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Hey all! I've been a Sanderson fan since grade school when I read the Alcatraz Books, and throughout Jr. High and High School have kept on reading. I've not been reading as much recently as I would like so I have some catching up to do. And as I was starting The Final Empire again today realized that I was not yet a member here. So here I am! You can find me on the Brandon Sanderson Subreddit at u/thedj47 where I am moderately active.

LG25: Night Three - Rox Felix Rox stood before the town proudly. “My Breath was stolen, yes, but it was recovered! Or how would I be standing here, when drabs have obviously been systematically killed?” “Have they been? Only two have died,” said someone suspiciously. “Well, yes, but more are obviously going to die,” Rox said, waving a hand impatiently. “Just wait and see tonight.” “I don’t think Rox escaped the drab assassin,” another said. “I think he Returned.” Rox gasped in shock. “There’s no call for such needless accusations! I am not one of those Idrian Returned! You all know me. Would I join them?” “If you Returned. If you had no other choice.” “I would never. Not even if it meant my life.” “People will do a lot for their lives,” someone commented quietly. “But… you know what? Fine.” And then Rox suddenly shifted. From a small, scrawny-looking man, he grew, his chin becoming sharper, hair lengthening slightly and softening from greasy to merely sleek, eyes darkening, body changing proportion until he was a perfect specimen of manhood. “I am Luckstar the Fortunate,” he said richly. “Let’s see you lynch me now. I am your god.” Silence spread across the square. Then, a single voice was clearly heard. “You killed Ryth and Asher!” Then there was a roar of sound. And none of Rox’s handsomeness protected him from being torn to pieces by a dozen hands. Ecth was lynched! He was a Idrian Returned! Night Three has begun. You have 24 hours to send in your actions. Vote Count Ecthelion (11): Frozen Mint, Dalinar, Conquestor, Twelfthrootoftwo, Magestar, Straw, Bard, Doctor, Meta, Lopen, Luckat Mark (1): Ecthelion Quicklinks Player List

I think I finished the first chapter of my serial web novel. It needs some improvements, I need to clean it up a little, fix my horrible character and environment descriptions, add some foreshadowing when I know what to foreshadow, but otherwise II am happy with it... oh and its a bit on the short side, but I guess it works.

I disagree here. Firstly, it's not established that he's unrepentant. Secondly, I think it's fascinating that he snapped because he seems in every other situation to be a genuinely good person. This is the guy who seems to consistently uses his position of authority and power to help the abused and underprivileged of society (see rescuing the prostitute, just because he could, and treating he with respect throughout). He is kind to those he meets regardless of station, supports his quasi-fiancée through his own quiet, unassuming competence (there's a great discussion of this in the last few chapters of the TOR reread, where Adolin quietly arranges for everything Shallan needs so she's not distracted by small concerns). Every interaction we see him have with his underlings is respectful, kind and generous, and as far as I can tell it's all natural to him: not an air he puts on to impress people. He appears to be a genuinely kind, generous, warm-hearted person. Then he snaps and murders a dude. A dude who IS an unrepentant murderer and manipulator, one who will gladly sacrifice the greater good for his own personal benefit, one who can only be described as a foolish, selfish villain. And crucially, someone who is impossible to prosecute, who considers himself above the law and will use force to ensure that he is. So Adolin takes the law into his own hands and kills him. Which is a FASCINATING character arc, one I really hope Sanderson explores in depth!

A firearm is a gun. A weapon can be anything used offensively or defensively. As for guns in the US.... Depends on which American you ask. Guns are a pretty contentious topic in the US right now, so you'll get a different answer depending on who you ask. Some Americans think Europe's stricter gun control laws are the best way to handle guns and should be implemented in the US; others see them as impractical or even dangerous; still others see gun control as a violation of individual rights; others believe the concept of individual gun rights is a misinterpretation of the Constitution. Personally, I was raised around guns, taught proper gun safety from the time I could walk, and so I see guns as tools. They're powerful and dangerous tools, and should be handled with care, but they're not inherently bad. Where I grew up, guns were used primarily for recreational shooting and hunting; gun safety was a part of the culture, and accidents were rare. That said, I know guns can cause problems. Mass shootings, accidental deaths, gang violence--guns are used in all of those, but I don't think banning guns outright is the answer. The US isn't sealocked like Australia (often used as an example of successful gun control); if guns were banned here, those who wanted them could smuggle them in over the Mexican border. It would be primarily law-abiding citizens who surrendered their guns in the first place as well. So I don't see a gun ban as the answer. It worked in Australia, yes, but what works in one country won't necessarily work in another. Transplanting solutions wholesale without taking cultural and geographical differences into account won't solve the problem without creating another. I would support strengthening the limits the US already places on firearms, and adding some new ones. Mandatory waiting periods are already in place, psychological testing is a good idea in my opinion, and gun safety classes are already mandatory for obtaining one's permit. I'd take it one step further and mandate basic gun safety for everyone, to minimize accidental shooting deaths. Closing loopholes would be another step toward keeping the wrong people from having guns. Essentially, guns are a part of American culture, for better or for worse. They're not going anywhere--not without creating a slew of new problems, anyway--so I think the best thing we can do is learn how to coexist with them.

Round Four: Fourteen Left This is Al Vron reporting from The Arena. This seasons game is really shaping up nicely. Some of the new faces are showing some real potential and some of the Veterans seem to hitting a new level of play. The results have made for some dynamite action so far, so sit back and enjoy some live action Sennti style. In this type of match you really need to keep an eye on your surroundings. I mean look at that, one moment you’re engaged in a duel against one competitor only to have another one come from out of nowhere and take you out. You put up a good fight NCL but sadly it just wasn’t good enough. Now that's just cruel. Killing someone I can understand but to parade around displaying The Healers head for all to see is really taking it too far. After all, he only wanted to help. But the fans sure seem to love it and who am I to disagree with the fans. Magestar has taken his own life rather than give the satisfaction of killing him to the mob. A move that may well force everyone to question just who they are. Lamron and Guilty seem to be chilling out in what remains of the sauna. Or they were until it collapsed on top of them. Are they still alive? Will anyone dig them out? Does anyone care? Stay tuned to find out Sennti fans. Magestar has been lynched. They were from Nathis Young Bard has been killed. They were from Nathis Doctor has been killed. They were from Nathis Mark has been crushed. They were from Scadrial Elodin has been crushed. They were from Scadrial Vote Tally: Magestar(7): Burnt, Wilson, Magestar, Conquestor, Joe, Silverblade, Nyali Burnt(2): Elenion, Doctor Round Four has begun. You have 47.5 hours. Even numbered round means Lottery time. This Lottery we have 5 items. 1. Reviver: This handy device can bring back one player from Deaths Door. In order for this device to work the player targeted must have died during the prior cycle. Any longer than that and they would’ve passed through to the other side. 2. Detonator Glass: If you are killed while holding this item then your attacker shall be blown up into teeny tiny pieces unless they have some protection. Doesn’t work on lynchings. Inactive if entering Lottery. 3. Flash Bang Grenade: This one use grenade can be used to cancel the vote and action of one player. 4. Void Sphere: This item allows the holder to enter a void space which protects from all actions and votes for the cycle it is used on. (Removes name from lynching poll causing the next highest voted player to be lynched instead.) Users vote is also cancelled. Can only be used on holder. 5. Syphon: This diabolical device can be used to drain one life from another player and add it to your own. If the player targeted only has one life then this will kill that player. (Contains one charge.)

Illegally cute. I call foul. Ed bird doing her education job. Educating us on cute.

It's not brilliance to know what necroing a thread is and it's definitely not brilliance to know that telling people that they should not be on the site just because they can't read a book fast enough is rude. So nope, it's definitely not difficult as I am not particularly brilliant and it seems that I'm just about the Shard's average. I hope it won't be difficult for you, to suffer our average wits and simple thoughts.

1) You do realize the post you're quoting is over six months old? 2) You do realize that the thread you're posting on is almost six months old? 3) You do realize that my post was refering to the fact that at the time it was just a few days since the spoiler-ban in Cosmere Theories ceased to exist? Few people keep tabs on when the spoiler policy would allows things to be posted outside of their respective subforums and I was a pretty fresh member back then. So I did not know that. 4) You do realize that not all people here are lucky enough to live in USA or English speaking countries and have the books released immediately? There are some that just won't pay three times more just so they could read it in English (and probably ebook, at that). If you do not know that, you should probably not be on this website in the first place. Or, even better, you could think before you post something.

I don't really want to see the Shalladin ship doing anything but sinking. Because I think it would be way cool to see a Shalladin non-romantic relationship. Working together as friends, or like siblings. It just seems to fit their characters so much better. That and I totally ship her with Adolin. Let the nice guy win this one by being generally nice and competent, instead of having another broody mcgloomalot be oh so alluring and attractive.

Something I saw on the Cosmere Q&A sparked this idea. The general process of Returning works thusly: A person dies, their soul is shown a picture of some bad future (or at least some facet of it that they care about), and then the soul is given the choice of whether or not to Return. If they accept, they gain a Divine Breath and Return as a 5th-Heightening amnesiac that needs an additional Breath each week. However, there's something odd going on. Why do the memories not return when the person does? If it were the actual soul (or rather, the Cognitive and Spiritual aspects of that person) returning, the memories they had would come with them (as part of the Cognitive aspect of that soul). This is very much not the case (as it would severely simplify and obviate the major mystery of Lightsong's character, among others), but what is interesting is that muscle memory is maintained (juggling vs. pottery, for example), attitudes are maintained (Lightsong instinctually rebelling against the gods' lifestyle, instinctually calling Llarimar "Scoot"), but not memory. My conclusion is that the Returned is not the original soul but is instead a Divine Breath in the shape of the original soul. The spiritual Connections remain in place, and the Physical body of course has not moved during the process of Returning, but the Cognitive is absent entirely. The process of Returning, therefore, is a "half as long, twice as bright" version of making a Lifeless, that only Endowment can do because She can see into all 3 realms. What happens to the soul? I suspect that this shaping forges a Connection between the soul and the body, and therefore the soul sticks around as a Cognitive Shadow, watching their body work toward the goal set by Endowment's Awakening. (Maybe that's why the Returned needs so much Breath - it's all going to sustain the original soul in the Cognitive Realm)

When Shallan meets Kaladin in the war camp in Words of Radiance she gets into a fight with him and she said a lot of really uncalled for things. First, off Kaladin is the Captain of the King's guard so he has to check everyone thoroughly and Shallan had already lied to him so he had no reason to trust her. She acts really spoiled when she feels offended when Kaladin doesn't trust her. Second, when she attacks Kaladin's parents and says that Kaladin never knew them. Seriously, what the Hell Shallan? Just, because Kaladin is a Darkeyes you assume that his home life was terrible? Also, she was no one to talk about a bad home life. While we are at the conversation, Kaladin's dig at Shallan's ancestors mating with sponges was also uncalled for, especially since he is such good friends with Rock. I know this conversation was to show these characters starting at each others' throats, but seriously what was with all of those low blows?

Don't you mean you call fowl?

Spoilering just in case

This precisely. With Shallan, I think this was also supposed to show that despite Shallan being so sympathetic a protagonist (arguable - I admit I'm not fond of her at all), she's still a Lighteyes, and has been brought up as such, with the outlook this implies. This is, basically, our introduction to how many lighteyes portray darkeyes: as people who are supposed to bow down to lighteyes' every wish and who don't care about those oh so important things like lineage. As for Kaladin, I think it's both to show that he too can be a jackass, but also to portray that he was losing his cool over Shallan's treatment of him, both before and after. He hates lighteyes for a multitude of reasons, and Shallan's behaviour pushed all of those buttons like a fist smashing a keyboard. Kaladin let loose with the insults, because in contrast to other annoying lighteyes like Matal (?), Sadeas and Amaram, here he doesn't feel like he'll suffer consequences for screaming at her, and so he's free to vent his frustrations.

This was probably to show that despite that we empathize with them (mostly because we see their thoughts and the reasons behind their actions), they can be just as unpersonable and rude as everyone else. I think that scene did a good job to humanize them.

Great post here. I agree with all of it though I must admit Adolin's quiet competence and selflessness in wanting to care for others before himself did made me wonder if there is anyone out there to care for him... I mean, in the scene you are referring to, Adolin is the one who got injured, he is the one who had been fighting for hours and he is the one who receive not one, but several trashing. By my personal estimation, he needed those blankets and the quiet down time more than Shallan, but he doesn't take it. Sure, it is admirable, but I certainly do not want Adolin to erase himself behind Shallan's greatness simply because it is within him to forget his own self. I'd want him to have a spouse who would see to his needs as well... Shallan missed the chance right here: she could have turned back one of the blankets, for him. It would have been sweet... but instead she is making the statement she'll take all that Adolin is willing to give to her without giving anything in return. I don't like it when I over-analyse those scenes as this isn't a tangential I wish for their union to take. Hopefully, Shallan will realize relationships work both ways: Adolin is givng out a lot for her, it is time she gives some for him. If she truly cares about him, then this would be the next step. The snapping was a great arc to trust Adolin's character into. The nicest, kindest and most selfless character gets to do the most horrible killing on the show. Classic, but terribly effective if the author gives it the appropriate focus. The supposedly strong, normal and over-confident dude ends up being the most vulnerable as he is the one to crack under the pressure. He's the one who couldn't take the rapid changes the arrival of the Radiants are causing, he's the one who couldn't deal with the additional stress of Sadeas's threats and it was all very fascinating indeed. I really hope Sanderson explores it in its full depth, but based on what he said lately, it doesn't seem likely He just thinks Adolin isn't a character which needs to be at the forefront, he thinks the character doesn't need a stronger focus nor more page time. He thinks he works very well, as a supporting character, he thinks he adds a lot to the story without demanding much which is why he isn't compel to write more of him. He doesn't think it is required because he doesn't feel Adolin has secrets nor layers to uncover. Obviously, I couldn't disagree more as all of those posts where several readers have discussed Adolin proves one thing: there is much to be said about the character and he does have unsuspected depth. Sadly, the author doesn't agree. At all.

The Hugo Awards - well, that was... weird. After my first participation in World Con (as a non-attending member) and voting for the Hugos (and Campbell), I find myself largely satisfied if somewhat mystified by the whole affair. I found the results fascinating. Of the 17 awards (including the Campbell), I only 'got four right' and one of these was the 'No Award' for Best Related Work. Am I therefore out of touch with SFF, a dinosaur in a brave new world with a shifting genre landscape and exotic new species of fiction? No, not really, because three of my second choices won. But I really thought some of the submissions, and winners, were less inventive and surprising than they should have been. I'd be interested to hear anyone's experiences (and I don't mean performance, I know voting is not a competition to be 'right' ) and opinion. At the risk of skirting the edge of calumniation (isn't that a good word, just discovered this variant of calumny!), I'll start the ball rolling. The Martian, really? I can't say a bad thing about the book, not read it, and I'm sure it's wonderful and Andy Weir is a fantastic chap, but I thought the film was a glib Disnification lacking any edge or real suspense. And it wins over Fury Road, a mesmerizing, outrageously inventive, visually jaw-dropping film with a crippled female lead, and Ex Machina, a challenging and taught examination of the nature of humanity and issues that the world is actually staring down the barrel of as we rush headlong into our subjugation at the mechanical hands of our own invention (et tu, Frankenstein...)? Pah, I give up - I'm off to see Bad Moms...

You do realise that you just called an unrepentant murderer a "nice guy," right? I mean, I agree with you that Shalladin should hit an iceberg or something, but come on. Adolin has more to him than being just a cheery extrovert, it's the reason he's a viewpoint character at all. I mean, sure, he has a sunnier disposition, but Adolin has his own dark side and all. He's not a "nice guy" in anything but the Nice Guy™ branding kind of way.

Ok it took me a while ( I have really good memory but it's hard to find a specific reference on the forum, often I read a WoB and in my mind I remember it as concept not the exact wording). This WoB has spoilers from Mistborn SH and BoM and some SA books: This resume what I want to say. An Allomancer isn't high Invested and he became Invested only when he burns metals. But the usage of Allomancy twist the user's spiritweb (forging new connection) that made them capable of "hang around" longer. I am sorry if before I made myself unclear.

Rofl - no, really, it's fine. Any resemblance between me and Sir John of Cleese is purely tenuous and largely confined to the mind of @krystalynn03

Probably the same reason the Reshi greatshell saved Rysn

I am not active on twitter, so I missed it If the aftermath of Sadeas's death isn't broach within Adolin's POV until the end of the book, then it will be a severe disappointment. I had always felt this arc belonged to Adolin (and not Dalinar or anyone else), therefore to find out Brandon's team doesn't agree it does is truly baffling. We need Adolin's POV, early in book 3: without it, I can't envision how the book could be satisfactory. I'd therefore say, reading a few sentences late in the book of how it may have happen from Adolin's POV is not satisfactory. This was supposed to be his arc, why isn't it his arc?

So. . . Ghostbloods The band, eh? What about. . . Bridge four the band!(I challenge you to draw that. But I won't force you.)"and then KAladin flew down from the sky, weilding. . . Was that a. . . Shardguitar?"

I will be making butterbeer tonight. Wish me luck.

According to my experience with romance or love triangle, there is a very high chance that Kaladin would win Shallan's hand. However, I stay with Adolin. I just hope a kind guy like him remains kind, and finally gets the real love he needs. But with the way things are set up, I see Adolin getting dark soon, and Shallan shying away from him. I just hope it doesn't happen. Too cliche. Too frequent. And too bad. Moreover, no matter how much the author wants us believe that Shallan is a suitable match for Kaladin, I just don't buy it. Kaladin deserves a different person, someone who could be the real light Tien was, not someone who retorts in every conversation and makes other people uncomfortable with her supposed wittiness. So, let Shallan stay with Adolin. Please.

I think several things need to be kept in mind when it comes to Shallan: she hardly ever have third person's perspective. It is thus each time we are reading her, we are reading her own personal thoughts. This implies each time we are being told others are reacting in a given way towards Shallan, we aren't truly reading this individual's thoughts on Shallan: we are reading what Shallan thinks this person thinks of her. See the difference? People do not marvel in pure ecstasy each time she opens her mouth: Shallan believes they do. People aren't constantly praising her outstanding intelligence: Shallan perceives they do. Unfortunately, Shallan is a very unreliable narrator who takes in, who absorbs only what she wishes to. As Blightsong so nicely put it: she is insane. She mushes reality so it will fit how she wishes others to perceive her: she crafts lies and truths around her hoping to become this image of herself she has made. She firmly believes if she were to face life face on, without lies, she'd be nothing more than a ball crying endlessly. She isn't strong enough yet to accept she doesn't need this crazy plotting not to break down or perhaps it is within her nature as a Lightweaver. After all, her entire progression has been geared around her accepting facts, about stopping fearing the truth so much, but she isn't there yet. Therefore, her thoughts on reality aren't... reality. Not completely. If we were to read third person's perspective on her, we would probably read a much different story. She's a bright girl, there is no denying it, but she isn't as clever as she thinks she is. She isn't half as smart as she constantly tries to make us believe she is. She is over-confident, she is careless, she is rushing into the unknown without proper preparations and she is stupid enough to think she fooled an ageless private secret organization known for its stealth. Just because she stumbled on a spanreed conversation and she put on a disguise, she naively believes they bought her game. They didn't. You aren't a worthy secret society working in the shadows towards an unreadable agenda, cleverly assassinating your enemies, if you can't see through the poor attempt an inexperienced 17 years old girl is doing at fooling you. Even Sebrarial, she didn't fool. She hid her age, this is true, but he admits later on he agreed to her bluff merely out of curiosity. I would also note the other Highprinces were highly curious about Shallan: everyone wonders who will get her hands on Prince Adolin. It was a calculated risk: if she turned out being a burden, he could still throw her out. He had nothing to lose as for her "salary", it is barely enough to sustain her personal slaves and guards, so hardly a luxury. As for Dalinar, yes he is uptight, but it has been made very clear it was his way to control his emotionally impulsive side. He hated the man he once was, he couldn't control himself, therefore he sought to implement a strict code of life to prevent him from ever stepping into those former shoes again. This being said, Dalinar isn't a block of ice: he has feelings and his feelings for Navani are both very strong and very real. He wrestles with himself on several occasions, wondering if being with her was the right choice, stating outright he feared his love for her would destroy the careful control he has been able to establish. If he were to refuse her, to send her away on the pretense he has to be uptight at all costs, then he wouldn't be such an interesting character: this duality in him, this desire to control combined with his feelings are what make him compelling. I do not know how else to state it. As for his kids, they are adults. Single-parents shouldn't prevent themselves from dating again simply because their adult children may throw a tantrum. Each time we read those characters, we have to be careful to separate the character's thoughts from how others perceive them. I feel you are mad for characters not behaving in the way you would personally approve of. I may be reading you wrong here, so please correct me if I did, but it seems to me as if you wish all characters were Kaladin or very similar to Kaladin... Wouldn't this be boring? I love the diversity we have going on here: each character has its own duality, his own fight and all are interesting.

(Note: an updated version can be found here.) Dr. Seuss One spren, two spren, Lie spren, truth spren. Are the blue spren truly glue spren? This one makes a skyeel fly, That one shows up when you die. Oh what a lot of spren I spy! You have light in your spheres, You have shards in your hand, You have surges to help you to fly and to land! So where will you go? Somewhere high? Somewhere low? To the great Reshi Isles, or somewhere with snow? Perhaps you will dine on some Horneater Stew, Delivered directly through Urithiru. Or maybe the Shin will sell you a chicken (eating it helps Thaylen eyebrows to thicken). There’s so many places and people and spren, It’s easy to wonder just where your path ends. But please, don’t forget, it’s the way that you walk that matters much more than the place that you stop. Yes, the road that you take, whether straight, curved, or bendy always matters the most—just ask the Parshendi.

I totally saw Brandon the other day, and he was getting drunk on stormlight. He was so drunk that when I offered to help him carry the giant vats of concrete he was lugging around (don't ask), he just handed me some notes on his plans for Stones Unhallowed and walked away. Being a loyal fan of Brandonalsium, I decided to do the only logical thing and post what will happen in the next book for all to see. I hope you enjoy having Stormlight Archive #3 ruined for you! - The prologue is Elhokar at the party where Gavilar died. He notices Dalinar following the codes as Gavilar said. Then, the two mysterious men convince him to trick Dalinar into getting completely wasted. He gets Dalinar drunk, then gives Szeth directions to Gavilar's room, gives Sadeas the handbook on how to stop the Desolations (it was the only one of its kind, and Sadeas destroys it), gives Venli the tip that she needs to unlock Stormform, and gives Darkness a list of crimes committed by all Surgebinders so that he can kill them. Adolin is also revealed to have dated Shallash. - In present day, the Ghostbloods say that Shallan must find true love if she wants to join them. She angsts over whether she loves Kaladin or Adolin. - Kaladin flies in to Hearthstone in the middle of Roshone's marriage to Laral (it was a really long engagement). Roshone has now grown an evil goatee and intends to push his new button that gives supreme power to Odium once he gets married. Kaladin bursts in and gives his objection right before the vows. Everyone cheers that Kaladin saved the day, only for a brick to knock him out. - Jasnah has to babysit Baby Odium, the suckling child from WoK Chapter 57's Death Rattle. - Szeth decides to chase his dream and become a rockstar. It is revealed in his flashbacks that everyone in Shinovar discouraged this dream because stone was sacred. Szeth was sad, but then he saw someone Soulcasting some grass into a guitar. Using the guitar, he rocked out, singing that the end was coming. He was made Truthless because his music was too loud. - It's revealed that Lirin has turned evil and crowned himself Emperor of Hearthstone. Kaladin, Roshone, Laral, Jost's Dad, and Hesina team up to stop Lirin from upgrading the Voidbringers into the Super Voidbringers. However, when Kaladin tries to fight him, Lirin goes Super Saiyan and defeats Kaladin, telling him that he has to unlock more true potential. - Dalinar confesses that he doesn't remember his wife, only to find out that her name actually is "Shshshshshshsh". - Jasnah runs into a hat-obsessed man who likes drinking metal, claims that two and two equals pickle, can regenerate and slow time, is a master of disguise, and hates guns. Brandon's notes indicate that he is indeed a worldhopper: Hrathen. - The Highspren cause Highstorms, but they've grown tired of it so they give Adolin the power to make Highstorms. - Shallan actually does draw herself as a bridgeman, causing her to realize that she loves Kaladin. - Kaladin decides to say the Fourth Oath to get enough power to defeat Emperor Lirin. However, when he learns that it's, "I will not go after my friend's girl", he refuses to say it. - Dalinar walks up to Shallan and says, "Kaladin killed Helaran" with no context, then walks away. - Nalan is also in possession of a giant block of ice in which Spook has cryogenically frozen himself. - The recurring Interlude character (like Szeth in WoK and Eshonai in WoR) is Mazrim Taim. - Ghost Sadeas appears and swears the Oath, "The death is my life, the strength becomes my weakness, the journey has ended", causing him to transform into Sataneas. - Kaladin tries to flee Hearthstone, but ends up tripping over and unplugging a power cord. This gets rid of Emperor Lirin's power, and Kaladin easily defeats him. As thanks for stopping Lirin, Laral gives Kaladin a big smooch. However, as she does, Shallan walks in, gasps, and runs away. Kaladin chases after her saying that he can explain and we see no more of them in this book. - To raise money for the new Radiants, Dalinar and Renarin start a car wash. However, Amaram's 1974 Parsher truck turns out to be a Carform Parshendi, which turns into the legendary Voidmobile when Adolin hits it with a Highstorm. - Lopen is part of the 11th Radiant Order, the Ganchos. - Szeth and Darkness can't get into Shinovar because there's a ten dollar admission fee. Spook defrosts and the trio go on an epic quest to find ten dollars. - Derethil is still alive and the Aesudan subplot is resolved when Wandersail falls from the sky and crushes her. - Nan Balat reveals that Shallan's mom's name was 'Restares Davar'. - Szeth, Spook, and Darkness run into Jasnah, owner of Roshar's last ten dollars. Szeth and Jasnah bond over their mutual fakeout deaths. - Navani falls into a parallel dimension where Steelheart, The Rithmatist, and Alcatraz are part of the Cosmere. - Lift eats Sadeas's body, causing Sataneas to get mad. - Szeth finally gets back to Shinovar with the ten dollar admission fee, only to find out that they're closed for the summer. - Taravangian finds love. - Adolin gets a puppy and names it Sureblood Jr. However, his puppy gets eaten by TenSoon. - It's revealed that Odium wants to destroy the Cosmere because he got friendzoned by Cultivation. - The Nightwatcher is revealed to actually be the Nightwasher, and only gives you a boon and a curse if you wash your dishes. - Eshonai wakes up and finds that she has been rebuilt into a cyborg. - It's revealed that the Ten Fools founded a group called the Knights Radian. It takes two orders to form a Knights Diameter. - The big twists of the book are: 1. The Recreance happened becuase the Knights Radiant were no longer given a discount on fast food. 2. Elhokar has already been assassinated and Danlan has tricked everyone into thinking that she is Elhokar. 3. The masked Ghostblood is Stella, daughter of Dalinar and Vin, master of all Radiant powers, only one who can stop Odium, and love interest of Hoid. (Totally not a Mary Sue.) 4. Nohadon plaigirized The Way of Kings, stealing it in its entirety from How to be Evil by Dilaf. 5. Lift gets a Shardfork. 6. Ronald McDonald is coming to Roshar. I hope you are all happy to have the book utterly spoiled! Sorry Brandon, but I had to share this new info.

And what I'm saying is that his actions up to this point, have been kind, generous and thoughtful. That's what I'm judging him by. As it stands currently, he has just committed a terrible crime, while under an incredible amount of stress. What will he do next? How will he respond? That will definitely determine what I think of him in the future. As it stands, he committed an action that is way out of his typical character, while under extreme stress and has only responded to that action through his state of extreme stress. This brief moment of one action is not enough to effectively change my judgement of his character. However, how he responds in the next book may alter my perception of him. TL;DR - Up until now Adolin has been an extremely kind, and generous person. That is what my judgement of him is based on. He has recently committed murder, but has not responded to it save while under extreme stress. I will wait to significantly alter my judgement of his character until I see how he responds to what he just did.

I agree with Erunion. Adolin is in shock and the first stage of shock state is denial. Currently, he is within his denial phase and since he can't accept what he did, he hid the body the same way a small child would hide the broken jar for fear of being grounded. He isn't unrepentant, he is traumatized. If he were unrepentant, he'd act smug, he'd be pleased with himself, he'd smile and rob his hands with satisfaction, but he wouldn't stand there completely dazed trying to clean the scene. The cleaning scene is so broken down, so much has been left out, so few details, we get Adolin is just so dizzy he doesn't think things through. We had this discussion in another thread. Hence, it isn't he is unrepentant, he's in shock. I SO want to read his mental response....... If only

Still disagree with you - you can be both a truly nice person and, under the right circumstances, be willing to commit murder. Especially second degree murder, for what are essentially the right reasons, which is the case here. The fascinating part is examining the juxtaposition! If he pre planned a murder? Or if he made a habit of it? That would definitely make him 'not a nice guy'. Furthermore, hiding a body in the immediate aftermath of a murder (when you're going 'holy crap what did I just do'), does not necessarily make you unrepentant. For now. We'll see what his internal characteristics are like later on. How he responds to it mentally.

I think a lot of his issues is prob just adjusting to our climate. 1st summers here can be rough on all life forms I find. Hopefully by this time next yr if your still in state he will have adapted fully. Atleast fall is right around the corner so his flea/skin issue will catch a massive break come October.

Would you mind linking a source? It's a totally news to me. BTW, we're all talking about how Adolin has no PoVs in the Part One... but what if the Part One is not really long (days-wise)? I mean, there may be going on so much that the part One would be a day or two without much going on in Adolin's arc. Then it would kick off with part Two.

Surely he meant to say heal Megan, since that's what he did. Hurt Stephen; heal Joel. 1. David--14 2. Megan--17 3. Cody--15 5. Abraham--3 7. Mizzy--5 9. Joel--16 10. Melody--16 17. Stephen Leeds--14

So I am a new Brandon Sanderson reader, and have only fully read one book of his; which was Steelheart. I have just started reading The Way Of Kings, I have the second Stormlight Novel and I also have Elantris. I am only on Chapter 7 of TWOK and I understand don't get me wrong but I am feeling a bit overwhelmed. This is my first epic fantasy novel of this size and I am sort of having a information overload. I will read a chapter and than feel like I missed something important. Should I take notes? Is this normal? Am I weird? haha * not the place for this so ignore if you want but I heard about Sandersons Cosmere... Is the TWOK okay to read if I havn't read any of the other books in the cosmere? How do I know when Hoid is in the books or anything along the cosmere lines? * Also are these random quotes before very chaper important at all because I am making no sense of them atm...

Steady on, NG, I think we might have agreed on something there ;o)

Quick reply as I get some time to comment. I think everything I saw was already covered, so I'll list the things I second where some more edits are needed: Too much magic here. I'm getting lost with who can control what and why. Lots of action, and the blocking needs some more work to be understandable. Maybe some more description of the environment? Characters--I was also lost on who Annika was. POV shift--I'm with @kaisa. Might be cool to see the whole thing through Riley's father's eyes, or Rileys. But we don't know much about the characters yet Riley and her mom--yeah, this didn't work for me either. I'm wondering why two professional thieves aren't just bringing their daughter up the same way. They could easily take her on missions, and you haven't given us anything yet to tell us she's not competent to do just that. I do still find your writing style engaging, and I want to learn more about this world and the characters. Just needs some cleaning up to make the flow better.

Vaguely... I actually don't remember why I put it there. I think it's because a few people do seem to be tunneling on you, and I think it seems like a desperate Elim sort of thing, even from Meta, who I did not fully trust to begin with. I really hope Ecth is an Elim, and that I'm not wasting time and energy fighting Meta.

He has different ranking for characters: primary, secondary, tertiary, interlude, novella and occasional. Each Stormlight Archive book is comprised of several books: the main narrative which features the primary, the secondary and the tertiary characters; the flashbacks which features the primary character; the interlude which features several characters usually uncorrelated with the main ones; the novella which is a short story focusing on one specific character. In the case of book 3, we are getting two novellas: one within the interlude (previously was Szeth, then Eshonai) and one within Part 2. While we do not know which characters either will focus on (and the information is RAFO because spoiler-y), we do know it someone typically unconnected to the main cast (so not Jasnah). Gaz and are Teft occasional POV characters meaning they had one short POV during one specific moment. These happen, but they aren't tertiary characters. I am unsure what Sadeas's classification would be, but since his name appeared on the Parts title page, I'd say he probably ranked as a lesser tertiary character. Adolin is a tertiary character which means he has POV within a few selected parts only. According to the plan, no tertiary characters have POV within Part 1 which means we are 100% guaranteed not to read Adolin's POV within Part 1. An occasional POV character, such as Gaz or Teft, may have a small POV within any given part without being announced, but Adolin isn't such a character. When are we getting Adolin's POV? I have no idea. I do know Brandon is currently working on Part 3 and he did say he needed to take a break to write the Szeth's flashback sequences because he feared he may create inconsistencies within the main narrative which indicates Szeth is one of the tertiary characters featured in either Part 3 or Part 4. It doesn't say much, truth to be told. Therefore while we could get Adolin's POV within Part 2, we could also have to wait for Part 4, I simply cannot say. My hopes are set on Part 2, but Part 2 is supposed to be so bizarre I honestly do not know what to think of it nor what to expect. It is thus, unless the beta readers come across saying the lack of Adolin's POV within Part 1 is a no-go and terrible for the story flow (which I doubt will happen), then it is highly unlikely we are getting his thoughts on the aftermath of Sadeas. We aren't going to read Adolin wondering about what he should do or anything as by the time we get his POV, this arc will probably be long pass and gone. It won't happen through his head, but through Dalinar's. Why? I honestly do not know, I am not the author, but based on the answers he has given in the past, I'd say Brandon doesn't feel, as a whole, Adolin is a character he needs to focus strongly on. He says what we see is what we get, so there is no need to further explore him. In other words, he doesn't think he is secretive and introspective enough to require more page time, that and the fact he was just never planned as a viewpoint character. Being an extroverted person myself, I feel completely deflated at being told characters such as Adolin aren't interesting enough to need page time nor focus, but at this point, we are tackling within personal preferences. It may just be the author prefers focusing on other kind of characters and Adolin isn't a character he finds as interesting as some of his readers do. I mean, authors have preference, quirks and such... and given his other books, it seems obvious he prefers working with characters with a dark past who do not talk much or characters having a disability or whom are mentally ill. The fall arc doesn't seem to be something he tends to write, on a general basis. But, who knows, maybe it'll turn out being a very satisfactory arc for Adolin, despite the odds, but it looks rather grim right now.

I imagine the Ministry of Silly Walks can support more than one member when need arises!

Quirks are understandable, it doesn't make them right. Shallan was wrong to snap at Adolin without explaining him why. She was wrong to hold against him a very classic behavior on the fault of her trauma which he is completely unaware of. Poor Adolin who already has a hard time with relationships, in general, is now forced to walk on eggs around Shallan because she refuses to give him even the slightest clue about her past. Of course, it is highly understandable, just wrong of her to behave this way with him. Still, I don't personally see it as a deal breaker, not yet. Yes Adolin understood and is bond to not do the mistake again, but Adolin has also been known to do what people expect or ask him to do. It has been my main cause of problems with the shipping discussion: nobody takes the time to wonder what it means for Adolin: it is all about Shallan and Kaladin, either together or not as if Adolin wasn't a character worth exploring. Everyone in SA is considered more interesting than Adolin... and it saddens me. Shallan does see the imprisonment, but she mostly see Kaladin acting like a jerk towards Adolin obviously trying to be nice to him. At this point in time, while she likely, internally, acknowledge Kaladin has saved Adolin's life, she also considers his efforts were rewarded enough and it is his time to mellow down. So maybe if Kaladin had been nicer, she would have felt inclined to thank him, but Kaladin purposefully insulted Adolin, trying to make him appear dumb in front of Shallan. I can see the analogy in between the Aes Sedai/Warder and Shallan/Adolin, but I somehow do not like it so much. Professional deformation obliged, I'd wish for Adolin to find a more worthy role than merely standing tall, stoic and not talking being a great Aes Sedai who does all the work. I don't think Jasnah and Kaladin would work: she is everything he hates about lighteyed. She is cold, dismissive, privilege in ways he'll never be able to accept. Really, the only reason so many people ship them together is because she is a smart scholar and many readers have decided Kaladin was highly intelligent. I honestly can't see those two working out: they just don't fit, but if the author wants them to fit, then huh he'll make them fit, so we'll RAFO on that one.

The idea of a fire burning for months on end never ceases to blow my mind.

I like this. RECKONERS IS COSMERE

Oh boy this sounds like fun! Donald Trump's ginger cousin and his genetically modified cat concierge perform an intimidating dance number in an attempt to scare voters into electing Donald to the presidency. Someone who's never watched Stargate Atlantis, explain this picture.

I highly doubt Demoux was a worldhopper before HoA. He was very much a naive young guy, and I don't see a worldhopper with knowledge of Adonalsium helping found a religion that worships Kelsier. My guess is that he got recruited into the Seventeenth Shard sometime after the Catacendre.

Stormlight Archives Regency Romance PART TWO If this stranger, this Doctor Kaladin, had been properly courteous - or even good-humoured in the least, in his manner - Shallan would have felt no inclination to respond with insolence. But he had not the air of an elegant gentleman; that surely would have made her shy instinctively towards girlish hesitance. Doctor Kaladin had instead a dark face with heavy brow furrowed in irritation; though he was young - not much older than her, on inspection - his face had none of the softness or gentleness of youth; his lips were set into a stern line. This Kaladin creature spoke with the cultured tones of gentle breeding; despite this, he seemed set on being disagreeable from the start: Shallan had always thought herself sympathetic with those of lesser station, but here, she could feel nothing but antipathy. "Aye, ye be addressing the Lady Shallan," said Shallan, exaggerating her rural accent to one fitting of the servants back home. Her former governess, Madame Tyn, made a study of regional accents and dialects, and had taught her on the condition to never speak like that in front of distinguished company. That would hardly apply to Kaladin. "Pledged clanswoman and shieldbearer to The McValam." "You don't sound like a lady," remarked Kaladin bluntly. She gave him shallow curtsey, no more than a mere dip of the knees, and with a curt toss of her head, circled around him. "Ye dinna look like any doctor I ken," Shallan said. "A real surgeon would ha' better hair than yers, I reckon. Do ye keep it for emergency bandages?" Kaladin sputtered. "Emergency bandages-" "Too stringy fer tha', maybe. Emergency sutures, more like." Kaladin's brows gathered together, and his mouth twisted down with ire. "You do not seem like any lady, would I not be mistaken if I judge you an opportunistic impostor who has managed to deceive herself into Lady Jasnah's good graces? And I, Miss, am no leech-peddling barber surgeon." "E'en tha' job's got folks looking foward to yer comin', aye," said Shallan, "I'd think ye'd be better suited fer bailiff...or hangman. Ye would'na need a rope when yer breath would work faster." Kaladin's face reddened pleasantly, or so Shallan thought, and his body stiffened. He took a breath, then stepped closer to her, hands clenched in tense fists by his side. "Look, you-," he began. "Lady Shallan, the carriage awaits," called Countess Jasnah. The last trunk had been loaded onto the last cart; the first had already departed and was now a merry puff of golden dust on the road ahead. "Doctor, your credentials are in order. My uncle the prince recommends you warmly, I am most astonished to see." "Yes," Kaladin said, and after a pause, "thank you." He turned finally away from Shallan, and took the offered wallet from Jasnah's hands. He did not offer the wallet to Shallan; instead he tucked it into his coat's inner pocket. Lady Jasnah nodded; a footman bowed as he held open the carriage door painted with the tower-and-crown in white with gold details. The folding steps had already been pulled out. "A Kharbranth Academy scholar, I was naturally impressed to see that," said Jasnah, holding her skirts, as she ducked into the soft curtained dimness. "Will you be joining us for the ride to the house, Doctor?" Doctor Kaladin's eyes flicked sideways at Shallan. He had composed himself by now, and she observed that when he wasn't dis-tempered, he made a well-formed figure of a man - taller than most, with handsome breadth of shoulders, and graceful hands etched here and there with pale white scars over tanned fingers and knuckles. His face, though it lacked in beauty or elegance, had its own decisive character made more distinguished by darkly perceptive eyes. Shallan tore herself away and took the footman's guiding arm into the carriage. She did not look back. "I shall ride with the coachman, if it pleases you, Lady Jasnah," said Kaladin after a few moments. "I would not want the road dust from my journey here to soil your clothes nor the upholstery - my Duke had it cleaned for your arrival. He comes from The City to-night and expects Lady Shallan's informal presentation for this evening after supper." There were a few clinks and creaks as footmen found their places, and the horses shuffled impatiently in their traces, then the carriage started moving. Shallan twitched aside the pale blue lace curtains on the window and watched the warm green countryside trundle by, dotted and dashed with the occasional hayrick or wind-breaking treeline. She now felt a thrill; elation gently warmed in her chest: the world suddenly seemed to blossom around her when not very long ago she had imagined that it was like a box folding inwards and unstoppably inwards. She had dealt with that Doctor Kaladin, unpleasant as he was, with remarkable ease; no doubt this unfamiliar southern land would be filled with many such as he, but she could - yes she would - crest over such trifling difficulties and find herself comfortably settled as a lady Duchess that all of Anglethi society would look to. THE END. Now imagine a Purelake Interlude here. I skip that one every time I re-read. Author's Notes: The last time I wrote short stories or fanfiction was 4 or 5 years ago, so I'm a little rusty with my prose. For stylistic influences in this work, though I'm copying the writing style of classic period romances in general (not the modern paperback bodice-rippers), I would name Charlotte Bronte as the main inspiration to fit with the thread topic. Of course there's some Austen in there as well, mixed with more modern authors for the dialogue lines because I feel using old-style for that sounds too stiff and lacks emotional impact. A few hundred years ago, barbers and surgeons were the same thing. Physicians diagnosed illnesses, but it was barber-surgeons who did the actual surgery and amputations. Their razors could cut skin and give a close shave. Shallan is joking Kaladin on his unfashionable and messy hair. A bailiff in medieval times collected taxes as part of their job. I also referenced the scene in the hallway of Elhokar's palace when Shallan meets Kaladin for the second time in Words of Radiance. If you're wondering why I made Shallan Scottish, it's a reference to the post from a similar thread here, and since all those classic romances took place in England, I tried to make a weird fusion for humourous reasons.

What kind of line dancing do Elantrians do? Chasm line dancing. People are talking about where the King's Wit went. Suddenly, a voice from behind says "Hoid you talking about me." What do you call a stick that has been Soulcast? Trick question. It's still a stick.