take this action, this constitutes sufficient evidence to warrant conviction under corruption charges. "The following evidence demonstrates that Mr Hooded Cloak did indeed assume the authority of a judge in his own trial:" "If Mr Hooded Cloak is not a representative of the legal system of Silverlight, the same evidence makes apparent to all that he acted claiming to be a representative of the legal system of Silverlight. You will no doubt be aware that impersonation of such an official carries an automatic custodial sentence as punishment." Locke looked up from his notes. "Honourable Justice, the matter of Mr Hooded Cloak's guilt is uncontroversial. We seek compensation of one functioning essence mark, delivered promptly to Mr, Red Facemask, for the unwarranted assault with a deadly article, and suggest a custodial sentence of five years, stripped of all powers, for either the impersonation of a representative of the Silverlight legal system, or for the blatant corruption evident in his actions attempting to preside over his own trial. If the removal of his powers during the period of incarceration is impossible, we suggest a fine of 50 gold pieces, payable to the estate of Mr, Red Facemask, in lieu of imprisonment." Locke turned to Mr Hooded Cloak, and smiled, awaiting his response. @Ecthelion III @Alvron

Before the assembled squires stands a stern woman who has introduced herself as Brightness Kenara. “Welcome to Squadron Alpha,” she says. “You have been chosen as members of Alethkar’s first attempt to train Knights Radiant as warriors for the glory of the Almighty. A test group, as it were. You could become the legendary first squadron in a line of hundreds. “That, or you become a failure forever forgotten to history. Up to you.” There are murmurs. “Silence,” she says. “I’m not done. While you’ll be sent into the field soon enough, for now you’re only training. Specifically, rather than individuals, you have to learn to function as a single, coherent unit. “To that end, each recruit will step forward. List your name, previous occupation, and and anything else you think it’d be useful for the squadron to know.” She looks at the person at the end of the line. Welcome to QF25: A Sundered Sky! Housekeeping No minimum of votes to lynch; tied vote results in a coinflip. I will take writeup requests, both in the form of full completed writeups and anything the player wishes included upon his or her death. On a similar note, if you are certain that you will not RP, tell me so that I can use your character in the writeups at my discretion. PMs are completely open. They can be sent at any time to anyone, including group PMs. (The only rule is that you cannot add players to already extant PMs.) Rollover is tentatively set to occur at 9pm PDT / 5am BST. There is a 2-cycle inactivity filter. If you do not post or PM for 2 cycles without explanation, you will be killed. Factions Squires: Village faction. Must kill all Skybreakers to win. Skybreakers: Eliminator faction with a doc to communicate, and a kill each turn. Must kill or outnumber all Squires to win. Roles Lightweaver: You may protect one person from attacks every cycle, through changing their appearance to look like something else. Elsecaller: You may survive one attack or lynch, through transporting yourself somewhere slightly less dangerous. Stoneward: You may use your surge of Cohesion to make a player change their vote to any player who has already been voted on. Dustbringer: You may use your surges of Division and Abrasion to knock out a player for a cycle, rendering them unable to vote (though they may still take actions). New Recruit: You are too new to being a squire to have any powers which you can actually use yet, but you’re learning. You may be of any order (and I will accept requests), but have no other actions. Truthless: You want to die. Specifically, you want everyone else to come together to kill you, because that is what you deserve. Your win condition is to be lynched. However, anyone who votes on you the cycle you are lynched is attacked. Quick Links:

"Objection, your honor!" Requiem faced the Unkalaki judge. "The charge for assault lacks legal basis! First, let it be established that this case is being held under Unkalaki law. We are not under the jurisdiction of Silverlight while on Roshar, and the honorable judge is a certified judge of Unkalaki law, not of Silverlight law. Second, Mr. Albert Vron is deceased. Being deceased, he does not constitute a legal entity under local Unkalaki law. As such, he does not have legal standing to make a case as a plaintiff. It would be legal for another to act as plaintiff on behalf of the deceased Mr. Albert Vron. However, no such person has, as of yet, come forward. And before you try, remember that it would be highly improper for the laywer of a case to assume the position of plaintiff, Locke. So the case for assault does not have standing as a civil case! There is legal standing for a criminal case, with the plaintiff designated to be the Unkalaki government. However, if this were to be re-designated as a criminal trial, any form of monetary compensation would be out of the question for Mr. Albert Vron, as such compensation may only be sought in a civil case." Requiem paused briefly for effect. "I will also raise an objection about the identity of one of the accused parties, Mr Remnant. Mr Remnant has been charged with impersonating a Silverlight judge. However, evidence suggests that the person known as Phil is the perpetrator of this crime. With the presentation of this evidence, I motion a new case be convened on a later date to put Phil on trial for impersonating a silverlight official. It would also be proper to extradite Phil to silverlight to hold that trial, because it is not under Unkalaki jurisdiction." Requiem seated himself again. "As you can see, your honor, this trial is wholly invalid. All civil charges against myself and Remnant must be dropped."

When someone abbreviated Book of Mormon as BoM, and you immeadietly think Bands of Mourning.

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Hi! Confession: I've been jumping around the Coppermind countless of times. However, I never found a reason to sign up for the forums because I'm not really a forum person. But then there was free stuff (Aether) and here I am. To punish myself for being late I decided I should actually post something here, and try to become a good citizen by actually discussing things with people. There, had to get that over with first, now let's start over! Introduction: Hello there! I'm a norwegian female who have loved books since before I could read myself (much to the torment of my mum who had to read me bedtime stories). Most of my favourite childhood book settings included living among vikings, living in the stone age, being stranded on deserted islands or running away to the forest. No wonder then, that as a grownup I enjoy Fantasy more than almost any other kind of genre. However,I also run though crime novels, history books and way too many children's books whenever I get the chance. I started reading Sanderson when he was announced as the writer who would finish the Wheel of Time series and I wanted to know what kind of writer he was. I began with Elantris as it was a standalone, and continued with the Mistborn books.. After that I just kept going. To date I guess I've read every published work except the 5th Alcatraz-book, which is next on my list. I discovered Goodreads almost a year ago, so if anyone is interested in seeing what books I've read (accurate for the last year, not so for all books ever written), here's my account: https://www.goodreads.com/leijaa -N Also, whoa, just realized that I'll have my 10 year anniversary as a Sanderson reader this December.

Just wanted to post a thought on my recent reread of the first two books of SA. From what I have read here, most have found the Herald Pailiah to be the Ardent walking through the Palanaeum that Shallan notes walking by like a Herald in WoK. What if this ardent is the SAME ardent from Lhan's interlude, who he thinks is called something "like" Pai? Since Pailiah's order is the truthwatchers I don't see her being dishonest with her name, and "Pai" could be kind of a nickname. Also, being an ardent goes with "learning" and her concern for the waste and desire to give to the poor goes with "giving". She is highly critical of the ardents, even the church itself, and comes across as an outsider. Her writing of the glyphs at the end of the segment also goes along with what we know of the truthwatcher order (similar to Renarin's writing at the end of WoR, and also possibly Dalinar's wall). As for the "execution" of Pai, do we know how she was executed? In other words, was she killed in a way that a Truthwatcher could not recover from with Regrowth? Pai certainly did not seem to fear death. Obviously if this is Pailiah she would have needed to either retrieved her Honorblade or somehow formed a Nahel bond to use the truthwatching surges.

Day 9: Aggressive Negotiations Writeup will come later. Probably. I hope. ------------------------------------- Day 9 has begun! Due to other engagements, the next rollover will be postponed by a couple of hours. Also, an important note: I will end the game as soon as the victory conditions of one faction or alliance of factions becomes inevitable. Corinoc (cloudjumper) was lynched. He was a Voidbringer Stormform! Rif (Yitzi2) was attacked and killed. He was a Son of Honor Guardsman! Vote Count: Cloudjumper (9): Straw, _Stick_, Sami, A Joe in the Bush, Yitzi2, Drake Marshall, Daniyah, Cloudjumper, Alvron, Alethi Player List: Straw @Straw Stick @_Stick_ Samar @Sami TBD @A Joe in the Bush Unnamed Character 4 @Sart Kreshela @Elbereth Parshendi Player List: Kyner @Drake Marshall Anya @Daniyah Mint @Frozen Mint Petyr and Cranium @Alvron The Dead Plato Anderson (Elenion). Voidbringer Decayform Arbol (Roadwalker). Voidbringer Decayform Locke (OrlokTsubodai). Alethi Artifabrian Aredor (asterion137). Alethi Artifabrian Raaman (Hemalurgic Headshot). Alethi Guardsman Zephyras (Megasif) Ghostblood Ambassador Kintas (Jondesu) Ghostblood Parshendi Warform Unnamed Character 5 (Crimsn-Wolf) Ghostblood Shardbearer (Plate) Unnamed Character 1 (BrightnessRadiant) Son of Honor Highprince Max Mercury (The Flash) Alethi Shardbearer (Plate) Ethelinar (StrikerEZ) Son of Honor Shardbearer (Blade) Corinoc (cloudjumper). Voidbringer Stormform Rif (Yitzi2) Son of Honor Guardsman

Locke Tekiel laughed, briefly. What fool would interrupt a trial as a bystander? "Your honour, we would motion to hold Requiem in contempt of court for this unwarranted interruption. "Regardless, he is much mistaken. Although we are indeed under Unkalaki jurisdiction, Silverlight legal precedent extends the jurisdiction of local judges to cover cases occurring elsewhere, provided they are fully aware of the relevant case law and facts. "Our unauthorised objector raises the issue of a plaintiff representing Mr Vron, his being deceased. I would remind Mr Requiem that such a requirement is quite antiquated, and that we all stand here as living examples of why the simple matter of death no longer prevents an individual acting as their own plaintiff. "Mr Requiem also appears mistaken about the complaints brought forward. Mr Remnant certainly has not been charged with impersonation of a Silverlight official. Phil, Mr Hooded Cloak, on the other hand, has been. "Finally, our uninvited interrupter seems to believe that that his flawed and impermissible interjection, centred on points against the case made against Mr Hooded Cloak, requires the case against him to be dropped. The honourable justice must agree that there is no legal basis for such a farcical claim."

It cannot be denied there are stories purely violent or sexual. I do not enjoy those, simply because it gets boring once you've gone through the first pages or minutes. However, there are certain times when sex or violence is used for character or plot development. Not just because it's realistic and a part of our lives, but because it IS a way of making a character change, or even the plot, for better or worse. In addition, I've read books where torture is a vital part of character development. There are many degrees of torture. An example would be A Court of Thorns and Roses. It's not very violent, it does not rely solely on physical pain, but it's still torture, and it still changes the main character greatly. If you skip it, you'd be missing a big chunk of the story. Personally, I believe there are certain instances where sex and violence contributes to the plot. But the thin line between contribution and mere gibberish is complicated to handle and very blurry to distinguish sometimes, since it can be left to personal interpretation. If it does contribute, I don't think anyone should skip it, simply because you're missing a point the author is trying to make. About the point of people trying to get away from real life... I'd say that's half true and half not. I have taken shelter inside books for years and I still have enjoyed violent and/or slightly sexual books. Because I know it's fiction. It tries to be as realistic as possible, but it's still fiction. If you cannot have that in mind when you read, let's say, dark fantasy or military, then maybe you should avoid that genre entirely, because it's bound to have the kind of content you don't like, unless someone specifically tells you 'this book doesn't have it'. There is also another issue on how explicit the author wishes to be with their sexual or violent content, but sometimes you can also associate this with the type of story the author wants to tell (and I mean this in those cases where this content is not just gibberish). If you read dark fantasy, you can expect explicit violence. It's not always there, but chances are high, because explicit violence contributes to the whole feeling of a story where the world is truly messed up. Again, I will repeat that it's not 100% necessary, BUT it still is a valid method for authors to use. Not all stories use the same methods and tools. To sum this up... I do not shy away from content like this, because I understand it may be useful and provide input about the story and characters. I do, however, tend to avoid stories where it is overused. PS: I'm new to this community so I can't say whether this one's the best or not, but so far everyone's been so nice! xD

I can't believe I've never searched for anything on Aether over in the TWG. I finally did... and I found some very interesting stuff. While he was revising the first Mistborn book back in 2004, Brandon was developing a series called the Aethers of Lor (originally Lore), set in the world of Aether. It was going to be a megaseries, with smaller series set on the same planet (the planet of Lor) using different aspects of the magic system, inspired by the overall structure of Dragonriders of Pern. The first book was going to be called Climb the Sky: Aether of Wind Trilogy, Book One. (Although a lot of TWG members didn't seem too keen on that name.) He never got further than planning; he canned that to focus on finishing the Mistborn trilogy, and we all know what happened after that. (If you don't, he decided to work on Dragonsteel, and put that aside when asked to finish the Wheel of Time.) EDIT: It also had the Royal Locks in it. (As did Dark One, apparently. They sure got around.) Aethers of Lor must be the untitled Aether project that Brandon lists in his unpublished works; nobody was thrilled with the name, so he probably considered Lor a placeholder. I also think it's the missing fifth project from the ancient Tor Proposal. (The three write-ups Brandon included in his blog were Elantris, Mistborn, and Stormlight. Dragonsteel was almost certainly one of the other two, and the timeline fits for Aethers of Lor to be the fifth.) So, a couple very important takeaways from this: The Aether world was actively developed even after Mistborn had been written, and Ruin and Preservation had been cannibalized. Brandon doesn't mention if this is cosmere or not, because the concept of the cosmere hadn't been very well developed among his readers at the time (5 points to whoever links Peter saying he doesn't think Way of Kings is on a shardworld), but I think because the concept was driven by an expansive magic system, that it almost certainly was set in the cosmere. Which means, he must have had a Shard or two to go with it. The Aether of Wind doesn't appear onscreen in the manuscript. It looks like it gave flight, which isn't all that inherently interesting. But I wonder if it also had a counterpart, and if the worldbuilding kept the Fell Twins as history? But regardless, the magic of the Aethers definitely extends beyond what we've seen in the Aether of Night to further elements. The world of Aether of Night is referred to as Vaeria in the text. Did Brandon just consider renaming it to Lor? Or was Vaeria merely a region on Lor? (Similar to how he once referred to Opelon as the "world that Elantris takes place in." Since the latest way Brandon referred to the world was as Lor, then I find it hard to believe that Vax is the world of the Aethers. There are superficial similarities between Vaeria and Vax (inasmuch as they begin with the same two letters), but Vax is very different than Lor.

Consider this hypothetical situation. Suppose I have a gun and attempt to shoot a terrorist, but I missed and instead shot someone who was trying to rob me. Was I not justified in shooting the person who was trying to rob me just because I was originally shooting for the terrorist? I think not. I would disagree that in your hypothetical situation, if I were to shoot an assailant, the action would be self-defense and not murder. Once again, it is not the original intent that matters, but what actually happened. And what actually happened was a man shot someone who was attacking him. Read: self-defense. (Spec doc as a jury is fine! Heck, make all the uninvolved players part of the jury, too. By uninvolved I mean everyone except you, Alvron, and Drake.)

"Excuse the informality of 'my pal' Phil. However, the points he brings up are valid. First, I am indeed a completely separate individual. Thus, the charge of being a judge in my own trial holds absolutely no water. Furthermore, as the quote about me being capable of much destruction has been misattributed, the charge of Assault with a Deadly Weapon has no ground either. As every one of the witnesses would tell you, I was completely unarmed. Additionally, I would have been incapable of using any of the magic seen during my battle with Odium because the incident in question took place before the Splintering of Aona and Skai and the subsequent creation of the Dor. That leads us to the charge of assault. You claim that it is a crime to defend one's property "without first observing who was assaulting". Let me ask you this: is it a crime to defend one's property against a masked robber? Of course it isn't. Just because the identity of the robber is unknown does not change anything. And as for what Mr. Facemask was doing...well, we can get his testimony right now, can we not? Or would the testimony not be valid--because as Requiem said, the plaintiff is not a legal entity. It's your choice: is the plaintiff not a legal identity, or should we get his testimony?"

"Your honor, I am one of the accused, and thus by Unkalaki law have standing to register an objection. Clearly Locke misunderstands this case. I would like to point out that Silverlight legal precedent does not extend to affect local judges. That would be tantamount to claiming that Silverlight decides the laws of other nations. Unkalaki is a sovereign nation! If you were actually speaking as a representative of Silverlight, such a claim as you have made would amount to an international incident. I would also like to draw to your attention that the district Unkalaki court exists to interpret the laws and deliver judgement, not to write new ones or nullify existing ones. It does not matter if you think the requirement for a plaintiff to be living is "antiquated." It is the law. The only court that has the authority to overrule such a law is the Unkalaki Supreme Court, which is strictly appellate for a case of this nature. What's more, you appear to be mistaken about the identity of Mr Hooded Cloak. Mr Hooded Cloak is Remnant. They are one and the same, and neither of them are Phil. Therefore, this case has no legal standing. One of the charges is against simply the wrong person... And the other charges cannot be pressed in a civil lawsuit, because the plaintiff is no longer a legal entity."

I'm fairly determined to do this for Halloween/Salt Lake ComiCon this year, only sans platypus. I have the look to go as Vin if it weren't for two problems: 1. I need black hair dye and 2. I don't have my ears pierced. On that note, when you consider getting your ears pierced just for a Vin cosplay. XD

@Eternum Hi, and welcome to SE! Like mafia, but cooler! And with powers. And thematic. And neat rules. And the best GMs you'll ever find! #EcthelionBestGM2017. If you want to sign up to try it out, I would recommend it. To sign up, all you really need to do is to say you want to play, and your name will be added to the list. Describing a character is optional, but it gives you more direction to Role-Play during the game, which can be a really fun part. My advice since this is a QF is to keep the tab open and check up on it a few times a day, or as soon as possible. Things will happen fast, and if you don't keep up on it you can end up being lynched within minutes. (Like me. Don't be like me.) I'm glad you decided to play, and I hope you have fun!

When in Sunday school you are asked to draw ox and you try to draw chull, and the only other Sanderfan in the room starts cracking up. (But that might have been because they looked so bad). Or you find a piece of gray fabric and start plotting... The end result are two passable Mistcloaks. One for me, and one for my stuffed platypus.

No. I did that, through convincing you and her to protect me while I soaked kills, two cycles in a row, despite both times (though particularly the first) you being reluctant to do so. Why would the game format assume you would try to lynch unaligned Parshendi on grounds that they're Voidbringers? That would be actively against your own interests. The Voidbringers were until the rebalancing the only mechanic with which the Parshendi could kill you. Of course you would want them dead. (Ghostbloods similarly. You needed Jondesu as dead as any of us, since he was Parshendi, so why not kill the more dangerous player first?) Essentially: everyone in this game, including myself, has been working towards their own victory as best they can with the tools they have. For the Alethi/Sons, that's the lynch and the Shardblade. For the Parshendi/Voidbringers, that's their kills and trying to persuade everyone else to be fair. I don't really view either side as better or worse. I protected Alvron for two reasons: first, my loyalty rested more in BR than the Sons, and she was dead, and they had never made me make any promises of alliance or anything of the sort, so there was no reason for me to hold to my word. Secondly, wouldn't the game be boring otherwise? The Parshendi Shardbearer would be dead, and it'd just be a matter of lynching and killing the rest of the Parshendi and Cloud. Which is absolutely no fun at all, hmm? At this point, assuming there's no second Ghostblood Parshendi, what I do matters absolutely nothing to my win condition and those of my team. (There could be another Voidbringer, but in that case we've probably already lost.) Which players do I think deserve to win more? No comment. Cloud.

Chapter 6: The Great Court of Unkalaki Under Requiem’s careful direction, they arrived in a Horneater village. None of the others questioned how he knew where to find it; he suspected that after the incident with Ambition, they just assumed him to be all-powerful. In reality, he recognized the mountains from his first visit. He was not far from the exact village he had been raised in. The group of adventurers was received warmly. They were shown to guest huts to sleep in for the night and were given dinner. As they ate, a sudden cry spread among the villagers. They abandoned their duties and ran in the direction the adventurers had arrived from, toward the pool. Requiem—and Skai’s Remnant, he noticed—immediately stood up and followed as fast as their legs could carry them. The Horneaters had gathered in a circle around the edge of the pool. The two of them pushed through and saw a person pulling themself up out of the water. The person was coughing and looked like he had been to Damnation and back. He collapsed on the shore, and as he struggled to his feet again, Requiem could see it was a parshman—no, a parshendi warform. Requiem turned to Skai’s Remnant and asked: “What time did you take us to? This is important. Very important.” “It’s the fifth of Chach, I believe, of the year 1164. Why?” Requiem gave no answer. Instead, he just stared at the ragged parshendi. Himself. - Hours later, they sat in a comfortable hut. Skai’s Remnant stood in the center, holding an animal skin bag. A sword was sheathed at his waist. “We’re here on Roshar to find Tanavast, and there’s only one being who can help us with that, a being which lives far, far away. We don’t have any time to lose before more of us die, so we’re going to have to [ahem] cheat a little bit.” He opened the bag and withdrew fifteen bracelets, each a different color and inset with a large crystal. Choosing a clear one, he slipped it over his wrist. Instantly, the gemstone began to glow and the bracelet came alive. The outermost part of it seemed to melt and shot in a line like light up his arm. Huge white wings like an angel’s sprouted from his back. “If anyone asks,” Skai’s Remnant said, “do not tell them where we got these.” - What had started as a formal meeting had become a mob. “The agents of Odium are hinding among us! Someone needs to die!” shouted Mr, Red Facemask. “Let us cast lots and have the natural order of things decide.” Several voices shouted in approval. “That is ridiculous!” another said. “Do you expect to find our opponents by throwing darts? We need calculated action!” More shouting, some of approval, some of ridicule. “If we kill everyone, including myself, Odium’s servants shall not escape! The world shall be FREE ONCE MORE!!!” It was chaos. Accusations were being thrown everywhere with the littlest of evidence to support them. Consensus swung back and fourth repeatedly. The village filled with yells. Then, one voice pierced the din. “You want one of us dead, do you?” Skai’s Remnant said. His voice turned cold. “Very well.” In the blink of an eye, he unsheathed his sword and slashed it straight through Mr. Red Facemask. Two thumps were heard as his lifeless body fell to the ground. Skai’s Remnant sheathed the sword and turned away. “You’re wasting all of our time. Death is not the answer. Maybe in the next life you will learn…” He sensed something and turned around. Atop Facemask’s severed body stood a translucent spirit. It grinned wickedly. “I said I’m suing you, Remnant. And this time, it’s for murder.” This is a Night turn lasting 24 48 hours. Alvron (Mr, Red Facemask) has died and passed to the Cognitive Realm. Here is his autopsy report: And here is his will.

Clarifications Rule edit: There is a 2-cycle inactivity filter. If you do not post or PM for 48 hours without explaining your absence, you will die. This does not count for the Truthless win. PAFO on secret roles or alignments. Elsecaller is a passive ability. Skybreakers can have any role. Lightweavers may self-protect, but may not protect the same person two turns in a row. Player List 1. Elithanathile - Sebas - butler with dreams 2. Drake - Aaliyah 3. Mage - Damond 4. Eternum - Albion Kerenas - former officer 5. Jebus - Teralarin - overenthusiastic former squadleader 6. Flash - Johnny Quick - even faster than his name 7. Elenion - Albert Vospar - merchant and "former" revolutionary 8. Orlok - Highprince Locke Tekiel - very slightly arrogant 9. Megasif - Zirconidas - nervous brother of a Radiant 10. Winter Devotion - John - definitely normal 11. Roadwalker - Silver - exterminator, possibly a bird 12. Jondesu - Tzlim - mute (but talks in italics) 13. Paranoid King - Spiff 14. Stick - Dan - quiet and suspiciously sticklike 15. Sami - Aleta Nebrask - hiding in nonexistent curtains 16. Stink - Lazar - likes being in non-consensual relationships, apparently 17. Arraenae - Malnar - is not pleased at his idiotic surroundings 18. Lopen - Revali - might kill people in his sleep 19. Darkness - Belegaer - new to existence 20. Bard - Melinon - scared of shadows 21. Ecthelion 22. Yitzi - Brightlord Erethin 23. Sart - Ardent Sartal 24. Arinian - Alrin Spectators 1. Alvron (Impartial Moderator) - Naihar and Lorna 2. Seonid 3. Wilson - Kenara 4. Striker 5. Aonar 6. Brightness Radiant 7. Straw 8. Hael - Draen 9. Doc - Hithon 10. A Joe in the Bush Rollover will be ~9pm PDT, unless something changes. The game will start a week from when it began on Wednesday, August 2nd (Thursday for non-Americans).

If I could spend all of my upvotes on this I would, this totally made my day XD XD I told my friend who went on a mission that if he could talk up the Book of Mormon the way he did the Wheel of Time (he was the one who got me to read it) then he would convert like the whole country of Costa Rica.

Hello! I recently read one of those somewhat unsubstantiated clickbait articles claiming that my shameless nerdiness and obsession with multiple fictional universes is actually good for me, and realized I had not yet plumbed the depths of the Sanderson community, so here I am. Heal me, my fellows. In any case, greetings from Milwaukee, WI. I basically read like it's my second job (and I'm a teacher, so I read a lot for that job, too) so I can wax poetic about Sanderson's works, the Wheel of Time, Gentleman Bastards, The Farseer books, Harry Potter, Tolkien, Marvel, ASoIaF, and...probably a lot more, tbh. I read A LOT and am always looking for solid recommendations so I stop rereading a safe bet. I also shamelessly read and write fanfiction. Lovely to be here.

Hello ! Mekyo. I like fantasy, video games, nature. I'll be honest, the Aether of Night copy is why I created the account, but discussing something we all like can only be fun (mostly?), so I'll definitely stay. I'm currently reading Queen of Fire, from Anthony Ryan. Axies the Collector might be my favourite Sanderson character. He does magic science and takes notes on his own fricking body ! He takes everything that happens to him as an opportunity to study spren ! The Way of Kings got me into Sanderson and the Cosmere. What I really like in books and games is worldbuilding. You can probably guess why I like Sanderson.

Hello, fellow fans! I'm a long time fanatic of the Cosmere, and anything else Brandon Sanderson creates. I have a particular fondness for finding better details about the fashions and clothing in each book, as I am a seamstress and costume designer. If you notice interesting details about fashion in the books (there are a TON), I'd be happy for a note with page/audio location reference so I can add it to my notes, please!

Hello everyone! I'm a huge Sanderson fan and have been reading nothing but his work, listening to Writing Excuses and his lectures. I'm a writer and I find his work to be massively inspirational. I'm currently reading The Way of Kings but Mistborn is hands down my all-time favorite series. Ive read the forums randomly before but never joined until I saw I can get some of his unpublished work so I couldn't help myself. With that said, I'm excited to interact with fellow Sanderson fans!!!

I really can't take the credit, its referenced on the coppermind

It would provide evidence, potentially, had you not already made the erroneous claim that you thought the movement was caused by a servant of Odium, as my client has proved not to be. Consider the hypothetical. A man, armed with a gun, walks up a street. He hears movement, and without looking, shoots the source of the movement. Regardless of whether the movement is caused by a passerby, or an assailant, the action consitutes murder, for it is committed before the perpetrator has determined that they are acting in defence of their self, or their property. (Ecthelion, care to put this to the spec doc as a jury? No offense, but I suspect that you might be slightly biased...)

When - at 4 am - you're trying to fit a curve to Heightenings Breath amounts.

"Whether or not he was attempting to steal or not is an entirely moot point. You would have been quite permitted to defend your property, if you knew that that is what you were doing. As you have admitted, however, you acted with force, striking an individual, before learning that they sought to steal your property. My client may well be guilty of attempted theft, but that is a separate matter, and one which has no bearing on your defence. You did not strike out to defend your property. You struck out, and were fortuitous that in so doing, you defended your property. Call my client, please, although we may have to move the location of this trial to do so, but it will not clear you of assault. If you'd known that it was a robber, whoever they were, you could have legally defended your property, but to act in such a manner because you merely "sensed movement" represents clear and uncontroversial grounds for a charge of assault.

Whoa whoa whoa, hang on a moment, guys. This is just a case of mistaken identity. I'm just a disembodied voice in everyone's heads, rendering me completely incapable of committing any crime. (And by the way, that includes the charges of impersonating a judge. Not only did I never claim to be a Silverlight-certified judge, but as a purely disembodied voice, you will find that any evidence relating to that incident would be purely circumstantial. Now, the whole "just because I can combust the world doesn't mean I will combust the world" thing was me, Phil, not my pal Mr. Hooded Cloak here. So get off Remnant's back, ok? I stand by Requiem's defense. - I have an essay I need to finish tonight, so if it's okay with all of you, I'd like to extend the cycle another 24 hours.

"Requiem, you are an accused in an entirely separate case. You may certainly object, in your own case, which we shall come to, in due time. Silverlight legal precedent does not determine Unkalaki law, certainly, but this judge is not trying us under the jurisdiction of Unkalki, but as a seconded representative of Silverlight, where the requirement for a plaintiff to be in the spiritual realm has been deemed antiquated by the supreme court. Very well. It is therefore a simple matter to remove the charge of corruption/assuming the identity of a representative of Silverlight from Hooded Cloak, and bring a separate case against Phil shortly. Your Honour, we motion now that Requiem is silenced until the case against him begins. This is a serious breach of the integrity of the court." (OOC: Drake, this case isn't against you, and it surprises me that you're intervening in it. By all means, respond in the case against yourself, which I will type up shortly, and thank you for the clarity on Hooded Cloak/Remnant/Phil, but this is for Ecthelion to address.)

@Calderis suggested the idea of writing posts in poetic form. Here’s my attempt at an English sonnet, comparing my three favorite fantasy writers. I first read Brandon when Mistborn was new. He captured me as much as Martin did, And Robin Hobb, who wrote Fitz and the Fool. These three became the novelists I read. George Martin has the grandest epic style, Yet better suited visually for the screen. Ms. Hobb is introspective all the while Her heroes suffer horrors most obscene. But Brandon writes a clear compelling tale, With magic interwoven through his worlds. The weakest and the broken become hale – The heroes who receive their just rewards. Though Martin hasn’t finished and looks lame, The three of them deserve their well-earned fame.

I was so confused in the opposite way when I first came on the Shard and didn't know all the Era 2 book names yet, I was like "Huh? I know Brandon's Mormon, but why is everyone referencing the Book of Mormon on here?" xP (Also, on an unrelated note, I like your signature (: )

Well...Pai seems to have deliberately set out to initiate an uprising against the queen and ardentia; She quickly developed a rigorous understanding of the queen's temperament and published her analysis of how it violated all of the holy attributes. She had to know she was going to be executed. First, I find it very difficult to believe that any Herald would stick around for 4,500 years, then deliberately get themselves killed over one crumby ruler who basically is only responsible for the governance of a single city (The majority of the day to day operations and decisions appear to be handled by the highprinces and/or their regional governors). Buuut...Her primary outrage at the queen appears to stem from wastefulness and ignorance. This could represent a corruption of the attributes of "Learned" and "Giving" in the sense that, rather than promote the cultivation of those traits in others, she sought to punish and tear down those who did not exhibit them to her satisfaction. Nalan was the herald of Justice. This doesn't mean he was a judge or sought to root out criminals. In the context of a Herald come to Roshar to unite humanity against an invading army of demons, it most likely means he sought to cultivate law and order and instill a sense of justice in the people of Roshar, which is actually quite different. One interpretation of this quote from Words of Radiance is that the Revv toparchy was experiencing "disturbances," possibly in the form of revolts and/or riots, in response to their leaders prosecuting civil dissensions. Civil dissent is, in my understanding, usually related to expressions of disagreement or non-conformity with the rhetoric and legislation put forward by the ruling body. Basically, the rulers of Revv seem to have been imprisoning, punishing, or executing protesters or petitioners who disagreed with their method of governance. This is a flagrant violation of all but the most draconian interpretations of fairness, the social contract, and the rule of law. Nalan was then so impressed by the Skybreakers (somehow) resolving the conflict, that he accepted them as his followers. Alternatively, it could be interpreted as meaning that Revv descended into lawlessness and, in response to this, Nalan accepted the skybreakers as his followers and used them to reestablish order in the province. Either way, his mission wasn't executing the law, but establishing it. Speculation: He used to be all about establishing and promoting the rule of law on the macro-scale, now he hunts criminals personally and executes death sentences. He operates within the law, so he's still exhibiting the attribute of "justice" in that sense, however, he no longer shows any regard for how just the law is. I'd speculate the Paliah used to be about promoting charity, philanthropy, civil service, and education, and, in some twisted way, she still does. This might take the form of wanting to punish those who don't exemplify those attributes, spending lots of time helping maintain the Palaneum, or even teaching on the side. All of those would fulfill her attributes in some way while totally ignoring her original responsibility of promoting those attributes on a macro-scale.

We actually know that only certain spren can bond to make Radiants/Surgebinders. Honorspren bond with Windrunner, Highspren with Skybreakers, Cryptics with Lightweavers, Inkspren with Elsecallers, etc. (I don't think we know all of the specific spren that make each order, but we know each order has its own spren) Also, no, simple spren such as firespren or rotspren can't be bonded to make Radiants. EDIT: If you're curious, here is where you can find all of the orders of Radiants.

I have to admit I just mildly like Spook. I enjoy reading about him, but in a neutral sort of way. As such, never really got why he got singled out of the original crew to lead the new world. All I could see is that he was young and the others didn't really fit (although a world led by Breeze would be absolutely hilarious).

Just as the echo of Brightness Kenara's words faded a tall, green eyed man stepped forward. Hands behind his back, the man wore the blue military uniform of a man within the employ of the Kholin army. "Squadleader Teralarin reporting, Brightness!" He barked, snapping a quick salute to Kenara before deflating slightly, resting one hand on the pommel of his sword. You excitable twit, why did you salute the Brightness! Calm down and try not to make a fool of yourself... "I was sent this way because some... Strange things keep happening around me...."

when you are meant to be doing homework but somehow your web browser just happens to keep coming up with the 17th Shard instead of researching your respective essay subject.......

When you are at a camp and every new person you talk to you ask if they have read Brandon Sanderson in the vain hopes that they have- in which they haven't but somehow the conversation keeps turning back to Brandon Sanderson - everyone's like *groan* when you keep talking about it you are like YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE MISSING OUT ON

I hope you know that as a GM, I hate all of you.

This is tough for me. Thinking about it, I think there are three types of overrated characters. Characters overrated due to future plots This category is for characters like Hoid. They are somewhat mysterious, and talked about as a result. In the books we have already seen them in, however, they have done relatively little on screen. Taking them out of the story right now wouldn't change much of the currently seen plot. Renarin is another character that fits this category. Characters overrated due to humor This category is for the Lift's, Wayne's, and Lopen's. Although they have relatively small roles, people latch on to them due to their humor. These characters tend to get referenced a lot on the shard. I generally enjoy them while reading, but find the hype they get mildly annoying. They mostly seem to be love them or hate them characters. Note that this is the category stick would be in, if I considered stick a character and not an object with a cognitive aspect like every other object in the cosmere. Characters overrated due to personality This category is for characters you just don't get, even though other people seem to. @hwiles's example of Hrathen fits in this category. For me, this character would probably be Dalinar, especially as he was in WoK. His personality and inclinations were so incredibly counter to my personality and inclinations that I felt frustrated and annoyed reading his chapters. I like him more now, but I still don't think the two of us would get along. Most unerrated character: Vathi, from SotD. She is smart and quick at learning to survive in a deadly environment. Someone once asked Brandon if she is Khriss in disguise. She isn't, but the fact that it was even a question should give you some idea how storming great she is.

Pagerunner discovered harmonium. I've got mild hero worship for that alone.

The main question I want to know, is did that death date precede Dalinar receiving the visions.

Trying to logically guess a plot twist in a Sanderson book like...

Joking aside, if you were going to kill a planet with a shard shovel, wouldn't you have to use the shovel on some vital part of the planet? Normal living things don't die from a shardblade unless you hit something vital like the spine, so I imagine you would have to do something similar with the planet. Also there is the fact that a planet, especially Sel, is super Invested so there may be a chance that it may be able to heal the damage caused to its soul. If it heals faster than you can dig, it may just be impossible to "kill" a planet.

Wheel of Time: